CMP bumps '06 up $38.00

Heat · May 13, 2008, 16:06

Just noticed CMP bumped the price of a case of the greek 30-06 from $200.00 per case of 768 rds to $238.00---+ of course the $38.00 shipping..why didnt they just bump the shipping--Im sure they paid the same price for the whole lot of this old ammo! seems kinda cheatie to me..that has to be the reason, the increased shipping costs
www.odcmp.com

DYNOMIKE · May 13, 2008, 16:55

They were in fact going to bump the shipping but decided to hold off for Now..

IMHO you can thank the DEALERS for the Price increase as I think Many were buying LARGE quantities for RE-SALE at HUGE Profits ..
CMP has not only raised prices BUT ALSO imposed LIMITS on the ammo..
Again only my opinion but I think this and the price increase was done to Curb the Big buyers and to STRETCH current supplies...

I and a Bud were able to get a Pretty good order in Prior to the Increase and said order was actually being processed last week..

Heat · May 13, 2008, 17:02

I'm selling off AK stuff to purchase this greek '06 before the price climbs again---I have see alot of the greek on Gunbroker at inflated prices...

littlehoot · May 13, 2008, 18:28

i've seen alot on the cmp site about this, all the above seems correct... stories of people buying a hundred cases at the time etc etc.... now i dunno about you... but who buys a hundred cases at the time, other than someone intenting on resale?

English Mike · May 13, 2008, 18:35

Quote:

Originally posted by littlehoot
...... but who buys a hundred cases at the time, other than someone intenting on resale?

Group buys by friends - I know of a couple of purchases of SA 7.62 that involved pallet loads with no resale involved.

DYNOMIKE · May 13, 2008, 21:14

Quote:

Originally posted by ENGLISH MIKE

Group buys by friends - I know of a couple of purchases of SA 7.62 that involved pallet loads with no resale involved.

I know of those as well Mike BUT the Big DIFF here are the Times and CURRENT supply and demand.. HUGE demand, SMALL supply and EVERYTHING increasing in price because of the present Economic conditions..

When Pallet group buys were happening AMMO (7.62 for example) was priced right and readily available.. In fact finding it was no challenge at all, one could Pick and choose a Vendor, his price and Buy what he wanted with a Couple Taps of the KEYS.....

The Greek 06 available now is pretty much the ONLY game in town for Good Mil-surp In Quantity and there are a TON of M1's out there..

People with the $$ (Dealers) planning ahead for the day this quantity is gone have been buying it in big orders looking to make a KILLING down the road..

With very little effort almost anyone can follow the steps required to buy from the CMP and although I suspect the Friends getting together and Buying up some ammo has certainly happened I would bet the DEALERS playing FUTURES are the real reason the CMP did what it did..

COMPLETE Speculation on my Part I readily admit but seeing what has happened to ammo prices here in the last couple years I say it's a SAFE Bet..

mj2evans · May 13, 2008, 23:35

I have no problem with the CMP imposing limits. Seeing jerks buy 5 M1s and try to resell rack grade guns for $800 is crap. Ammo is the same story. The idea of the CMP is to provide decent rifles and ammo to people that want to shoot .. not to be an additional supply source for jerk dealers.

TEMPLARKNIGHT · May 14, 2008, 08:45

I plan to go to the CMP North store with my Father-In-law this summer and purchase the limit on M1's and Greek surplus. I'm not re-selling; just buying for my 2 kids, 2 nephews and 3 neices. When they are old enough they'll get a great gift from their Father(Uncle). How can you be sure that they are for re-sale is my point. I, for one, wish I had been as far-sighted as English Mike's friends with SA ammo.

mj2evans · May 14, 2008, 09:17

I don't think too many guys can shell out for severl $500+ guns at once. I have seen way too many "vendors" at gun shows selling M1s at $800+ to think they magically located another source of M1s besides the CMP. Heck, I ordered 2 of the $100 22lr trainers(1 for me, 1 for kids), the FedEx guy told me he delivered 30 to one address - you think that guy is reselling? I just hate to see a few screw out the many that could actually enjoy a good rifle at a good price.

molonlabe texan · May 14, 2008, 14:50

Quote:

Originally posted by mj2evans
I have no problem with the CMP imposing limits. Seeing jerks buy 5 M1s and try to resell rack grade guns for $800 is crap. Ammo is the same story. The idea of the CMP is to provide decent rifles and ammo to people that want to shoot .. not to be an additional supply source for jerk dealers.

