AB 2062 will need permit to buy ammo in California;

Meat-Hook · March 31, 2008, 17:08

*If this has already been posted, please ignore*
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I spotted this on another site and thought Id pass
it along for your review.
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California Assembly to Consider Severe
Restrictions on Ammunition Sales!
Stand Up and Make Your Voice Heard Today!

Next Wednesday, March 25, the Assembly Public Safety Committee will consider legislation that would require gun owners to obtain a “permit-to-purchase” before buying handgun ammunition.

Introduced by State Assembly Member Kevin De Leon (D-45), Assembly Bill 2062 puts ammunition sales in the crosshairs. AB2062 would require that law-abiding gun owners obtain a permit to buy handgun ammunition and would impose severe restrictions on the private transfers of handgun ammunition. Applicants for a “permit-to-purchase” would be required to submit to a background check, pay a $35 fee, and wait as long as 30 days to receive the permit.

Under AB2062, it would be unlawful to privately transfer more than 50 rounds of ammunition per month, even between family and friends, unless you are registered as a “handgun ammunition vendor” in the Department of Justice’s database. Ammunition retailers would have to be licensed and store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to purchasers. The bill would also require vendors to keep a record of the transaction including the ammunition buyer’s name, driver’s license, the quantity, caliber and type of ammunition purchased, and right thumbprint, which would be submitted to the Department of Justice or the number of his handgun ammunition purchase permit. Vendors would be required to contact the purchase permit database, to verify the validity of a permit before completing a sale. All ammunition sales in the State of California would be subject to a $3 per transaction tax. Lastly, mail order ammunition sales would be prohibited. Any violator of AB2062 would be subject to civil fines.

Please contact the members of the Assembly Public Safety Committee AND your State Assembly Member TODAY and respectfully urge them to oppose this onerous attack on our Second Amendment freedoms. Contact information for the committee members can be found below. Please click here to find your State Assembly Member.

State Assembly Member Jose Solorio (D-69), Chair
(916) 319-2069
Assemblymember.solorio@assembly.ca.gov
-----------------
State Assembly Member Greg Aghazarian, (R-26), Vice Chair
(916) 319-2026
Assemblymember.aghazarian@assembly.ca.gov
-----------------
State Assembly Member Joel Anderson (R-77)
(916) 319-2077
Assemblymember.Anderson@assembly.ca.gov
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State Assembly Member Hector De La Torre (D-50)
(916) 319-2050
Assemblymember.DeLaTorre@assembly.ca.gov
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State Assembly Member Fiona Ma (D-12)
(916) 319-2012
Assemblymember.Ma@assembly.ca.gov
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State Assembly Member Anthony J. Portantino (D-44)
(916) 319-2044
Assemblymember.Portantino@assembly.ca.gov
_________________

Thorgrimm_the_Vain · March 31, 2008, 17:27

Looks like the political wing of the Reconquista wants to disarm the few remaining anglos and africans.

icwells · March 31, 2008, 18:05

Why can't the PRK just slip into the ocean?

J308 · March 31, 2008, 18:54

Shit Thor I hope you aren't right, but things may get real ugly down there.

renaissance_warrior · March 31, 2008, 19:26

Actually, that's not a new idea. Stalin was the first. You could get ammo, then had to return the casings to the police or you were arrested. Charming similarity, eh?

**2barearms** · March 31, 2008, 20:08

Quote:

Originally posted by renaissance_warrior
Actually, that's not a new idea. Stalin was the first. You could get ammo, then had to return the casings to the police or you were arrested. Charming similarity, eh?

I'm Dislexic so I would keep the casings and give em the bullets.

renaissance_warrior · March 31, 2008, 21:03

Slightly warmed, whilst in flight I would venture to say?

Meat-Hook · March 31, 2008, 21:32

"This will mean the aisles will be even more crowded at the Phoenix gun shows."
******

Thorgrimm_the_Vain · April 01, 2008, 00:49

Quote:

Originally posted by Meat-Hook
"This will mean the aisles will be even more crowded at the Phoenix gun shows."
******

Then the authorities will spend even more manpower on checkpoints and stops to intercept ammo buyers. The same manpower and resources that they cannot spend on intercepting illegals, illegal drugs, and gangs.

Tsm002 · April 01, 2008, 07:17

Wonder what they'll classify as "handgun" ammunition- if they do they whole "used in pistols" things, the t/c series just screwed everyone in the PRK over.

Para Driver · April 01, 2008, 08:43

Kalifornia will drop their fruit fly inspection points, and institute ammo checkpoints along the roads..

Bangz · April 01, 2008, 13:51

Californians need to start litigating (challenging) the constitutionality of each and every restriction. Odds are that they will be at least 40% successful....but as they say......"You have to be in it to win it!" time to pool resources and get in the game.

brumalis · April 01, 2008, 18:07

It amazes me the idiocy of these lawmakers - you have illegal immigrants and illegal drugs flooding through the borders and yet you want one more item smuggled in to be used by gang members, drug dealers, and other criminals. So much of the police force is being taken away reinforcing all the banned items and other socialist regulations that law enforcement and tax base is stretched so thin as to endanger the unarmed population. Socialist idiots...

