Israeli headstamp marking

TerryB · June 30, 2001, 01:07

Have purchased some 7.62X51 ammo and there are several headstamps I cannot identify. They are:

Looks like a "K" and either a "n" or "u", dates range from 69 to 76, no NATO id mark.

Also,"A", Nato id mark, date "74", and at bottom is "7.62".

Any help identifing these headstamps is appreciated.

[ August 10, 2001: Message edited by: EMDII ]

**EMDII** · June 30, 2001, 08:20

K- Kynoch (ICI Limited), England, aka Imperial Metal Industries: Witton, Birmingham, England. The Stevens book indicates they ceased production in 1970, however. Kynoch used a couple of suffixes, and all may not be known.

A- PMP (although I'm unaware they EVER supplied a NATO contract)
A- Netherlands
A- Early Portuguese

cadillac · June 30, 2001, 21:52

Ted

Might the K and the N or U be Hebrew? I have some Israeli mags that are marked with what looks like a K over a U or N laying on its side... ???

[ June 30, 2001: Message edited by: cadillac ]

**EMDII** · June 30, 2001, 22:15

The only Israeli I've sen had the IMI headstamp, but this sounds plausible.

Is the 'K' not perpendicular to the primer?

The odd 'K' is a Hagganah symbol used by the IDF. You see it on the Izzies, inside an oval usually.

Anyone speak Hebrew?

cadillac · June 30, 2001, 22:22

Ted

I just read post by Porky: "Southern Ammo"

His US and Izzy mixed bulk ammo also has some "K" and "U" or "N" headstamps... maybe real IDF milsurp?

**EMDII** · June 30, 2001, 22:24

Sounds right to me! I haven't seen any IDF surplus, so I'm unfamiliar. And working w/o a pic, I 'assumed' somewthing!

heyhey!

Thanks, cadillac!

[ June 30, 2001: Message edited by: EMDII ]

cadillac · June 30, 2001, 23:13

So then, that would be Kosher ammo?

Racer · July 01, 2001, 11:31

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TerryB:
[QB]Have purchased some 7.62X51 ammo and there are several headstamps I cannot identify.

Try << http://members.home.net/cstein0/uscenter.htm >> Curtis has a pretty extensive list of headstamps at this site.

Carl

hksigwaltherXglockXSA58 · July 01, 2001, 13:13

TerryB,

Do the 'letters' look ike this? :

Isreali.

**EMDII** · July 01, 2001, 16:35

Quote:

Originally posted by hksigwaltherXglockXSA58:
TerryB, Do the 'letters' look ike this? :

Israeli.

That's what I'm trying to describe. Thanks for the pic!

TerryB · July 01, 2001, 20:50

Yes hksigwaltherXglockXSA58 and EMDII, that is the headstamp except the "K" is laying on it's back. Also, the people at Southern Ammo said the ammo they sell comes from Israel. Almost half the 308 rounds I received Friday from Southern Ammo had the "TZ" headstamp.

Thanks for the help. I want to know where the ammo comes from that I shoot.

TerryB · July 04, 2001, 12:44

Using a bullet puller, I "opened" one of the "Kn" rounds. Guess what? It is boxer primed. Thought others might want to know this. Southern Ammo is Number One with me.

June 30, 2001, 01:07	#1
TerryB Registered FALaholic #: 1478 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: South Carolina Posts: 117	Israeli headstamp marking Have purchased some 7.62X51 ammo and there are several headstamps I cannot identify. They are: Looks like a "K" and either a "n" or "u", dates range from 69 to 76, no NATO id mark. Also,"A", Nato id mark, date "74", and at bottom is "7.62". Any help identifing these headstamps is appreciated. [ August 10, 2001: Message edited by: EMDII ]

June 30, 2001, 08:20	#2
EMDII Evil Moderator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 6 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 13,971	K- Kynoch (ICI Limited), England, aka Imperial Metal Industries: Witton, Birmingham, England. The Stevens book indicates they ceased production in 1970, however. Kynoch used a couple of suffixes, and all may not be known. A- PMP (although I'm unaware they EVER supplied a NATO contract) A- Netherlands A- Early Portuguese __________________ "The Spartans do not enquire how many enemy there are. The SPartans merely enquire WHERE they are." E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II 1*

June 30, 2001, 21:52	#3
cadillac Registered FALaholic #: 3235 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lincoln County, MT Posts: 3,495	Ted Might the K and the N or U be Hebrew? I have some Israeli mags that are marked with what looks like a K over a U or N laying on its side... ??? [ June 30, 2001: Message edited by: cadillac ] __________________ United We Stand - Falaholics One and All

June 30, 2001, 22:15	#4
EMDII Evil Moderator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 6 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 13,971	The only Israeli I've sen had the IMI headstamp, but this sounds plausible. Is the 'K' not perpendicular to the primer? The odd 'K' is a Hagganah symbol used by the IDF. You see it on the Izzies, inside an oval usually. Anyone speak Hebrew? __________________ "The Spartans do not enquire how many enemy there are. The SPartans merely enquire WHERE they are." E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II 1*

June 30, 2001, 22:22	#5
cadillac Registered FALaholic #: 3235 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lincoln County, MT Posts: 3,495	Ted I just read post by Porky: "Southern Ammo" His US and Izzy mixed bulk ammo also has some "K" and "U" or "N" headstamps... maybe real IDF milsurp? __________________ United We Stand - Falaholics One and All

June 30, 2001, 22:24	#6
EMDII Evil Moderator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 6 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 13,971	Sounds right to me! I haven't seen any IDF surplus, so I'm unfamiliar. And working w/o a pic, I 'assumed' somewthing! heyhey! Thanks, cadillac! [ June 30, 2001: Message edited by: EMDII ] __________________ "The Spartans do not enquire how many enemy there are. The SPartans merely enquire WHERE they are." E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II 1*

June 30, 2001, 23:13	#7
cadillac Registered FALaholic #: 3235 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lincoln County, MT Posts: 3,495	So then, that would be Kosher ammo? __________________ United We Stand - Falaholics One and All

July 01, 2001, 11:31	#8
Racer Registered FALaholic #: 2717 Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 71	[QUOTE]Originally posted by TerryB: [QB]Have purchased some 7.62X51 ammo and there are several headstamps I cannot identify. Try << http://members.home.net/cstein0/uscenter.htm >> Curtis has a pretty extensive list of headstamps at this site. Carl

July 01, 2001, 13:13	#9
hksigwaltherXglockXSA58 Registered FALaholic #: 1168 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: OH Posts: 50	TerryB, Do the 'letters' look ike this? : Isreali. __________________ - Ron V.

July 01, 2001, 20:50	#11
TerryB Registered FALaholic #: 1478 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: South Carolina Posts: 117	Yes hksigwaltherXglockXSA58 and EMDII, that is the headstamp except the "K" is laying on it's back. Also, the people at Southern Ammo said the ammo they sell comes from Israel. Almost half the 308 rounds I received Friday from Southern Ammo had the "TZ" headstamp. Thanks for the help. I want to know where the ammo comes from that I shoot.

July 04, 2001, 12:44	#12
TerryB Registered FALaholic #: 1478 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: South Carolina Posts: 117	Using a bullet puller, I "opened" one of the "Kn" rounds. Guess what? It is boxer primed. Thought others might want to know this. Southern Ammo is Number One with me.

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