426matt

ER · April 13, 2008, 22:30

I posted an "I`ll take it" 29mins after he posted an AR upper for sale
marketplace post
this was on Saturday night.

I was also interested in some of his other stuff, and began negotiating(Saturday night) for the other items to see if he would cut a better deal. He wasn`t willing to make an acceptable deal for the rest of the stuff, in my opinion, so I decided to just buy the upper I had committed to earlier. When I told him I was just going to buy the upper, he sent me the following email.... "the upper got sold earlier today!" This was at 8PM EST Sunday night.

Beware of this newbie. Evidently "I`ll take it" doesn`t mean squat to him

I have the whole email string I can post if need be

rocko · April 15, 2008, 21:29

Unless I'm missing something, it seems like you were still in the midst of a negotiation outside of what was explicitly posted and in the meantime someone definitively closed the deal. Until two parties come to a definitive agreement (i.e., seller posts ad, prospective buyer tenders offer, seller accepts offer) the deal ain't done.

I've posted a decent amount of things for sale on various boards and on more than one occasion have had a person attempt to modify the deal after an "I'll take it" reply to a thread or otherwise have had it go nowhere. Posting a simple "I'll take it" publicly, but then trying to lump a bunch more stuff in at a discounted price (that the seller apparently wasn't interested in) seems to be sending that message, even if it wasn't your intent, to the point that I really wouldn't blame him if someone made a definitive offer to buy his goods under the exact terms he offered.

Given the information, as presented, I personally don't find much fault in the seller's actions here. Unless, of course, he acknowledged and accepted your offer with an "it's yours, send the money to XXX" or similar - perhaps the email thread you mentioned supports the argument more, however.

L/FN · April 17, 2008, 13:46

WHAT!!
ER's claim to purchase the AR upper with his I'll take it is a done deal.

The negotiations to purchase additional items is a separate matter.

I've had buyers buy a base item then have additional purchases added on. I've had them send 3-4 checks for add ons before the final package deal was ever shipped!!

Hope 426matt makes it right!
Larry

G2 · April 17, 2008, 18:33

Quote:

Originally posted by L/FN
WHAT!!
ER's claim to purchase the AR upper with his I'll take it is a done deal.

The negotiations to purchase additional items is a separate matter.

I've had buyers buy a base item then have additional purchases added on. I've had them send 3-4 checks for add ons before the final package deal was ever shipped!!

Hope 426matt makes it right!
Larry

++++1

quicksand · April 17, 2008, 19:16

He should have said it was posted on another board, however the guy on the other board did say "I'll take it" on April 12.

ER · April 17, 2008, 21:04

from my post in DB...

kinda strange that he and I emailed back and forth several times that night after I said I`d take it, and he never mentioned it had been sold until I backed out of buying all of his other junk s###. Musta pissed him off, huh?

I told him of the negative feedback I left here, and how I`d never seen anyone start with a -1 feedback rating

he(426matt) sent this in response:
you will still always be a moron & a day too late !!!!
Like I really car about what you or the "files" say or think!
Get a life...

Anyway, during several emails back and forth "negotiating" for his other stuff, he never mentioned the upper was spoken for.

`nuff said.

Silver Fox · May 05, 2008, 09:51

+10 more for ER.

SF-

KyARGuy · May 05, 2008, 14:04

Looks like he posted it on one of the "AR" boards at 10:49pm,
with the "I'll take it" coming at 10:59.

It was posted here at 10:00Pm (22:00) with the "I'll take it"
coming at 10:29 (22:29)

Looks like it was spoken for as sold, even before it was
posted for sale on the other board. If these times hold true,
you had the other guy beaten on the "I'll take it" by about 30 min.

I don't know what happened during the offers for the other items, but it seems he sold it out from under you.
I'll never deal with him after this.

KyARGuy

426matt · May 05, 2008, 18:49

OH no,I won't be able to sleep tonight!!!!!!

Just to keep the record straight it took the moron ER two days to get back to me finally tell me that he didn't want the rest of the stuff & he just wanted the upper & he still wasn't first in line or did I even agree to sell it to him or confirm that it was sold to him!!!

So please keep crying over something as stupid & pathetic as this because it's obvious that the people jumping on the wagon on this post don't know what the crap they're talking about & just plain simple have nothing else to bitch about!!!

Personally I don't care what the whiners or ER thinks!!!

BY the way I've baught & sold many items on the fal's & other gunboards & I've never had a problem with them or with me for the combined ten years he until this whining idiot came along, moderators if I'm out of line please ban me because if this is what this board is about or if this is the type of people that I have to deal with then I don't want to be part of it!!!!

**K.O.A.M.** · May 05, 2008, 18:54

Quote:

Originally posted by 426matt
if this is what this board is about or if this is the type of people that I have to deal with then I don't want to be part of it!!!!

