Rate MilSurp (and other)

CWSTG58 · May 11, 2001, 14:16

I don't want to have to shoot Match ammunition most of the time, only if i really want to do some target work and only if I put a scope on it. For regular work, I'd like to use something much cheaper, probably surplus ammunition. But, I want it to perform, and be something I could really use if in a bind, not plinking ammo that's lucky to shoot an 8 inch group at 100 yds..

How is

British Surplus
South African Surplus
Portugese Surplus

and anything other ones out there. I'd like to be able to buy 500 rounds for around 100 bucks. Any suggestions?

Have a good one

[ August 10, 2001: Message edited by: EMDII ]

50 cal · May 11, 2001, 14:51

I'm a firm believer in the Brit Radway Green. Out of my L1A1 it will give a consistant 1.5" at 100m. At 300m I hit a 5 gallon bucket all day long. Works for me.

With the SA stuff I get shifting zero, I don't know what the deal is, probably just my particular rifle.

Never tried the Port. stuff.

pete47 · May 12, 2001, 22:12

I've had good luck with the British Radway Green,it functions well in my STG-58 and L1A1(CAI gun), groups well (1-2 inches at 100 yrds) very reliable. SA was hotter but accurate. Haven't tried the Port.
Hertenberg was very good in the STG, more
accurate that the RG or SA. Hard to find right now, maybe AIM has some left.
Good luck, hope this helps.

Aifwikir · May 13, 2001, 00:15

Dan's Sporting Goods has some Singapore surplus for $130.00 a 1000.
http://www.falparts.com/

This is also excellent stuff.

Aif

[ May 13, 2001: Message edited by: EMDII ]

Kevin K · May 14, 2001, 07:33

I'v had good results with Radway and Malasian.

Ratlord · May 14, 2001, 07:54

The Portugese is excellent FALfood. Also tops on my list is Hirtenberg. Radaway Green tends to be kinda dirty but there is a good supply of that stuff and it isn't bad ammo at all. Stay away from the Chilean stuff, it's evil!

**Blackmore** · May 27, 2001, 05:44

Sportman's Guide 20% offer ended 05/20/01 although someone said they managed to sneak it by them after that.

I got 1000 rounds of SA for about $140 shipped across 4 zones from TWS, Inc.

hillyellow · May 27, 2001, 16:16

Radway green de-linked gave us no mis-feeds or accuracy problems in 250 rounds the last 2 weeks out of a FN FAL (L1A1 parts gun) or M1A1 match rifle or even Savage or Ruger lightweight scout rifles...If I could get another 2000 rounds I would...even though it is surplus due to it's age

stargazer · May 27, 2001, 17:32

Radway Green functions fine but is a bit dirtier than others. Portuguese is fine stuff, super accurate and clean. Has anyone personally tried the 81' South Afican?

Charmedlyfe · May 27, 2001, 18:16

NO, but I've shot some '99 PMP. Very good stuff, fairly accurate, and HOT. VERY hot (but not dangerously so). Lots of fun to shoot. No, not commercial ammo.

ROCK-n-GLOCK · May 27, 2001, 23:32

Malaysian, Hirt then FNM

I have had good luck with all three. I shoot the PMP in .223 and it is good stuff

F4GIB · May 28, 2001, 09:54

Loose 70's Israeli/US 7.62x51 for $114 per 1000. Don't know quality. See http://www.southernammo.com/prod02.htm

Charmedlyfe · May 28, 2001, 14:02

OOOPPs, my error. It was DENEL.

Azalin · May 28, 2001, 18:08

The Portugese FNM ammo produces great groups out of my DSA STG. The ammo is also fairly clean and functions reliably in my rifle. All of these reason combined with price and I dont think you can beat it. Malaysian and British Radway seem to function very well. S&B ammo is the onlt one I would avoid, this is mostly because it seems under powered compaired to the other stated ammos'.

The Azalin

May 11, 2001, 14:16	#1
CWSTG58 Registered FALaholic #: 3144 Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 35	Rate MilSurp (and other) I don't want to have to shoot Match ammunition most of the time, only if i really want to do some target work and only if I put a scope on it. For regular work, I'd like to use something much cheaper, probably surplus ammunition. But, I want it to perform, and be something I could really use if in a bind, not plinking ammo that's lucky to shoot an 8 inch group at 100 yds.. How is British Surplus South African Surplus Portugese Surplus and anything other ones out there. I'd like to be able to buy 500 rounds for around 100 bucks. Any suggestions? Have a good one [ August 10, 2001: Message edited by: EMDII ]

May 11, 2001, 14:51	#2
50 cal Registered FALaholic #: 135 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Knoxville, Tn Posts: 515	I'm a firm believer in the Brit Radway Green. Out of my L1A1 it will give a consistant 1.5" at 100m. At 300m I hit a 5 gallon bucket all day long. Works for me. With the SA stuff I get shifting zero, I don't know what the deal is, probably just my particular rifle. Never tried the Port. stuff. __________________ 50 BMG, when it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed right now!

