valmet m-76 keep it or sell it?

snake · September 16, 2007, 18:29

ive got a valmet m-76 wood stock in ex condition, bought it back in the middle 80s maybe a thousand rds thru it at the most.thought about selling it to fund a new para fal . mags are so expensive for the valmet and parts you cant find. do i keep it as my safe queen cause i know the value will just keep going up or do i sell it for something i can enjoy. i paid about 750 dollars for it and know it is worth more than that . help me out guys what to do?

B Wood · September 16, 2007, 19:12

Valmets...............I love em.

I currently have three or four left from my hoarding days. They are one of the best AK's built....period. Barrels were typically made by Sako. Mine are all quite accurate.

A model 76 wood stock in .223 was the most common Valmet imported. A total of about 15,000 Valmets of all models were imported. Wood stock models are great shooters, and frequently go for $1200 - $1400. Tube stock models are more rare. Model 76's in 7.62x39mm are extremely rare with only ~ 50 imported. (I own 2 of them).

Mags are NOT a problem.....email me for details if you like. You can modify Bulgarian .223 synthetic mags to work in your Valmet. DO NOT USE GALIL mags in your .223 Valmet.

I would hold onto it.

Questions - how many mags do you have? Accessories? box? manual?

ThePitbullofLove · September 16, 2007, 20:34

I'd keep it.

Valmets are wonderful rifles, the Cadillac of AK's, however, they can be a tough sell to the "unwashed masses", some of whom can't imagine a $1000+ AK. (Yes Otis, I mean you).

They may sit on a trade board for awhile before selling. Too high of a starting price, and they'll sit for months on the auction sites.

*If* you're going to sell, your best bet would be to find a Valmet fanatic.

B.Wood's site used to be the place for Valmet fans. Now that its gone, they've moved to www.valmet.org. I'd post it on their trader.

I'd keep the Valmet, though.

jagdpanzer · September 17, 2007, 01:06

I'd keep it, considering what you have in it and what it would cost to replace it.

-jagd

snake · September 17, 2007, 17:29

thanks guys for your input. it is 223 cal and very acurate. i only have 1 mag with the rifle and a sling that came with it. i have been to the valmet site many times in the past but since i got hooked on fals spend time here learning all i can from you all. B wood i have read about you here and your experance with valmets. guess i will pull it from the safe and enjoy it more. after all i do have 2 fals. dont really need another..

B Wood · September 17, 2007, 17:42

If you need help modifying mags....or finding mags...drop me a line at valmetshooter@aol.com

Valmets can be amazing guns. They literally built too high of a quality gun for the average military unit.....which is exactly why the Finnish army bought Chinese and east german aks for reserve units....the Valmets and Sakos were too expensive at a time when Finland had over 20% unemployment.

good luck!

JPB · September 18, 2007, 14:07

You can still get a current production FAL. The Valmet isn't as replaceable. Keep it.

DarkEarth · September 18, 2007, 22:14

Keep it? or Sell it?

How bout slap that mag in it and take a picture of it for us

Spieler · September 19, 2007, 00:47

I SO regret selling my M76W back in the mid-90s. Bought it in pristine condition with 2 mags for $749 in and sold it on a whim to fund another gun acquisition which was not nearly as satisfying. I say keep it no matter what.

ThePitbullofLove · September 19, 2007, 17:30

Here's mine...

Got it NIB unfired off gunbroker about three years ago for just under $1100 shipped.

Took a wild flyer on an auction at $1050.00, didn't meet reserve, got an email from the seller (a gunshop in AZ) asking if I wanted it at my highest bid.

snake · September 19, 2007, 20:49

i got some pics of the rifle but cant post. nice rifle pitbulloflove. have you fired it yet or is it still new?i notice the trigger pull isnt as tight as my stg58 is this normal for a valmet and it sends brass 20 ft across the range when fired.ejects so hard it crushes the side of the case.

ThePitbullofLove · September 19, 2007, 21:02

No, it didn't stay unfired for long...

I don't collect "Safe Queens"...where's the fun in that?

tulsamal · September 19, 2007, 23:16

When I saw my first pictures of a Valmet with that tube stock, I thought that had to be about the ugliest rifle in history. Then I was lucky enough to see Tony Rumore's collection before he sold it all off. The one that was the "coolest" to me was the tube stock 7.62 NATO version. I couldn't believe how solid that stock locked open. And it actually felt fine when shouldered.

If I could afford one, I would own one!

Gregg

nwobhm · September 20, 2007, 14:30

Snake, I know this goes against the grain but I would sell that rifle. I am a Valmet fan from waaaaaaaaaay back. They are awesome rifles that parts, mags and everything else related are hard to find. A nice DSA FAL Para is worth more now and will be worth even more when the next ban comes. If memory serves correct the factory Valmet mags were $120+ during the ban and FAL mags were $5. The Valmet has also topped out $'s wise due to the parts and mag availability too. Look around, every show I go to has a few for sale and they have a thick coat of dust on them too.