Then get the fuq out. Plenty of people have dealt with ER with no problems. You, on the other hand, don't seem to understand how to run a sale on multiple boards.

FOAD, loser.

426matt · May 05, 2008, 19:12

another idiot heard from!!!

KyARGuy · May 05, 2008, 21:51

Quote:

Originally posted by K.O.A.M.

Then get the fuq out. Plenty of people have dealt with ER with no problems. You, on the other hand, don't seem to understand how to run a sale on multiple boards.

FOAD, loser.

BIG +1

KyARGuy

Chalk_2 · May 06, 2008, 04:42

Damn, 426natt. You sound like a genuine scrote...

**K.O.A.M.** · May 06, 2008, 06:15

Quote:

Originally posted by 426matt
another idiot heard from!!!

I thought you didn't want to be a part of this board. I know we don't want you to be a part of this board. Does your mom know you're on her computer?

426matt · May 06, 2008, 16:16

like I said before,I'll let you morons know when I even slightly care about what you rim jobs think!!!

English Mike · May 06, 2008, 16:52

Quote:

Originally posted by 426matt
like I said before,I'll let you morons know when I even slightly care about what you rim jobs think!!!

Looks to me like you've been doing just that.

**K.O.A.M.** · May 06, 2008, 21:17

Quote:

Originally posted by 426matt
like I said before,I'll let you morons know when I even slightly care about what you rim jobs think!!!

His mom's put the filter software on, so he can't use real dirty words.

FOAD, loser. Go fondle your Airsofts.

shlomo · May 07, 2008, 08:30

I'm guessin' that either his dad didn't have a belt around his waist, or his mom didn't have a dad around the house.

rocko · May 07, 2008, 18:26

OK, while in general I still believe until both parties come to a definitive and clear agreement the obligation to buy/sell doesn't exist, after the juvenile response from the seller, I officially retract my earlier statements even potentially in support of him.

Radio · May 09, 2008, 05:00

Another fugwit shows his ass.

I wouldn't even buy a douche from this bag. Ed was right all along.

--Radio

Varangian · May 09, 2008, 09:35

Quote:

Originally posted by Radio
I wouldn't even buy a douche from this bag.--Radio

Which implies you buy douches, just not from him.

I won't ask why you're a douch consumer...

**K.O.A.M.** · May 09, 2008, 12:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Varangian

Which implies you buy douches, just not from him.

I won't ask why you're a douch consumer...

Come to DB more often. You'll understand.

Para Driver · May 09, 2008, 13:52

Quote:

Originally posted by Radio
Another fugwit shows his ass.
--Radio

I think they're both fugwits, but what do I know (apparently quite a bit)..

April 13, 2008, 22:30	#1
ER FALaholic #: 155 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: CONOVER, NC Posts: 2,690	426matt I posted an "I`ll take it" 29mins after he posted an AR upper for sale marketplace post this was on Saturday night. I was also interested in some of his other stuff, and began negotiating(Saturday night) for the other items to see if he would cut a better deal. He wasn`t willing to make an acceptable deal for the rest of the stuff, in my opinion, so I decided to just buy the upper I had committed to earlier. When I told him I was just going to buy the upper, he sent me the following email.... "the upper got sold earlier today!" This was at 8PM EST Sunday night. Beware of this newbie. Evidently "I`ll take it" doesn`t mean squat to him I have the whole email string I can post if need be __________________ "A lot of what is taken for engineering fact is nothing more than somebody`s opinion when you dig into it far enough." Henry "Smokey" Yunick, 1923-2001 "I don`t care where I`m going, I`m just here to ride the train" Some bluegrass song I heard on the radio

April 17, 2008, 21:04	#6
ER FALaholic #: 155 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: CONOVER, NC Posts: 2,690	from my post in DB... kinda strange that he and I emailed back and forth several times that night after I said I`d take it, and he never mentioned it had been sold until I backed out of buying all of his other junk s###. Musta pissed him off, huh? I told him of the negative feedback I left here, and how I`d never seen anyone start with a -1 feedback rating he(426matt) sent this in response: you will still always be a moron & a day too late !!!! Like I really car about what you or the "files" say or think! Get a life... Anyway, during several emails back and forth "negotiating" for his other stuff, he never mentioned the upper was spoken for. `nuff said. __________________ "A lot of what is taken for engineering fact is nothing more than somebody`s opinion when you dig into it far enough." Henry "Smokey" Yunick, 1923-2001 "I don`t care where I`m going, I`m just here to ride the train" Some bluegrass song I heard on the radio

May 05, 2008, 09:51	#7
Silver Fox Registered FALaholic #: 7481 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Puyallup, WA Posts: 556	+10 more for ER. SF- __________________ http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2819.png When Russia practiced censorship, we called it "censorship". Here we call it political correctness.