Harumph!

shortround · May 14, 2008, 16:44

From the latest CMP email:

LATEST CMP SALES NEWS:
This email is a broadcast email generated by an automated system. Please do not reply to this email address as you will not receive a response.

SHIPPING & HANDLING PRICE INCREASE DELAYED: In the CMP Sales Update of 4 April, 2008, we informed our customers that S&H charges would increase by 5% effective 1 June, 2008. Since FedEx has agreed to not raise prices for us at this time, we are delaying any S&H price increase for at least the rest of 2008.

AMMUNITION PURCHASE LIMIT: During the past 60 days we have experienced a ten-fold increase in orders for HXP .30-06 ammunition. This activity has significantly reduced our inventory. To ensure that the current inventory last another few years, effective immediately we are establishing an individual maximum purchase limit of ten cases of .30-06 HXP item # 407-Case and 10 cases of item # 415 per year.

NEW HXP .30-06 AMMUNITION PRICES: New prices are: Item #407-Case - $238 per case; item #407-Can - $60 per can; item #415 - $134 per case; item #415-CN $67 per can. New prices are effective 5 May, 2008. CMP will honor the old price for all orders already received, but not yet processed.

NEW HXP .30-06 AMMUNITION OPTIONS AVAILABLE BEGINNING 1 JUNE 2008.
Item # 415BCAN. 400 rds. 20 rds per carton, 20 cartons in .50 cal ammo can. $100.00. S&H $16.00 per can.
Item # 415DCAN. 192 rds in 8 rd clips and bandoleers in .30 cal ammo can. $54.00. S&H $9.60 per can.
Item # 415ABOX. 400 rds. 20 rds per carton, 20 cartons in cardboard box. $96.00. SH $16.00 per box.

DYNOMIKE · May 14, 2008, 18:31

Quote:

How can you be sure that they are for re-sale is my point.

Simple just look around... I posted right away when I saw SA B/PAKS hit $100.00 at the Show almost two years ago.. This will be the SAME as soon as the CMP runs out (actually prices at the shows are already climbing) I bet ya $100.00 dealers with LARGE supplies of the greek ammo will triple (OR more) the price they paid for it overnight if not sooner..

Not to be a Wise ASS but maybe your mixing up my point, or it's too confusing??

The Prob is NOT the Reg Joe buying ammo from the CMP for his Kids, Nephews, & Neices.. Re-sale is prolly NOT in Reg Joes plan at all..
Myself for example will NOT be selling ANY of my ammo and I buy what I can when I can because not only do I want to have ammo later when I have the time to shoot more but I also have two Sons that like to shoot so I am just planing ahead...

IMO the ISSUE is with Dealers buying LARGE quantities and taking advantage of the CMP Stores/Supply.. I have to believe that IF there was NOT a real concern that the Current supply will deplete RAPIDLY then Orrest would NOT have instituted the Limit on Purchases like he did..

Only a Few months ago in the Garand Collector (IIRC) I read that the Supply of Greek ammo would last for YEARS...
Guess what it WON'T, Greedy pepes with $$ will ruin this just luike they ruin everything else..

As posted this should be Proof enough:

Quote:

AMMUNITION PURCHASE LIMIT: During the past 60 days we have experienced a ten-fold increase in orders for HXP .30-06 ammunition. This activity has significantly reduced our inventory. To ensure that the current inventory last another few years, effective immediately we are establishing an individual maximum purchase limit of ten cases of .30-06 HXP item # 407-Case and 10 cases of item # 415 per year.

