WTK: does bipod affect accuracy?

gixxerjockey · October 31, 2008, 14:25

Just read this months article in SAR on AK accuracy. Amazing what difference it makes with muzzle break compared with the slanted break, and even more so with a fixed bayonet. What affects would adding a bipod on a light barrel FAL be? Any one done any tests with and w/o? Thx

brownknees · October 31, 2008, 14:46

It's funny that you asked this when you did.
I was just about to post a thread similar to WEG's "How accurate is your FAL" one on this exact subject.

I've found that it can be an aid, if used correctly.
I've also discovered that if you use it by just dropping the feet onto a benchtop & blazing away the exact opposite is true.

Either way your point of impact will be different from the one zeroed without the bipod.

**J. Armstrong** · October 31, 2008, 17:31

Geez, how can anyone with enough cajones to run a gixxer even be THINKING about using a weenie bipod

**gunplumber** · October 31, 2008, 18:07

I just read that article, and while it support some of my experiences, I think the group sizes were too small and perhaps the range (50 yards) too short. In all, the article simply didn't have enough data for any meaningful conclusions.

I really don't care what the best three round group is. I want to know hte extreme spread on 20 or 40 rounds. Thats more likely to reveal something statistically significant.

I have also seen an improvement in accuracy with something other than the slant brake. The slant brake may be effective in its designed function, but it appears to be a negative (albeit slight) in accuracy. But its a ttrade-off.

With handloads, a muzzle nut, and a red-dot, I've seen my off the shelf AKs shoot sub moa (three 5 shot strings) at 100.

I firmly believe the weakest link in the AK accuracy is the ammo - not only the quality of the surplus ammo, but the basic design of the bullet.

I think the author had a good idea, he just didn't take it far enough to be truly usefull.

**W.E.G.** · October 31, 2008, 18:45

Changes my zero by at least a foot at 100 yards on my STG.

powermad · November 01, 2008, 06:28

I don't remember who posted the suggestion of leaning the legs a bit but I tried it and was able to hit what I was aiming at.

YMMV

brownknees · November 01, 2008, 06:38

Shameless plug

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...hreadid=245934

October 31, 2008, 14:25	#1
gixxerjockey Registered FALaholic #: 12213 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 24	WTK: does bipod affect accuracy? Just read this months article in SAR on AK accuracy. Amazing what difference it makes with muzzle break compared with the slanted break, and even more so with a fixed bayonet. What affects would adding a bipod on a light barrel FAL be? Any one done any tests with and w/o? Thx

October 31, 2008, 17:31	#3
J. Armstrong Minister of Amusement Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 13629 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SE Pa Posts: 8,497	Geez, how can anyone with enough cajones to run a gixxer even be THINKING about using a weenie bipod __________________ "The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools" Herbert Spenser "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

October 31, 2008, 18:07	#4
gunplumber Arrogant Bastard Gold Contributor FALaholic #: 96 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Surprise, AZ Posts: 15,758	I just read that article, and while it support some of my experiences, I think the group sizes were too small and perhaps the range (50 yards) too short. In all, the article simply didn't have enough data for any meaningful conclusions. I really don't care what the best three round group is. I want to know hte extreme spread on 20 or 40 rounds. Thats more likely to reveal something statistically significant. I have also seen an improvement in accuracy with something other than the slant brake. The slant brake may be effective in its designed function, but it appears to be a negative (albeit slight) in accuracy. But its a ttrade-off. With handloads, a muzzle nut, and a red-dot, I've seen my off the shelf AKs shoot sub moa (three 5 shot strings) at 100. I firmly believe the weakest link in the AK accuracy is the ammo - not only the quality of the surplus ammo, but the basic design of the bullet. I think the author had a good idea, he just didn't take it far enough to be truly usefull. __________________ T. Mark Graham Master Gunsmith Arizona Response Systems, LLC

October 31, 2008, 18:45	#5
W.E.G. Administrator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 1211 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Virginia Posts: 31,054	Changes my zero by at least a foot at 100 yards on my STG. __________________ . . . Ask me about the Mason-Dixon FAL Collectors Association.

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October 31, 2008, 14:46	#2
brownknees Registered FALaholic #: 14917 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: mid atlantic Posts: 12,015	It's funny that you asked this when you did. I was just about to post a thread similar to WEG's "How accurate is your FAL" one on this exact subject. I've found that it can be an aid, if used correctly. I've also discovered that if you use it by just dropping the feet onto a benchtop & blazing away the exact opposite is true. Either way your point of impact will be different from the one zeroed without the bipod.

November 01, 2008, 06:28	#6
powermad Registered FALaholic #: 21150 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,216	I don't remember who posted the suggestion of leaning the legs a bit but I tried it and was able to hit what I was aiming at. YMMV

November 01, 2008, 06:38	#7
brownknees Registered FALaholic #: 14917 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: mid atlantic Posts: 12,015	Shameless plug http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...hreadid=245934