1911guy · April 04, 2008, 09:43

And I sometimes, in certain circles, get slammed for being anti-government. When will California replace the state flag with the hammer and cycle?

Meat-Hook · May 19, 2008, 23:12

"Californians need to start litigating (challenging) the constitutionality of each and every restriction. Odds are that they will be at least 40% successful....but as they say......"You have to be in it to win it!" time to pool resources and get in the game."
********

True. As if they are never challenged then we will always be screwed.

And as we all know, the Left wing never gives up. No matter how many
anti-gun laws have been passed, its never enuf. The only time they will
stop is when all gun ownership has been eradicated. But even then, they
will migrate to banning knives, toy guns, bats, ect. They never stop.

Just ask the United Kingdom.

Also, your dealing with the PRC and that type of jury pool, should we challenge
them in court. if successful, then it will be appealed and go before an "activist"
judge. And overturned.

On the federal level: The 9th Circus Court of Appeals??? Oh Lord. They are so
deranged that 2/3 of all their cases that get appealed to the US Supreme Court
get overturned.

On the State level: You have activist judges like the one that just ruled in favor
of gay marraige. That despite fact the people of the State of California soundly
defeated gay marriage when they pased proposition 22.

Just remember that when we all walk out of the voting booth and they give us
one of those cute little stickers to wear thats says; "I voted".

yeah,..we showed them

Multi-million dollar lobbyists and "activist judges" will decide all our fates and damn
our votes.

The only thing the vote is these days is an opinion poll. End of story. Highly paid
lobbyists who bribe politicians, NON-governmental organizations who want to be
our government ((NGOs)), and activist judges,...their mission is to do anything
BUT, what we all voted for. Or else none of them would exist.

besides,...I see little to no lawsuits nor court challenges coming from gun owners.
Awfully quiet out there. The cricketts are chirping while are gun rights slip down
the storm drain.

March 31, 2008, 17:08	#1
Meat-Hook Registered FALaholic #: 1769 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: San Francisco-Bay Area, PRC. Posts: 155	AB 2062 will need permit to buy ammo in California; If this has already been posted, please ignore ------------ I spotted this on another site and thought Id pass it along for your review. ~~~~~~~~~~ California Assembly to Consider Severe Restrictions on Ammunition Sales! Stand Up and Make Your Voice Heard Today! Next Wednesday, March 25, the Assembly Public Safety Committee will consider legislation that would require gun owners to obtain a “permit-to-purchase” before buying handgun ammunition. Introduced by State Assembly Member Kevin De Leon (D-45), Assembly Bill 2062 puts ammunition sales in the crosshairs. AB2062 would require that law-abiding gun owners obtain a permit to buy handgun ammunition and would impose severe restrictions on the private transfers of handgun ammunition. Applicants for a “permit-to-purchase” would be required to submit to a background check, pay a $35 fee, and wait as long as 30 days to receive the permit. Under AB2062, it would be unlawful to privately transfer more than 50 rounds of ammunition per month, even between family and friends, unless you are registered as a “handgun ammunition vendor” in the Department of Justice’s database. Ammunition retailers would have to be licensed and store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to purchasers. The bill would also require vendors to keep a record of the transaction including the ammunition buyer’s name, driver’s license, the quantity, caliber and type of ammunition purchased, and right thumbprint, which would be submitted to the Department of Justice or the number of his handgun ammunition purchase permit. Vendors would be required to contact the purchase permit database, to verify the validity of a permit before completing a sale. All ammunition sales in the State of California would be subject to a $3 per transaction tax. Lastly, mail order ammunition sales would be prohibited. Any violator of AB2062 would be subject to civil fines. Please contact the members of the Assembly Public Safety Committee AND your State Assembly Member TODAY and respectfully urge them to oppose this onerous attack on our Second Amendment freedoms. Contact information for the committee members can be found below. Please click here to find your State Assembly Member. State Assembly Member Jose Solorio (D-69), Chair (916) 319-2069 Assemblymember.solorio@assembly.ca.gov ----------------- State Assembly Member Greg Aghazarian, (R-26), Vice Chair (916) 319-2026 Assemblymember.aghazarian@assembly.ca.gov ----------------- State Assembly Member Joel Anderson (R-77) (916) 319-2077 Assemblymember.Anderson@assembly.ca.gov ----------------- State Assembly Member Hector De La Torre (D-50) (916) 319-2050 Assemblymember.DeLaTorre@assembly.ca.gov ------------------ State Assembly Member Fiona Ma (D-12) (916) 319-2012 Assemblymember.Ma@assembly.ca.gov ------------------ State Assembly Member Anthony J. Portantino (D-44) (916) 319-2044 Assemblymember.Portantino@assembly.ca.gov _________________

March 31, 2008, 17:27	#2
Thorgrimm_the_Vain Registered FALaholic #: 27021 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: MO Posts: 1,717	Looks like the political wing of the Reconquista wants to disarm the few remaining anglos and africans. __________________ ("They are all gone astray, they are no longer clean, all together they have become filthy, there is none that does good, no, not one."Psalm 14:2-3) Those were words spoken of a people who forgot their fathers ways and became lost in the excesses available to them, they listened to and followed the missionaries of their destruction. I reckon they became moderate. - Martin35 "Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever. You might dodge successfully for a while, even for years, but sooner or later they were bound to get you."-George Orwell, 1984 The single most destructive act brought upon us by a traitorous legislature. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigra...ty_Act_of_1965

March 31, 2008, 18:05	#3
icwells Registered FALaholic #: 31956 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Livonia and/or Ann Arbor, Michigan Posts: 473	Why can't the PRK just slip into the ocean? __________________ Slippery breath inside banjo melted. Runny smoky. Wake Up Time For Freedom...

