Bargain Bin Mousegun Range test

davedude · November 23, 2007, 11:26

I bought one of the CMMG $550 AR rifles. My first mousegun. Recieved a DPMS lower/20" HBAR flatop upper. Not a mark or blem anywhere until I looked under the handgaurd and found a bump on the side of the barrel that looks like someone touched it with a stick welder just enough to leave a splat/bump of metal there. It is parked with the rest of the barrel. Can't see it so no biga deal.

There was no rear sight, I put on a ARMS 40L BUIS that flips up when needed and has a couple selectable notches for different ranges. Not sure what ranges they are set for but I will find out. Nice if you can focus on them, which I cannot(old eyes). However The main aperature works good for me.

Had a Aimpoint comp m2 waiting for such a platform. A freind of mine had given it to me awhile back.

I got out yesterday to garland public shooting range, got me a spot at lane 32 which a 50yrd and 100yrd combo lane.
Slight intermittant wind, 40 or 50F I think, grey sky.

Went through 80 rounds of Monarch 55gr soft point which I had on hand just for going to this range as they don't allow FMJ.
Did not have any failures to feed, function or fire. Nice!

I noticed the recoil spring movement under my cheek for a little bit then I got used to it and discounted it from there, no problem.

Trigger creep is a problem but breaks better than I expected. Not bad for bargain bin rifle I am thinking.

Shot with the irons first and got them adjusted without problem. Front sight post visibility was very good, and the large rear sight aperature was just perfect, it works with my old eyes much better than a notch.
I farted around a little bit adjusting the rear sight until I got acceptable results at both 50 and 100 yrds, then mounted the Aimpoint.

At this point I was pretty pleased and likin' this rifle alot. Feels good and is easy to shoot.

The aimpoint is like cheating. very impressive. It was set way high and took some cranking to get POI down. Love the clarity, brightness and everything about this optic but did seem to have a problem with the shape of the red dot changing from shot to shot. I dunno if it was me or the scope but the 4moa dot would change from a perfect circle to a circle with a little tit on it. Almost like two dots---- which caused me some confusion. I did not get the perfect circle very often and felt like the changing of the dot affected the accuracy of my hold...
over all I really like the aimpoint on this rifle and look forward to more testing!

Its still hard for me to get over the fact a 20rd box of .223 feels empty compared to .308, 30-06 or 8mm.

I think I am going to like this rifle alot. I am very pleased with it.

Went thru 80 rounds and wanted to shoot more but I had yet to test my chi-com SKS and the romainian G-series AKI also brought out with me----plus the cowboys was on and the family was waiting for me to cook thanksgiving din-din.

I'm hopin maybe there will be a little something in this post that's useful to someone.

Hope you-all had a happy thanksgiving!

Dave Dude

davedude · November 23, 2007, 11:27

here is another look at the mousegun

Dave Dude

davedude · November 23, 2007, 11:28

another lookie--just for good measure and I like the downrange look....

Dave Dude

davedude · November 23, 2007, 11:29

Here you can see the progress moveing the ARMS 40L BUIS into proper adjustment. This was at 50 yrds.

Dave Dude

Survey Punk · November 23, 2007, 11:57

Great! I wished I'd known about these rifles when they were available as my cousin wants an AR and you can't hardly build one for the cost.
The recoil spring "boing" and vibration can best be solved by greasing the spring and the inside of the tube. Don't overdo it though. You don't want grease flying around at every shot.

JB

**W.E.G.** · November 23, 2007, 12:34

Sweet!

Have they done sold out of all the bargain-bin guns?

XHardrock · November 23, 2007, 13:50

They still show them available.
http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/?shop=1&cat=33&

Glad you like it Dave but wish you hadn't put the info up.........I gotta save for the Xmas spending,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe.

XHardrock · November 23, 2007, 14:17

I couldn't resist, now I have to decide the color Isotoner gloves mama's gonna get.

uivandal · November 23, 2007, 15:01

Heh ... the wife doesn't know it yet but a 20" HBAR is my Christmas present.

**indy_Muaddib** · November 23, 2007, 16:34

got two of them on the way in.

price is good and from what ive heard the quality is good.

piperpilot1 · November 23, 2007, 18:44

I've been on the fence ever since I saw the first post here about the bargain guns. After seeing your post and the pics of your mousegun I decided to bite the bullet (pun intended) and buy one of the chrome barrel M4A3s. Had them throw in 10 of the new 30 round mags while they were at it.