Heat · May 15, 2008, 17:43

Today I sold 2,000rd of AK ammo and a 39A Marlin so Im going to buy a couple cases of the '06 from CMP...Gunbroker has ALOT of this stuff..at much inflated prices..thievery!

ftierson · May 15, 2008, 18:19

Quote:

Originally posted by Heat
Just noticed CMP bumped the price of a case of the greek 30-06 from $200.00 per case of 768 rds to $238.00---+ of course the $38.00 shipping..why didnt they just bump the shipping--Im sure they paid the same price for the whole lot of this old ammo! seems kinda cheatie to me..that has to be the reason, the increased shipping costs
www.odcmp.com

Just out of curiosity, did you buy any of the Portuguese M963 7.62x51mm NATO ammo for $140 per case of 1000 rds delivered just two years ago?

If so, I'll buy all you got for $140/1000, and I'll even pay the increased shipping...

Just a point about current value...

Even at $238/768 rds and $38 shipping, the Greek HXP .30 CAL M2 Ball in Garand clips from CMP is still a great deal...

And you can still get 10 cases a year...

Until it's gone forever, of course.

There was no reason that CMP should continue to serve as a low cost supplier to several distributors.

In addition, I'm guessing that the people at CMP really wanted some relatively inexpensive ammo to sell people along with the next batch of Garands. Rifles sell better when you can afford to buy ammo for them...

Forrest

DYNOMIKE · May 15, 2008, 20:25

I agree Forrest and in the CONCEPT of the CMP (Civlian Marksmanship Program)
DEALERS shoud simply NOT BE ALLOWED to purchase this ammo, or any M-1's for that matter and IF I were KING ORREST that would be the LAW..

Dealers/Distributors completly sidestep the intention of the CMP and that's what pisses me off..

To bad it took so long for the PTB to realize the ammo situation and it seems they simply MISSED the same shit with the M-1's and prolly the Carbines too??

CMP was/is supposed to be for CIVILIANS Not dealers..

Heat · May 15, 2008, 22:28

Quote:

Originally posted by ftierson

Just out of curiosity, did you buy any of the Portuguese M963 7.62x51mm NATO ammo for $140 per case of 1000 rds delivered just two years ago?

If so, I'll buy all you got for $140/1000, and I'll even pay the increased shipping...

Just a point about current value...

Even at $238/768 rds and $38 shipping, the Greek HXP .30 CAL M2 Ball in Garand clips from CMP is still a great deal...

And you can still get 10 cases a year...

Until it's gone forever, of course.

There was no reason that CMP should continue to serve as a low cost supplier to several distributors.

In addition, I'm guessing that the people at CMP really wanted some relatively inexpensive ammo to sell people along with the next batch of Garands. Rifles sell better when you can afford to buy ammo for them...

Forrest

Now that I know the situation I understand..I have seen alot of this ammo on gunbroker highly inflated..goes against the whole concept of providing affordable ammo to the M1 owners..damn dealers!
I sold 2k rounds of 7,62x39 and mags today along with another rifle so I can load up on CMP '06---much better round anyways, that '06 is one hell of a hard hitting round, hats off to the guys that carried M1's and springfields thru the wars..big heavy rifle and heavy hard hittin' ammo!
Im thinking of getting some federal powershok '06 that I see advertised for $11 per box..anyone know if the 150 grain softnose feeds well thru a garand?

littlehoot · May 16, 2008, 01:04

+1 to that, i'm currently divesting most of my ammo money- i.e. stimulation check- into HXP and another garand from the cmp