ThePitbullofLove · September 20, 2007, 19:35

I fell in love with the tube stocked Valmet after watching Robin Williams with one in "Survivors"!

I'd wanted one ever since.

jagdpanzer · September 20, 2007, 20:12

"Somethings poking me." "Looks like I brought the wrong bullets." I love that movie. 'Gonna have to dust off that old VHS now.

-jagd

nwobhm · September 21, 2007, 18:59

Quote:

Originally posted by jagdpanzer
"Somethings poking me." "Looks like I brought the wrong bullets." I love that movie. 'Gonna have to dust off that old VHS now.

-jagd

It's on DVD now too.

This guy is slicker than whale shit in an ice flow... Come on' now... doesn't he look like something from the road company of Deliverance...?

That movie is awesome!

Anyone notice the really cool FAL in the gun store? John Goodman was also the guy that was handing out the flyers.

Robin Williams also tells his fiance that his gun is a "308 caliber with a ... Folding stock" 308 must have sounded better even though it was actually a 223.

ThePitbullofLove · September 21, 2007, 20:11

What kind of man gives cigarettes to trees????

B Wood · September 21, 2007, 20:26

lightning 351 · September 22, 2007, 15:04

i say keep it.i just picked one up myself.a 76 223 wood,and i cant wait to buy more.

nwobhm · September 22, 2007, 18:34

Quote:

Originally posted by ThePitbullofLove
What kind of man gives cigarettes to trees????

You shot my gun god damn it!

ThePitbullofLove · September 23, 2007, 00:15

Quote:

Originally posted by nwobhm

You shot my gun god damn it!

"Do you know how much one of these things costs???????!!!!!"

September 16, 2007, 18:29	#1
snake Registered FALaholic #: 21767 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: indiana Posts: 167	valmet m-76 keep it or sell it? ive got a valmet m-76 wood stock in ex condition, bought it back in the middle 80s maybe a thousand rds thru it at the most.thought about selling it to fund a new para fal . mags are so expensive for the valmet and parts you cant find. do i keep it as my safe queen cause i know the value will just keep going up or do i sell it for something i can enjoy. i paid about 750 dollars for it and know it is worth more than that . help me out guys what to do?

September 16, 2007, 19:12	#2
B Wood Registered FALaholic #: 5579 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Low Country SC Posts: 1,530	Valmets...............I love em. I currently have three or four left from my hoarding days. They are one of the best AK's built....period. Barrels were typically made by Sako. Mine are all quite accurate. A model 76 wood stock in .223 was the most common Valmet imported. A total of about 15,000 Valmets of all models were imported. Wood stock models are great shooters, and frequently go for $1200 - $1400. Tube stock models are more rare. Model 76's in 7.62x39mm are extremely rare with only ~ 50 imported. (I own 2 of them). Mags are NOT a problem.....email me for details if you like. You can modify Bulgarian .223 synthetic mags to work in your Valmet. DO NOT USE GALIL mags in your .223 Valmet. I would hold onto it. Questions - how many mags do you have? Accessories? box? manual? __________________ Don't Blame me....I voted for Fred Thompson http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...ooter/CRAP.jpg

September 16, 2007, 20:34	#3
ThePitbullofLove Registered FALaholic #: 8894 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NC Posts: 2,640	I'd keep it. Valmets are wonderful rifles, the Cadillac of AK's, however, they can be a tough sell to the "unwashed masses", some of whom can't imagine a $1000+ AK. (Yes Otis, I mean you). They may sit on a trade board for awhile before selling. Too high of a starting price, and they'll sit for months on the auction sites. If you're going to sell, your best bet would be to find a Valmet fanatic. B.Wood's site used to be the place for Valmet fans. Now that its gone, they've moved to www.valmet.org. I'd post it on their trader. I'd keep the Valmet, though. __________________ If I let you, you would make me destroy myself In order to survive you, i must first survive myself I can sink no further, and I cannot forgive you there's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain I will use my mistakes against you, there's no other choice I'm shameless now, I'm nameless now, I'm nothing now, I'm no one now but my soul must be iron 'cause my fear is naked I'm naked and fearless and my fear is naked...

September 17, 2007, 17:42	#6
B Wood Registered FALaholic #: 5579 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Low Country SC Posts: 1,530	If you need help modifying mags....or finding mags...drop me a line at valmetshooter@aol.com Valmets can be amazing guns. They literally built too high of a quality gun for the average military unit.....which is exactly why the Finnish army bought Chinese and east german aks for reserve units....the Valmets and Sakos were too expensive at a time when Finland had over 20% unemployment. good luck! __________________ Don't Blame me....I voted for Fred Thompson http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...ooter/CRAP.jpg

September 19, 2007, 17:30	#10
ThePitbullofLove Registered FALaholic #: 8894 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NC Posts: 2,640	Here's mine... Got it NIB unfired off gunbroker about three years ago for just under $1100 shipped. Took a wild flyer on an auction at $1050.00, didn't meet reserve, got an email from the seller (a gunshop in AZ) asking if I wanted it at my highest bid. __________________ If I let you, you would make me destroy myself In order to survive you, i must first survive myself I can sink no further, and I cannot forgive you there's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain I will use my mistakes against you, there's no other choice I'm shameless now, I'm nameless now, I'm nothing now, I'm no one now but my soul must be iron 'cause my fear is naked I'm naked and fearless and my fear is naked...

