50.41 Belgian HB on gunbroker

tracyballard · December 17, 2007, 23:49

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=87229930

this price seems pretty fair....

**metalreptile** · December 18, 2007, 04:30

Damn I wash I had the cash for that one. That's less than I paid for my 50.42 a while back! And mine didn't have the box!

JohnnyReb · December 18, 2007, 09:48

When shooting the heavy barrel fal's off the bi-pod does it throw off the elevation like it does with the standard barrel fal's?

lew · December 18, 2007, 13:04

I wouldn't see why it wouldn't shift the point of impact.

**metalreptile** · December 18, 2007, 14:21

With the heavy barrel FAL, using the bipod is about the ONLY way to shoot it! They are so heavy, I never shoot offhand with mine.
For that I use my 50.00
So I guess I'm of no help whatsoever.....lol

**SKTRGNLDR** · December 18, 2007, 14:23

Since the FAL isn't being offered in MARKETPLACE...I'm going to slam it. If you'll look at the pictures, it's OBVIOUS it's well used and NOT "like new in the box" as specified.

This Gunbroker ad is typical of the ignorant sellers that haven't a clue about the condition of what they're selling. God forbid they should refer to the NRA's Published Standards!

The good news is that so far, no one's bought it...I suppose it because of the rediculous price and questionable condition.

CAVEAT EMPTOR!

**metalreptile** · December 18, 2007, 14:46

Rediculous price for the actual condition maybe.....but in line for one that is actually "as new". I didn't look at it that close earlier, but it does appear a bit on the "rode hard" side......

**J. Armstrong** · December 18, 2007, 15:05

Where have I been - are nice FALOs really bringing that much now( in appropriate condition ) ???

Makes me feel better about paying top $$ for my Gs. My almost forgotten HBs are the blue chips !!

C2A1 · December 18, 2007, 15:55

I agree, It is kind of sad that these have climbed in price to the extent you loose money if you shoot them. It is kind of like muclecars, you can't enjoy them like they were intended to be enjoyed. That 50.41 looks like and costs like (in relative terms) a well used Hemi/LS6/CJ car. I remember..........

**Lee Carpentieri** · December 18, 2007, 15:57

Yeah that HB Fal on GB isn't in that kind of condition for that price range, But its a dealer that thinks he/she has something special. GSI imported. Theirs been nicer ones in the last 60 days on GB for less money.

**moses** · December 18, 2007, 17:24

Yeah, I'd say that one is in the high 2's like maybe $2800 NOT WORTH WHAT HE'S ASKING imho

I want one but want the Wood butt stock I guess a 50.42?
I will not buy one unless it has a type 1 or most preferably a type 2 receiver
I just can't see paying that much for a type 3

**SKTRGNLDR** · December 18, 2007, 18:06

HERE'S THE BIBLE GUYS...IF YOU DON'T USE IT YOU'RE UNSCRUPULOUS; IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT YOU OUGHT NOT OWN FIREARMS!

NRA MODERN GUN CONDITION STANDARDS:

NEW: Not previously sold at retail, in same condition as current factory production.

PERFECT: In New condition in every respect.

EXCELLENT: New condition, used but little, no noticeable marring of wood or metal, bluing perfect, (except at muzzle or sharp edges).

VERY GOOD: In perfect working condition, no appreciable wear on working surfaces, no corrosion or pitting, only minor surface dents or scratches.

GOOD: In safe working condition, minor wear on working surfaces, no broken parts, no corrosion or pitting that will interfere with proper functioning.

FAIR: In safe working condition but well worn, perhaps requiring replacement of minor parts or adjustments which should be indicated in advertisement, no rust, but may have corrosion pits which do not render article unsafe or inoperable.