May 09, 2008, 05:00	#20
Radio Registered FALaholic #: 263 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Eastern Washington State Posts: 9,868	Another fugwit shows his ass. I wouldn't even buy a douche from this bag. Ed was right all along. --Radio __________________ Train Like You Fight: Second PLace is NOT an Option. --E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II* "You seem to fantasize about me a lot. Maybe you should tell your boyfriend? He could dress up like me or something." --*K.O.A.M.*, November 9th, 2009 "You're better off hoping she don't miss, it's quicker that way." --ce, December 15, 2009

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April 15, 2008, 21:29	#2
rocko Registered FALaholic #: 7145 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: SE PA Posts: 532	Unless I'm missing something, it seems like you were still in the midst of a negotiation outside of what was explicitly posted and in the meantime someone definitively closed the deal. Until two parties come to a definitive agreement (i.e., seller posts ad, prospective buyer tenders offer, seller accepts offer) the deal ain't done. I've posted a decent amount of things for sale on various boards and on more than one occasion have had a person attempt to modify the deal after an "I'll take it" reply to a thread or otherwise have had it go nowhere. Posting a simple "I'll take it" publicly, but then trying to lump a bunch more stuff in at a discounted price (that the seller apparently wasn't interested in) seems to be sending that message, even if it wasn't your intent, to the point that I really wouldn't blame him if someone made a definitive offer to buy his goods under the exact terms he offered. Given the information, as presented, I personally don't find much fault in the seller's actions here. Unless, of course, he acknowledged and accepted your offer with an "it's yours, send the money to XXX" or similar - perhaps the email thread you mentioned supports the argument more, however.

April 17, 2008, 13:46	#3
L/FN Registered FALaholic #: 139 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Kansas. Just Dust in the Wind Posts: 3,336	WHAT!! ER's claim to purchase the AR upper with his I'll take it is a done deal. The negotiations to purchase additional items is a separate matter. I've had buyers buy a base item then have additional purchases added on. I've had them send 3-4 checks for add ons before the final package deal was ever shipped!! Hope 426matt makes it right! Larry

April 17, 2008, 19:16	#5
quicksand Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 13329 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 649	He should have said it was posted on another board, however the guy on the other board did say "I'll take it" on April 12.

May 05, 2008, 14:04	#8
KyARGuy Registered FALaholic #: 17909 Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 18	Looks like he posted it on one of the "AR" boards at 10:49pm, with the "I'll take it" coming at 10:59. It was posted here at 10:00Pm (22:00) with the "I'll take it" coming at 10:29 (22:29) Looks like it was spoken for as sold, even before it was posted for sale on the other board. If these times hold true, you had the other guy beaten on the "I'll take it" by about 30 min. I don't know what happened during the offers for the other items, but it seems he sold it out from under you. I'll never deal with him after this. KyARGuy

May 05, 2008, 18:49	#9
426matt Registered FALaholic #: 10998 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: PA Posts: 138	OH no,I won't be able to sleep tonight!!!!!! Just to keep the record straight it took the moron ER two days to get back to me finally tell me that he didn't want the rest of the stuff & he just wanted the upper & he still wasn't first in line or did I even agree to sell it to him or confirm that it was sold to him!!! So please keep crying over something as stupid & pathetic as this because it's obvious that the people jumping on the wagon on this post don't know what the crap they're talking about & just plain simple have nothing else to bitch about!!! Personally I don't care what the whiners or ER thinks!!! BY the way I've baught & sold many items on the fal's & other gunboards & I've never had a problem with them or with me for the combined ten years he until this whining idiot came along, moderators if I'm out of line please ban me because if this is what this board is about or if this is the type of people that I have to deal with then I don't want to be part of it!!!!

May 05, 2008, 19:12	#11
426matt Registered FALaholic #: 10998 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: PA Posts: 138	another idiot heard from!!!

May 06, 2008, 04:42	#13
Chalk_2 Registered FALaholic #: 13760 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 876	Damn, 426natt. You sound like a genuine scrote...

May 06, 2008, 16:16	#15
426matt Registered FALaholic #: 10998 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: PA Posts: 138	like I said before,I'll let you morons know when I even slightly care about what you rim jobs think!!!

May 07, 2008, 08:30	#18
shlomo Registered FALaholic #: 12779 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: elsewhere Posts: 12,007	I'm guessin' that either his dad didn't have a belt around his waist, or his mom didn't have a dad around the house.

May 07, 2008, 18:26	#19
rocko Registered FALaholic #: 7145 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: SE PA Posts: 532	OK, while in general I still believe until both parties come to a definitive and clear agreement the obligation to buy/sell doesn't exist, after the juvenile response from the seller, I officially retract my earlier statements even potentially in support of him.