M1FREDQ · May 16, 2008, 22:13

Unfortunately CMP didn't set limits initally with the 30.06.
When back in 2002 you bought the m1 Garand you "Borrowed" for the John Garand Match you could purchase up to 5000 rounds of 30.06 at 10 cents a round!!!
I am so glad my cousin twisted my arm to buy the limit.
CMP also had a limit on .30 Carbine 6 cases at $150.00 each back in 2001.
I don't understand how they blew it with this latest lot of 30.06. They should have had a 10 case limit from the beginning and we wouldn't have seen price increases.
The "resellers" are screwing us with CMP. The prices are climbing higher and higher. I'm glad I bought my M1's a few years back. Prices were fair and I got
Winchesters, International Harvesters, and HRA' at a good price.
The resellers will be out there messin things up for us for a long time, but if you pay their prices and buy from them the problem goes on.
Right now I'm not buy'in 308. at 50-60cents a round that's nuts. I have a bunch I bought a few years back I'll just use it sparingly and shoot more 30.06 which is cheaper and wait until folks get brains to stop buying and let inventories build up and then you'll see some decent prices return.
It's really in your hands. The war is consuming mass quantities of .308 so hold off for now use your current stocks, reload and wait for better prices!!!

molonlabe texan · May 20, 2008, 17:48

set limit at one case per order full shipping and handling charged.

That will tell you wtf is going on and who the idiots are in a hurry.

rdc01 · May 20, 2008, 18:49

Their prices did go up..stop your bitch'n and save your money. It will be gone soon. Order plenty and often or you will be sorry.

**Hebrew Battle Rifle** · May 20, 2008, 23:36

I worked up the numbers and the current CMP price for 30-06 is not that great of a deal. I can reload 30-06 using new production Hornady 150 gr FMJBTs for about .09c per round less than what I can get the Greek 30-06 delivered.

I wish that I had not waited so long to buy the Greek 06. Now it just doesn't make sense.

ftierson · May 21, 2008, 00:56

The current price of the CMP Greek is just under $0.36/round delivered to your door.

The current best price on the Hornady 150gr FMJBT bullet is about $0.17 each...

The primer is between $0.02 and $0.03/round...

That leaves about $0.16 for the cartridge case and the powder.

If you pay $20/lb for powder and are using about 45 grains/round, that's about $0.13/round for the powder.

So, if you already have the cartridge cases and don't need to buy them, you might be saving about $0.03/round.

Of course, with the CMP Greek ammo, you're also getting a Garand clip per every 8 rounds...

The numbers argue for buying the Greek to me...

Not that I'm arguing against reloading, of course. I do that too. After all, what're you going to do with all those empty Greek cases after you've shot the ammo?

Forrest

DYNOMIKE · May 21, 2008, 07:18

Hey Forrest, it even gets BETTER "IF" you already have a Good supply of Brass and En-blocks..

Buy the AMMO, shoot it, and then SELL the Brass and Clips..

Prolly get $.08-$.10 a Piece for the Brass and at least $.50 each for the Clips..

I too am one to reload but this is good ammo and the price seems reasonable if one os wanting to build a Stash for future use..

As for the CMP setting limits I think it is too little too late.. Like I stated earlier I'm betting Far too many dealers bought huge amounts and will shove it up the proverbial arse at a Later date (although I bet it;s already started in someplaces)....

The CONCEPT of the CMP was lost to greed and we will all suffer for it, knowone is really bitching abouit the Price just the idea that this stuff was allowed to be taken advantage of.. At leats that's MY Bitch..

I have two & a half more cases to pick up in the next day or so, bought at the Old price and glad I did it..

**captk** · May 21, 2008, 07:35

They are supposed to offer 400 rnds in 20 rnd boxes in a cardboard box for $96 + $16 shipping starting in June. That works out to $.28 per round. If you sell the empty brass for $.08 per case the ammo is $.20 per round.

Heat · May 22, 2008, 20:04

Went online this morning to order two cases of '06 from CMP and they had suspended sales of it...called up and found out that they were getting complaints that there was tracer ammo showing up in case quantities so they say that they wil be opening 1,000's of cases to inspect before they resume selling it in those quantities...so I purchased the 192 rd tins with enbloc clips...7 tins total 1344 rds with shipping for $482.65..35.9 per rd--Federal powershok '06 150 grain soft nose in my town runs .59 per round (and thats going up when they exhaust that supply bought at the old prices) so I consider the CMP a deal..