**J. Armstrong** · December 18, 2007, 20:18

308s - that's what kit guns and FrankenFals are for - gettin' dirty and havin' fun with

Havong a couple of the aforementioned is what frees your conscience for having a rifle or two just for holding and worshipping

Pretty FMAP - as you know, while mine coesn't still have its' "papers", it is otherwise a twin and is also a"Queen". Sometimes just the pleasure of ownership is enough.............

**Abominog** · December 18, 2007, 20:21

Quote:

Originally posted by J. Armstrong
308s - that's what kit guns and FrankenFals are for - gettin' dirty and havin' fun with Havong a couple of the aforementioned is what frees your conscience for having a rifle or two just for holding and worshipping

Just about exactly what I was going to suggest.

That's why we have Imbel-on-Imbel kits to build (and shoot and shoot and abuse).

308s · December 18, 2007, 20:21

Yes J.Armstrong I agree.

In my case "Abominog" its going to be Imbel kit on a Century..

DarkEarth · December 19, 2007, 10:03

Rather go for a pair of DSA or Dunk rifles and a case of ammo for that kind of money.

That HB is nice though.

For what its worth, my STG will rapid fire a 300 yard 15" gong and hit 7 out of 10 at around 2 shots a second. Off the bipod. I've only tried it once so far.

But if I was going to scope it, and really stretch it out say 6 to 800 yds id consider maybe a freefloat handguard with the bipod screwed to that. Medium contour comes to mind

December 17, 2007, 23:49	#1
tracyballard Registered FALaholic #: 22431 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amarillo Posts: 3,410	50.41 Belgian HB on gunbroker http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=87229930 this price seems pretty fair....

December 18, 2007, 04:30	#2
metalreptile Resident Graybeard Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 26243 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,059	Damn I wash I had the cash for that one. That's less than I paid for my 50.42 a while back! And mine didn't have the box! __________________ What you possess in the world will be found, at the day of your death, to belong to someone else. What you are, will be yours forever.

December 18, 2007, 09:48	#3
JohnnyReb Registered FALaholic #: 12093 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NC & NV Posts: 3,433	When shooting the heavy barrel fal's off the bi-pod does it throw off the elevation like it does with the standard barrel fal's? __________________ One Bank to rule them all, one Bank to find them, one Bank to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.

December 18, 2007, 14:21	#5
metalreptile Resident Graybeard Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 26243 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,059	With the heavy barrel FAL, using the bipod is about the ONLY way to shoot it! They are so heavy, I never shoot offhand with mine. For that I use my 50.00 So I guess I'm of no help whatsoever.....lol __________________ What you possess in the world will be found, at the day of your death, to belong to someone else. What you are, will be yours forever.

December 18, 2007, 14:23	#6
SKTRGNLDR DISGRUNTLED! Contributor FALaholic #: 1272 Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 468	Since the FAL isn't being offered in MARKETPLACE...I'm going to slam it. If you'll look at the pictures, it's OBVIOUS it's well used and NOT "like new in the box" as specified. This Gunbroker ad is typical of the ignorant sellers that haven't a clue about the condition of what they're selling. God forbid they should refer to the NRA's Published Standards! The good news is that so far, no one's bought it...I suppose it because of the rediculous price and questionable condition. CAVEAT EMPTOR! __________________ "Life is like a sewer...what you get out of it depends upon what you put into it"

December 18, 2007, 13:04	#4
lew Registered FALaholic #: 16727 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: somewhere Posts: 5,759	I wouldn't see why it wouldn't shift the point of impact.

December 18, 2007, 14:46	#7
metalreptile Resident Graybeard Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 26243 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,059	Rediculous price for the actual condition maybe.....but in line for one that is actually "as new". I didn't look at it that close earlier, but it does appear a bit on the "rode hard" side...... __________________ What you possess in the world will be found, at the day of your death, to belong to someone else. What you are, will be yours forever.

