5.7mmx28mm

Confed Pirate · January 24, 2002, 02:57

I was surfing i got into a site and this was a new round develop by who i dont,,,,,But its in a pistol with a 20rd mag effective range is 200 meters,,,,,i was wondering if anybody has more info on this rd

**fastback65** · January 24, 2002, 04:30

You wouldn't be referring to the .224BOZ would you. It has a muzzle velocity of around 2000fps from a 6.5" barrel modified Delta Elite.
224 BOZ

[ January 24, 2002: Message edited by: fastback65 ]

hockeyfan_019 · January 24, 2002, 06:55

As far as I have seen, it's a round designed for AP capabilities, and then to "tumble", thereby limiting penetration into soft targets, ie US CIVIES. Apparently they are prohibited for sale to non-LEOs, and all "five-seven" accessories are too. Another case where the bad-ass alphabet guys can have anything they want, and we law-abiding citizens get stuck with the C&R stuff...

**1gewehr** · January 24, 2002, 07:30

5.7x28mm is the 'new' FN cartridge for the P90 SMG and the FiveseveN pistol. The pistol takes a 20 round mag.
It is flat shooting out to 150m, and will penetrate most body armor and PASGT helmets out to that range.

Out to 80m or so, it has pretty devastating wound ballistics. Past that, it's wound creation ability rapidly deteriorates. Past 300m, it resembles a .22lr.
1gewehr

hockeyfan_019 · January 24, 2002, 11:55

1gewehr, You mean type 3/4 vests, or just flak stuff? Rifle plates? At least I know my 7.62x51 and 8x57 shoot much flatter PAST 150m, and they'll keep hitting hard for a long range too...

Confed Pirate · January 24, 2002, 12:35

go to www.arizonagunrunners.com go to FN site and you will be amazed next gerneration ammo

Charmedlyfe · January 24, 2002, 15:34

Before I quit, my old department had equipped the SRT with P90s and was waiting on the pistol. The concept is interesting, but I'm not up to trusting a 31gr projectile just yet.

The guns are VERY accurate (especially the eval pistols we had). No recoil, so you could stack hits all day long. The bullet is aluminum-cored with a hardened penetrator. It will cut through body armour at close range, but PASGT tended to survive at around the 150M mark. Muzzle energy is about the same as a 9mm, and the 'tumbling effect' is about as reliable as a good hollowpoint opening. Nasty in Gel, but didn't make the block 'jump' like my 45acp. I admit my bias, but have to admit that it seems to be a pretty decent round. Just don't think it is a 'magic' bullet...it ain't what the hype makes it, but it does work.

January 24, 2002, 02:57	#1
Confed Pirate Registered FALaholic #: 5255 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 407	5.7mmx28mm I was surfing i got into a site and this was a new round develop by who i dont,,,,,But its in a pistol with a 20rd mag effective range is 200 meters,,,,,i was wondering if anybody has more info on this rd __________________ We're not killing Terrorist, its called Retirement.

January 24, 2002, 04:30	#2
fastback65 Last of the Full GrownMen Contributor FALaholic #: 78 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Florence, MS USA Posts: 1,304	You wouldn't be referring to the .224BOZ would you. It has a muzzle velocity of around 2000fps from a 6.5" barrel modified Delta Elite. 224 BOZ [ January 24, 2002: Message edited by: fastback65 ] __________________ panem et circenses http://k5fv.com survival and preparedness

January 24, 2002, 06:55	#3
hockeyfan_019 Registered FALaholic #: 4776 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SE, MI Posts: 200	As far as I have seen, it's a round designed for AP capabilities, and then to "tumble", thereby limiting penetration into soft targets, ie US CIVIES. Apparently they are prohibited for sale to non-LEOs, and all "five-seven" accessories are too. Another case where the bad-ass alphabet guys can have anything they want, and we law-abiding citizens get stuck with the C&R stuff... __________________ TGH "A right to jury trial is granted to criminal defendants in order to prevent oppression by the Government." -Ducan vs Louisiana 391 US, 149 1968 "The JURY has an unreviewable and unreversible power . . . to acquit in disregard of the instructions on the law given by the trial judge . . ." -U.S. vs. Dougherty, 473 F 2nd 1113, 1139 (1972)

January 24, 2002, 07:30	#4
1gewehr Curio & Relic Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 2004 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: TN Posts: 2,155	5.7x28mm is the 'new' FN cartridge for the P90 SMG and the FiveseveN pistol. The pistol takes a 20 round mag. It is flat shooting out to 150m, and will penetrate most body armor and PASGT helmets out to that range. Out to 80m or so, it has pretty devastating wound ballistics. Past that, it's wound creation ability rapidly deteriorates. Past 300m, it resembles a .22lr. 1gewehr __________________ "Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors... and miss!"

January 24, 2002, 11:55	#5
hockeyfan_019 Registered FALaholic #: 4776 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SE, MI Posts: 200	1gewehr, You mean type 3/4 vests, or just flak stuff? Rifle plates? At least I know my 7.62x51 and 8x57 shoot much flatter PAST 150m, and they'll keep hitting hard for a long range too... __________________ TGH "A right to jury trial is granted to criminal defendants in order to prevent oppression by the Government." -Ducan vs Louisiana 391 US, 149 1968 "The JURY has an unreviewable and unreversible power . . . to acquit in disregard of the instructions on the law given by the trial judge . . ." -U.S. vs. Dougherty, 473 F 2nd 1113, 1139 (1972)

January 24, 2002, 12:35	#6
Confed Pirate Registered FALaholic #: 5255 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 407	go to www.arizonagunrunners.com go to FN site and you will be amazed next gerneration ammo __________________ We're not killing Terrorist, its called Retirement.

January 24, 2002, 15:34	#7
Charmedlyfe Registered FALaholic #: 1585 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: SC Posts: 437	Before I quit, my old department had equipped the SRT with P90s and was waiting on the pistol. The concept is interesting, but I'm not up to trusting a 31gr projectile just yet. The guns are VERY accurate (especially the eval pistols we had). No recoil, so you could stack hits all day long. The bullet is aluminum-cored with a hardened penetrator. It will cut through body armour at close range, but PASGT tended to survive at around the 150M mark. Muzzle energy is about the same as a 9mm, and the 'tumbling effect' is about as reliable as a good hollowpoint opening. Nasty in Gel, but didn't make the block 'jump' like my 45acp. I admit my bias, but have to admit that it seems to be a pretty decent round. Just don't think it is a 'magic' bullet...it ain't what the hype makes it, but it does work. __________________ Mad, bad, and dangerous to know...

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