Tank Commander · June 01, 2008, 09:54

Talk about dealers buying this stuff and jacking the price up, I paid $100 for a 192 rnd can on Garand clip in Texas a few weeks ago. I don't have all of my CMP paperwork together yet. I wanted to try this stuff so, I bought it.

**olgier** · June 01, 2008, 10:51

you guys are lucky, i can't order from cmp.... i'm in the sticks, and there are no clubs around here.

Heat · June 01, 2008, 11:01

Quote:

Originally posted by olgier
you guys are lucky, i can't order from cmp.... i'm in the sticks, and there are no clubs around here.

That sucks, maybe you can work a deal with the nearest club...via mail, telephone..explain situation

**olgier** · June 01, 2008, 11:06

yeah i may have to try, but nearest is a 3 hr drive one way.

DYNOMIKE · June 01, 2008, 11:31

Quote:

Originally posted by olgier
you guys are lucky, i can't order from cmp.... i'm in the sticks, and there are no clubs around here.

Why ya need a Club???

Just join the GCA, fill out the CMP papers and Bingo...

http://www.thegca.org/images/GCAMemApp.pdf.pdf

http://www.odcmp.com/

**Hebrew Battle Rifle** · June 01, 2008, 12:08

Quote:

Originally posted by ENGLISH MIKE

Group buys by friends - I know of a couple of purchases of SA 7.62 that involved pallet loads with no resale involved.

That argument doesn't hold water in this instance. The purpose of a group buy is to reduce the cost of the purchase by 1. getting a quantity discount ( which you don't get from ODCMP) and 2. Getting a price break on the shipping (Which you don't get from ODCMP)

**olgier** · June 01, 2008, 14:38

thnx mike!

Rudolf · June 01, 2008, 18:53

Prices went up because of dealers. I see the same ammo at the fun shows at dealers and other people selling it for two times its price and sometimes 1/3 more.

Capitalism at it's best.

I think CMP should reign in and control how it's sold once again.

Bring the limits to maybe 2k a year or something, I don't know you make some magical number but all I know is that several dealers at the show have bought it and they are stupidly priced.

Heat · June 02, 2008, 00:35

Quote:

Originally posted by olgier
thnx mike!

No excuses now Olgier! Get all that paperwork together and get it notorized at your bank..

Para Driver · June 06, 2008, 18:14

Quote:

Originally posted by ENGLISH MIKE
Group buys by friends - I know of a couple of purchases of SA 7.62 that involved pallet loads with no resale involved.

we did just that in Dallas a couple of times..

May 13, 2008, 16:06	#1
Heat Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 31713 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: N Idaho Posts: 2,583	CMP bumps '06 up $38.00 Just noticed CMP bumped the price of a case of the greek 30-06 from $200.00 per case of 768 rds to $238.00---+ of course the $38.00 shipping..why didnt they just bump the shipping--Im sure they paid the same price for the whole lot of this old ammo! seems kinda cheatie to me..that has to be the reason, the increased shipping costs www.odcmp.com

May 13, 2008, 16:55	#2
DYNOMIKE Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 11982 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 13,983	They were in fact going to bump the shipping but decided to hold off for Now.. IMHO you can thank the DEALERS for the Price increase as I think Many were buying LARGE quantities for RE-SALE at HUGE Profits .. CMP has not only raised prices BUT ALSO imposed LIMITS on the ammo.. Again only my opinion but I think this and the price increase was done to Curb the Big buyers and to STRETCH current supplies... I and a Bud were able to get a Pretty good order in Prior to the Increase and said order was actually being processed last week.. __________________ "If your Gonna DIE, DIE Standing UP"!! The WOLVERINES.......