How long did it take before yours showed up at the gun shop you used to ship it to?

davedude · November 23, 2007, 19:31

piperpilot i got the ship notice on wed nov 14 and got the call from my ffl friday nov 16, pretty quick shipping. I ordered it fri nov 9 and there was just a little snafu about CMMG finding the FFL my dealer sent up there but they got it resolved quick with no hassle. Good transaction and better than advertised product IMHO.

I expected it to be more dirty than it was when I cleaned it yesterday afternoon. I think my G3 gets dirtier!

They sure must have a buttload of these rifles, there was another post here about them and ther is one over on ar15.com as well.....

I will try some grease on the recol spring to damp the boinging there, thanks for that tip!

Dave Dude

d_s · December 05, 2007, 22:46

I just picked one of these up as well, DPMS lower, M4 clone flat top upper, mine came absolutely like new and I didn't even opt for the handpick, this is definitely a good deal if anyone is looking for an AR

November 23, 2007, 11:57	#5
Survey Punk FALaholic #: 8380 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Blounts Creek, NC Posts: 4,160	Great! I wished I'd known about these rifles when they were available as my cousin wants an AR and you can't hardly build one for the cost. The recoil spring "boing" and vibration can best be solved by greasing the spring and the inside of the tube. Don't overdo it though. You don't want grease flying around at every shot. JB __________________ "If innocence is no protection from the weight of criminal law, a crucial incentive to maintain innocence is lost" Fran Haga

November 23, 2007, 12:34	#6
W.E.G. Administrator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 1211 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Virginia Posts: 31,056	Sweet! Have they done sold out of all the bargain-bin guns? __________________ . . . Ask me about the Mason-Dixon FAL Collectors Association.

November 23, 2007, 15:01	#9
uivandal Registered FALaholic #: 6491 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Elbert CO Posts: 401	Heh ... the wife doesn't know it yet but a 20" HBAR is my Christmas present. __________________ Oderint dum metuant ICBMs -- Thermonuclear Projection Last edited by uivandal; November 23, 2007 at 18:58.

November 23, 2007, 16:34	#10
indy_Muaddib Curio & Relic Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 17581 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Tampa FL Posts: 3,046	got two of them on the way in. price is good and from what ive heard the quality is good. __________________ All government, in its essence, is a conspiracy against the superior man: its one permanent object is to oppress him and cripple him. If it be aristocratic in organization, then it seeks to protect the man who is superior only in law against the man who is superior in fact; if it be democratic, then it seeks to protect the man who is inferior in every way against both. One of its primary functions is to regiment men by force, to make them as much alike as possible and as dependent upon one another as possible, to search out and combat originality among them. All it can see in an original idea is potential change, and hence an invasion of its prerogatives. The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is very apt to spread discontent among those who are. -H.L. Mencken 1919 Were not that lucky.

November 23, 2007, 18:44	#11
piperpilot1 Registered FALaholic #: 30495 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 427	I've been on the fence ever since I saw the first post here about the bargain guns. After seeing your post and the pics of your mousegun I decided to bite the bullet (pun intended) and buy one of the chrome barrel M4A3s. Had them throw in 10 of the new 30 round mags while they were at it. How long did it take before yours showed up at the gun shop you used to ship it to? __________________ Those who beat swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who didn't. - Benjamin Franklin The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. Thomas Jefferson

November 23, 2007, 13:50	#7
XHardrock Registered FALaholic #: 16502 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,050	They still show them available. http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/?shop=1&cat=33& Glad you like it Dave but wish you hadn't put the info up.........I gotta save for the Xmas spending,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe.

November 23, 2007, 14:17	#8
XHardrock Registered FALaholic #: 16502 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,050	I couldn't resist, now I have to decide the color Isotoner gloves mama's gonna get.

November 23, 2007, 19:31	#12
davedude Registered FALaholic #: 20538 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas-Fort Worth Posts: 3,880	piperpilot i got the ship notice on wed nov 14 and got the call from my ffl friday nov 16, pretty quick shipping. I ordered it fri nov 9 and there was just a little snafu about CMMG finding the FFL my dealer sent up there but they got it resolved quick with no hassle. Good transaction and better than advertised product IMHO. I expected it to be more dirty than it was when I cleaned it yesterday afternoon. I think my G3 gets dirtier! They sure must have a buttload of these rifles, there was another post here about them and ther is one over on ar15.com as well..... I will try some grease on the recol spring to damp the boinging there, thanks for that tip! Dave Dude

December 05, 2007, 22:46	#13
d_s Registered FALaholic #: 5575 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Oregon Posts: 709	I just picked one of these up as well, DPMS lower, M4 clone flat top upper, mine came absolutely like new and I didn't even opt for the handpick, this is definitely a good deal if anyone is looking for an AR

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