December 18, 2007, 15:05	#8
J. Armstrong Minister of Amusement Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 13629 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SE Pa Posts: 8,503	Where have I been - are nice FALOs really bringing that much now( in appropriate condition ) ??? Makes me feel better about paying top $$ for my Gs. My almost forgotten HBs are the blue chips !! __________________ "The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools" Herbert Spenser "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

December 18, 2007, 15:55	#9
C2A1 Registered FALaholic #: 15514 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,012	I agree, It is kind of sad that these have climbed in price to the extent you loose money if you shoot them. It is kind of like muclecars, you can't enjoy them like they were intended to be enjoyed. That 50.41 looks like and costs like (in relative terms) a well used Hemi/LS6/CJ car. I remember..........

December 18, 2007, 15:57	#10
Lee Carpentieri Curio & Relic Gold Contributor FALaholic #: 4936 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: N/A Posts: 4,182	HB Fal on GB Yeah that HB Fal on GB isn't in that kind of condition for that price range, But its a dealer that thinks he/she has something special. GSI imported. Theirs been nicer ones in the last 60 days on GB for less money. __________________ Live life to the fullest, Because in the end there's only death and taxs.

December 18, 2007, 17:24	#11
moses One of the original 400 Contributor FALaholic #: 392 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: charlotte nc usa Posts: 5,474	Yeah, I'd say that one is in the high 2's like maybe $2800 NOT WORTH WHAT HE'S ASKING imho I want one but want the Wood butt stock I guess a 50.42? I will not buy one unless it has a type 1 or most preferably a type 2 receiver I just can't see paying that much for a type 3

December 18, 2007, 18:06	#12
SKTRGNLDR DISGRUNTLED! Contributor FALaholic #: 1272 Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 468	HERE'S THE BIBLE GUYS...IF YOU DON'T USE IT YOU'RE UNSCRUPULOUS; IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT YOU OUGHT NOT OWN FIREARMS! NRA MODERN GUN CONDITION STANDARDS: NEW: Not previously sold at retail, in same condition as current factory production. PERFECT: In New condition in every respect. EXCELLENT: New condition, used but little, no noticeable marring of wood or metal, bluing perfect, (except at muzzle or sharp edges). VERY GOOD: In perfect working condition, no appreciable wear on working surfaces, no corrosion or pitting, only minor surface dents or scratches. GOOD: In safe working condition, minor wear on working surfaces, no broken parts, no corrosion or pitting that will interfere with proper functioning. FAIR: In safe working condition but well worn, perhaps requiring replacement of minor parts or adjustments which should be indicated in advertisement, no rust, but may have corrosion pits which do not render article unsafe or inoperable. __________________ "Life is like a sewer...what you get out of it depends upon what you put into it"

December 18, 2007, 20:18	#13
J. Armstrong Minister of Amusement Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 13629 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SE Pa Posts: 8,503	308s - that's what kit guns and FrankenFals are for - gettin' dirty and havin' fun with Havong a couple of the aforementioned is what frees your conscience for having a rifle or two just for holding and worshipping Pretty FMAP - as you know, while mine coesn't still have its' "papers", it is otherwise a twin and is also a"Queen". Sometimes just the pleasure of ownership is enough............. __________________ "The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools" Herbert Spenser "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

December 18, 2007, 20:21	#15
308s Registered FALaholic #: 20400 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 149	Yes J.Armstrong I agree. In my case "Abominog" its going to be Imbel kit on a Century.. Last edited by 308s; December 18, 2007 at 20:52.

December 19, 2007, 10:03	#16
DarkEarth Registered FALaholic #: 20509 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florida/Central Posts: 920	Rather go for a pair of DSA or Dunk rifles and a case of ammo for that kind of money. That HB is nice though. For what its worth, my STG will rapid fire a 300 yard 15" gong and hit 7 out of 10 at around 2 shots a second. Off the bipod. I've only tried it once so far. But if I was going to scope it, and really stretch it out say 6 to 800 yds id consider maybe a freefloat handguard with the bipod screwed to that. Medium contour comes to mind

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