May 14, 2008, 08:45	#8
TEMPLARKNIGHT Registered FALaholic #: 12504 Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 238	I plan to go to the CMP North store with my Father-In-law this summer and purchase the limit on M1's and Greek surplus. I'm not re-selling; just buying for my 2 kids, 2 nephews and 3 neices. When they are old enough they'll get a great gift from their Father(Uncle). How can you be sure that they are for re-sale is my point. I, for one, wish I had been as far-sighted as English Mike's friends with SA ammo. __________________ The older I get the more I realize how lucky I am.... God save our Country; the Dems and Republicans sure won't.

May 14, 2008, 16:44	#11
shortround Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 1503 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Southeast, MI, USA Posts: 2,799	From the latest CMP email: LATEST CMP SALES NEWS: This email is a broadcast email generated by an automated system. Please do not reply to this email address as you will not receive a response. SHIPPING & HANDLING PRICE INCREASE DELAYED: In the CMP Sales Update of 4 April, 2008, we informed our customers that S&H charges would increase by 5% effective 1 June, 2008. Since FedEx has agreed to not raise prices for us at this time, we are delaying any S&H price increase for at least the rest of 2008. AMMUNITION PURCHASE LIMIT: During the past 60 days we have experienced a ten-fold increase in orders for HXP .30-06 ammunition. This activity has significantly reduced our inventory. To ensure that the current inventory last another few years, effective immediately we are establishing an individual maximum purchase limit of ten cases of .30-06 HXP item # 407-Case and 10 cases of item # 415 per year. NEW HXP .30-06 AMMUNITION PRICES: New prices are: Item #407-Case - $238 per case; item #407-Can - $60 per can; item #415 - $134 per case; item #415-CN $67 per can. New prices are effective 5 May, 2008. CMP will honor the old price for all orders already received, but not yet processed. NEW HXP .30-06 AMMUNITION OPTIONS AVAILABLE BEGINNING 1 JUNE 2008. Item # 415BCAN. 400 rds. 20 rds per carton, 20 cartons in .50 cal ammo can. $100.00. S&H $16.00 per can. Item # 415DCAN. 192 rds in 8 rd clips and bandoleers in .30 cal ammo can. $54.00. S&H $9.60 per can. Item # 415ABOX. 400 rds. 20 rds per carton, 20 cartons in cardboard box. $96.00. SH $16.00 per box. __________________ Nostalgia: It's just not what it used to be. I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure. To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target. Someone asked if I was a procrastinator and I told them I wasn't sure but I'd get back with them tomorrow.

May 15, 2008, 20:25	#15
DYNOMIKE Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 11982 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 13,983	I agree Forrest and in the CONCEPT of the CMP (Civlian Marksmanship Program) DEALERS shoud simply NOT BE ALLOWED to purchase this ammo, or any M-1's for that matter and IF I were KING ORREST that would be the LAW.. Dealers/Distributors completly sidestep the intention of the CMP and that's what pisses me off.. To bad it took so long for the PTB to realize the ammo situation and it seems they simply MISSED the same shit with the M-1's and prolly the Carbines too?? CMP was/is supposed to be for CIVILIANS Not dealers.. __________________ "If your Gonna DIE, DIE Standing UP"!! The WOLVERINES.......

May 13, 2008, 17:02	#3
Heat Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 31713 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: N Idaho Posts: 2,583	I'm selling off AK stuff to purchase this greek '06 before the price climbs again---I have see alot of the greek on Gunbroker at inflated prices...

May 13, 2008, 18:28	#4
littlehoot Registered FALaholic #: 11432 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: alabama, usa Posts: 1,058	i've seen alot on the cmp site about this, all the above seems correct... stories of people buying a hundred cases at the time etc etc.... now i dunno about you... but who buys a hundred cases at the time, other than someone intenting on resale? __________________ "They tell you of a laundry detergent that takes out bloodstains- I'm thinking that if you have clothes covered in bloodstains-maybe laundry isn't your biggest problem"

May 13, 2008, 23:35	#7
mj2evans Registered FALaholic #: 11922 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,084	I have no problem with the CMP imposing limits. Seeing jerks buy 5 M1s and try to resell rack grade guns for $800 is crap. Ammo is the same story. The idea of the CMP is to provide decent rifles and ammo to people that want to shoot .. not to be an additional supply source for jerk dealers.