May 12, 2001, 22:12	#3
pete47 Registered FALaholic #: 41 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: appleton,WI,USA Posts: 34	I've had good luck with the British Radway Green,it functions well in my STG-58 and L1A1(CAI gun), groups well (1-2 inches at 100 yrds) very reliable. SA was hotter but accurate. Haven't tried the Port. Hertenberg was very good in the STG, more accurate that the RG or SA. Hard to find right now, maybe AIM has some left. Good luck, hope this helps. __________________ Does history record ANY case in which the majority was right???

May 13, 2001, 00:15	#4
Aifwikir Registered FALaholic #: 2187 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Magazine, Arkansas Posts: 3,061	Dan's Sporting Goods has some Singapore surplus for $130.00 a 1000. http://www.falparts.com/ This is also excellent stuff. Aif [ May 13, 2001: Message edited by: EMDII ] __________________ Cosmo the Lene,,, Smeller of old grease! http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...ber3575new.jpg

May 14, 2001, 07:54	#6
Ratlord Registered FALaholic #: 1418 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 458	The Portugese is excellent FALfood. Also tops on my list is Hirtenberg. Radaway Green tends to be kinda dirty but there is a good supply of that stuff and it isn't bad ammo at all. Stay away from the Chilean stuff, it's evil! __________________ "Literalism must be avoided because there is no surer way to misread any document than to read it literally." -New Jersey Supreme Court Mark San Diego mark@markstoddard.com

May 14, 2001, 07:33	#5
Kevin K Registered FALaholic #: 16 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Peoples Republic of Maryland Posts: 63	I'v had good results with Radway and Malasian.

May 27, 2001, 05:44	#7
Blackmore Curio & Relic Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 2690 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: West Central New Hampshire Posts: 4,383	Sportman's Guide 20% offer ended 05/20/01 although someone said they managed to sneak it by them after that. I got 1000 rounds of SA for about $140 shipped across 4 zones from TWS, Inc. __________________ A professional is someone who can do his best work when he doesn't feel like it.

May 27, 2001, 16:16	#8
hillyellow Registered FALaholic #: 3304 Join Date: May 2001 Location: LV Posts: 1	Radway green de-linked gave us no mis-feeds or accuracy problems in 250 rounds the last 2 weeks out of a FN FAL (L1A1 parts gun) or M1A1 match rifle or even Savage or Ruger lightweight scout rifles...If I could get another 2000 rounds I would...even though it is surplus due to it's age

May 27, 2001, 17:32	#9
stargazer Registered FALaholic #: 3088 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 1,135	Radway Green functions fine but is a bit dirtier than others. Portuguese is fine stuff, super accurate and clean. Has anyone personally tried the 81' South Afican? __________________ FAL Web Page M70 Web Page PSL Web Page

May 27, 2001, 18:16	#10
Charmedlyfe Registered FALaholic #: 1585 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: SC Posts: 421	NO, but I've shot some '99 PMP. Very good stuff, fairly accurate, and HOT. VERY hot (but not dangerously so). Lots of fun to shoot. No, not commercial ammo. __________________ Mad, bad, and dangerous to know...

May 27, 2001, 23:32	#11
ROCK-n-GLOCK Registered FALaholic #: 2679 Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 139	Malaysian, Hirt then FNM I have had good luck with all three. I shoot the PMP in .223 and it is good stuff

May 28, 2001, 09:54	#12
F4GIB Registered FALaholic #: 1749 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Midwest, USA Posts: 580	Loose 70's Israeli/US 7.62x51 for $114 per 1000. Don't know quality. See http://www.southernammo.com/prod02.htm

May 28, 2001, 14:02	#13
Charmedlyfe Registered FALaholic #: 1585 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: SC Posts: 421	OOOPPs, my error. It was DENEL. __________________ Mad, bad, and dangerous to know...

May 28, 2001, 18:08	#14
Azalin Registered FALaholic #: 2392 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Georgia Posts: 41	The Portugese FNM ammo produces great groups out of my DSA STG. The ammo is also fairly clean and functions reliably in my rifle. All of these reason combined with price and I dont think you can beat it. Malaysian and British Radway seem to function very well. S&B ammo is the onlt one I would avoid, this is mostly because it seems under powered compaired to the other stated ammos'. The Azalin

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