March 31, 2008, 19:26	#5
renaissance_warrior Registered FALaholic #: 13689 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 8,558	Actually, that's not a new idea. Stalin was the first. You could get ammo, then had to return the casings to the police or you were arrested. Charming similarity, eh? __________________ "In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot." - Mark Twain “The government turns every contingency into an excuse for enhancing power in itself.” - John Adams "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed, lest Rome becomes bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." ~ Cicero , 55 BC ~

March 31, 2008, 21:03	#7
renaissance_warrior Registered FALaholic #: 13689 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 8,558	Slightly warmed, whilst in flight I would venture to say? __________________ "In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot." - Mark Twain “The government turns every contingency into an excuse for enhancing power in itself.” - John Adams "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed, lest Rome becomes bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." ~ Cicero , 55 BC ~

March 31, 2008, 18:54	#4
J308 Registered FALaholic #: 7448 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 883	Shit Thor I hope you aren't right, but things may get real ugly down there.

March 31, 2008, 21:32	#8
Meat-Hook Registered FALaholic #: 1769 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: San Francisco-Bay Area, PRC. Posts: 155	"This will mean the aisles will be even more crowded at the Phoenix gun shows." ******

April 01, 2008, 07:17	#10
Tsm002 Registered FALaholic #: 21733 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Huntsville, TX Posts: 1,896	Wonder what they'll classify as "handgun" ammunition- if they do they whole "used in pistols" things, the t/c series just screwed everyone in the PRK over. __________________ LOL WUT

April 01, 2008, 08:43	#11
Para Driver Registered FALaholic #: 6350 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 6,297	Kalifornia will drop their fruit fly inspection points, and institute ammo checkpoints along the roads..

April 01, 2008, 13:51	#12
Bangz Registered FALaholic #: 11591 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 124	Californians need to start litigating (challenging) the constitutionality of each and every restriction. Odds are that they will be at least 40% successful....but as they say......"You have to be in it to win it!" time to pool resources and get in the game.

April 01, 2008, 18:07	#13
brumalis Registered FALaholic #: 12359 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Magnolia, AR Posts: 331	It amazes me the idiocy of these lawmakers - you have illegal immigrants and illegal drugs flooding through the borders and yet you want one more item smuggled in to be used by gang members, drug dealers, and other criminals. So much of the police force is being taken away reinforcing all the banned items and other socialist regulations that law enforcement and tax base is stretched so thin as to endanger the unarmed population. Socialist idiots...

April 04, 2008, 09:43	#14
1911guy Registered FALaholic #: 25934 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,016	And I sometimes, in certain circles, get slammed for being anti-government. When will California replace the state flag with the hammer and cycle?

May 19, 2008, 23:12	#15
Meat-Hook Registered FALaholic #: 1769 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: San Francisco-Bay Area, PRC. Posts: 155	"Californians need to start litigating (challenging) the constitutionality of each and every restriction. Odds are that they will be at least 40% successful....but as they say......"You have to be in it to win it!" time to pool resources and get in the game." ******** True. As if they are never challenged then we will always be screwed. And as we all know, the Left wing never gives up. No matter how many anti-gun laws have been passed, its never enuf. The only time they will stop is when all gun ownership has been eradicated. But even then, they will migrate to banning knives, toy guns, bats, ect. They never stop. Just ask the United Kingdom. Also, your dealing with the PRC and that type of jury pool, should we challenge them in court. if successful, then it will be appealed and go before an "activist" judge. And overturned. On the federal level: The 9th Circus Court of Appeals??? Oh Lord. They are so deranged that 2/3 of all their cases that get appealed to the US Supreme Court get overturned. On the State level: You have activist judges like the one that just ruled in favor of gay marraige. That despite fact the people of the State of California soundly defeated gay marriage when they pased proposition 22. Just remember that when we all walk out of the voting booth and they give us one of those cute little stickers to wear thats says; "I voted". yeah,..we showed them Multi-million dollar lobbyists and "activist judges" will decide all our fates and damn our votes. The only thing the vote is these days is an opinion poll. End of story. Highly paid lobbyists who bribe politicians, NON-governmental organizations who want to be our government ((NGOs)), and activist judges,...their mission is to do anything BUT, what we all voted for. Or else none of them would exist. besides,...I see little to no lawsuits nor court challenges coming from gun owners. Awfully quiet out there. The cricketts are chirping while are gun rights slip down the storm drain. Last edited by Meat-Hook; May 19, 2008 at 23:47.

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