May 14, 2008, 09:17	#9
mj2evans Registered FALaholic #: 11922 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,084	I don't think too many guys can shell out for severl $500+ guns at once. I have seen way too many "vendors" at gun shows selling M1s at $800+ to think they magically located another source of M1s besides the CMP. Heck, I ordered 2 of the $100 22lr trainers(1 for me, 1 for kids), the FedEx guy told me he delivered 30 to one address - you think that guy is reselling? I just hate to see a few screw out the many that could actually enjoy a good rifle at a good price.

May 15, 2008, 17:43	#13
Heat Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 31713 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: N Idaho Posts: 2,583	Today I sold 2,000rd of AK ammo and a 39A Marlin so Im going to buy a couple cases of the '06 from CMP...Gunbroker has ALOT of this stuff..at much inflated prices..thievery!

May 16, 2008, 01:04	#17
littlehoot Registered FALaholic #: 11432 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: alabama, usa Posts: 1,058	+1 to that, i'm currently divesting most of my ammo money- i.e. stimulation check- into HXP and another garand from the cmp __________________ "They tell you of a laundry detergent that takes out bloodstains- I'm thinking that if you have clothes covered in bloodstains-maybe laundry isn't your biggest problem"

May 16, 2008, 22:13	#18
M1FREDQ Registered FALaholic #: 10837 Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 70	CMP 30.06 Unfortunately CMP didn't set limits initally with the 30.06. When back in 2002 you bought the m1 Garand you "Borrowed" for the John Garand Match you could purchase up to 5000 rounds of 30.06 at 10 cents a round!!! I am so glad my cousin twisted my arm to buy the limit. CMP also had a limit on .30 Carbine 6 cases at $150.00 each back in 2001. I don't understand how they blew it with this latest lot of 30.06. They should have had a 10 case limit from the beginning and we wouldn't have seen price increases. The "resellers" are screwing us with CMP. The prices are climbing higher and higher. I'm glad I bought my M1's a few years back. Prices were fair and I got Winchesters, International Harvesters, and HRA' at a good price. The resellers will be out there messin things up for us for a long time, but if you pay their prices and buy from them the problem goes on. Right now I'm not buy'in 308. at 50-60cents a round that's nuts. I have a bunch I bought a few years back I'll just use it sparingly and shoot more 30.06 which is cheaper and wait until folks get brains to stop buying and let inventories build up and then you'll see some decent prices return. It's really in your hands. The war is consuming mass quantities of .308 so hold off for now use your current stocks, reload and wait for better prices!!!

May 20, 2008, 17:48	#19
molonlabe texan You asked for it to be Brought.. it was. FALaholic #: 31121 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: This ain't no party... Posts: 1,082	set limit at one case per order full shipping and handling charged. That will tell you wtf is going on and who the idiots are in a hurry.

May 20, 2008, 18:49	#20
rdc01 Registered FALaholic #: 8685 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NM Posts: 26	Re: CMP bumps '06 up $38.00 Their prices did go up..stop your bitch'n and save your money. It will be gone soon. Order plenty and often or you will be sorry.

May 20, 2008, 23:36	#21
Hebrew Battle Rifle Horses Ass Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 5777 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Arkansas Posts: 6,812	I worked up the numbers and the current CMP price for 30-06 is not that great of a deal. I can reload 30-06 using new production Hornady 150 gr FMJBTs for about .09c per round less than what I can get the Greek 30-06 delivered. I wish that I had not waited so long to buy the Greek 06. Now it just doesn't make sense. __________________ THANK YOU JESUS

May 21, 2008, 00:56	#22
ftierson Registered FALaholic #: 13827 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 11,048	The current price of the CMP Greek is just under $0.36/round delivered to your door. The current best price on the Hornady 150gr FMJBT bullet is about $0.17 each... The primer is between $0.02 and $0.03/round... That leaves about $0.16 for the cartridge case and the powder. If you pay $20/lb for powder and are using about 45 grains/round, that's about $0.13/round for the powder. So, if you already have the cartridge cases and don't need to buy them, you might be saving about $0.03/round. Of course, with the CMP Greek ammo, you're also getting a Garand clip per every 8 rounds... The numbers argue for buying the Greek to me... Not that I'm arguing against reloading, of course. I do that too. After all, what're you going to do with all those empty Greek cases after you've shot the ammo? Forrest

May 21, 2008, 07:18	#23
DYNOMIKE Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 11982 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 13,983	Hey Forrest, it even gets BETTER "IF" you already have a Good supply of Brass and En-blocks.. Buy the AMMO, shoot it, and then SELL the Brass and Clips.. Prolly get $.08-$.10 a Piece for the Brass and at least $.50 each for the Clips.. I too am one to reload but this is good ammo and the price seems reasonable if one os wanting to build a Stash for future use.. As for the CMP setting limits I think it is too little too late.. Like I stated earlier I'm betting Far too many dealers bought huge amounts and will shove it up the proverbial arse at a Later date (although I bet it;s already started in someplaces).... The CONCEPT of the CMP was lost to greed and we will all suffer for it, knowone is really bitching abouit the Price just the idea that this stuff was allowed to be taken advantage of.. At leats that's MY Bitch.. I have two & a half more cases to pick up in the next day or so, bought at the Old price and glad I did it.. __________________ "If your Gonna DIE, DIE Standing UP"!! The WOLVERINES.......

May 21, 2008, 07:35	#24
captk Veteran Member Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 4218 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,113	They are supposed to offer 400 rnds in 20 rnd boxes in a cardboard box for $96 + $16 shipping starting in June. That works out to $.28 per round. If you sell the empty brass for $.08 per case the ammo is $.20 per round.

May 22, 2008, 20:04	#25
Heat Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 31713 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: N Idaho Posts: 2,583	Went online this morning to order two cases of '06 from CMP and they had suspended sales of it...called up and found out that they were getting complaints that there was tracer ammo showing up in case quantities so they say that they wil be opening 1,000's of cases to inspect before they resume selling it in those quantities...so I purchased the 192 rd tins with enbloc clips...7 tins total 1344 rds with shipping for $482.65..35.9 per rd--Federal powershok '06 150 grain soft nose in my town runs .59 per round (and thats going up when they exhaust that supply bought at the old prices) so I consider the CMP a deal..

June 01, 2008, 09:54	#26
Tank Commander Registered FALaholic #: 12949 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 66	Talk about dealers buying this stuff and jacking the price up, I paid $100 for a 192 rnd can on Garand clip in Texas a few weeks ago. I don't have all of my CMP paperwork together yet. I wanted to try this stuff so, I bought it. __________________ "Gunner! Fire and adjust...CALIBER .50!!!"

June 01, 2008, 10:51	#27
olgier Curio & Relic Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 17951 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: maine Posts: 2,683	. you guys are lucky, i can't order from cmp.... i'm in the sticks, and there are no clubs around here.

June 01, 2008, 11:06	#29
olgier Curio & Relic Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 17951 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: maine Posts: 2,683	. yeah i may have to try, but nearest is a 3 hr drive one way.

June 01, 2008, 14:38	#32
olgier Curio & Relic Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 17951 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: maine Posts: 2,683	. thnx mike!

June 01, 2008, 18:53	#33
Rudolf Registered FALaholic #: 7 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Salem, ORegon, USA Posts: 408	adsf Prices went up because of dealers. I see the same ammo at the fun shows at dealers and other people selling it for two times its price and sometimes 1/3 more. Capitalism at it's best. I think CMP should reign in and control how it's sold once again. Bring the limits to maybe 2k a year or something, I don't know you make some magical number but all I know is that several dealers at the show have bought it and they are stupidly priced.

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