September 17, 2007, 01:06	#4
jagdpanzer Registered FALaholic #: 20690 Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 85	I'd keep it, considering what you have in it and what it would cost to replace it. -jagd

September 17, 2007, 17:29	#5
snake Registered FALaholic #: 21767 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: indiana Posts: 167	thanks guys for your input. it is 223 cal and very acurate. i only have 1 mag with the rifle and a sling that came with it. i have been to the valmet site many times in the past but since i got hooked on fals spend time here learning all i can from you all. B wood i have read about you here and your experance with valmets. guess i will pull it from the safe and enjoy it more. after all i do have 2 fals. dont really need another..

September 18, 2007, 14:07	#7
JPB Registered FALaholic #: 20875 Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 91	You can still get a current production FAL. The Valmet isn't as replaceable. Keep it.

September 18, 2007, 22:14	#8
DarkEarth Registered FALaholic #: 20509 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florida/Central Posts: 920	Keep it? or Sell it? How bout slap that mag in it and take a picture of it for us

September 19, 2007, 00:47	#9
Spieler Registered FALaholic #: 13424 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Metro ATL, Ga, USA Posts: 118	I SO regret selling my M76W back in the mid-90s. Bought it in pristine condition with 2 mags for $749 in and sold it on a whim to fund another gun acquisition which was not nearly as satisfying. I say keep it no matter what.

September 19, 2007, 20:49	#11
snake Registered FALaholic #: 21767 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: indiana Posts: 167	i got some pics of the rifle but cant post. nice rifle pitbulloflove. have you fired it yet or is it still new?i notice the trigger pull isnt as tight as my stg58 is this normal for a valmet and it sends brass 20 ft across the range when fired.ejects so hard it crushes the side of the case.

September 19, 2007, 21:02	#12
ThePitbullofLove Registered FALaholic #: 8894 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NC Posts: 2,640	No, it didn't stay unfired for long... I don't collect "Safe Queens"...where's the fun in that? __________________ If I let you, you would make me destroy myself In order to survive you, i must first survive myself I can sink no further, and I cannot forgive you there's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain I will use my mistakes against you, there's no other choice I'm shameless now, I'm nameless now, I'm nothing now, I'm no one now but my soul must be iron 'cause my fear is naked I'm naked and fearless and my fear is naked...

September 19, 2007, 23:16	#13
tulsamal Registered FALaholic #: 1614 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Vinita, OK Posts: 1,287	When I saw my first pictures of a Valmet with that tube stock, I thought that had to be about the ugliest rifle in history. Then I was lucky enough to see Tony Rumore's collection before he sold it all off. The one that was the "coolest" to me was the tube stock 7.62 NATO version. I couldn't believe how solid that stock locked open. And it actually felt fine when shouldered. If I could afford one, I would own one! Gregg

September 20, 2007, 14:30	#14
nwobhm ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ FALaholic #: 9580 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 5,925	Snake, I know this goes against the grain but I would sell that rifle. I am a Valmet fan from waaaaaaaaaay back. They are awesome rifles that parts, mags and everything else related are hard to find. A nice DSA FAL Para is worth more now and will be worth even more when the next ban comes. If memory serves correct the factory Valmet mags were $120+ during the ban and FAL mags were $5. The Valmet has also topped out $'s wise due to the parts and mag availability too. Look around, every show I go to has a few for sale and they have a thick coat of dust on them too.

September 20, 2007, 19:35	#15
ThePitbullofLove Registered FALaholic #: 8894 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NC Posts: 2,640	I fell in love with the tube stocked Valmet after watching Robin Williams with one in "Survivors"! I'd wanted one ever since. __________________ If I let you, you would make me destroy myself In order to survive you, i must first survive myself I can sink no further, and I cannot forgive you there's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain I will use my mistakes against you, there's no other choice I'm shameless now, I'm nameless now, I'm nothing now, I'm no one now but my soul must be iron 'cause my fear is naked I'm naked and fearless and my fear is naked...

September 20, 2007, 20:12	#16
jagdpanzer Registered FALaholic #: 20690 Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 85	"Somethings poking me." "Looks like I brought the wrong bullets." I love that movie. 'Gonna have to dust off that old VHS now. -jagd

September 21, 2007, 20:11	#18
ThePitbullofLove Registered FALaholic #: 8894 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NC Posts: 2,640	What kind of man gives cigarettes to trees???? __________________ If I let you, you would make me destroy myself In order to survive you, i must first survive myself I can sink no further, and I cannot forgive you there's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain I will use my mistakes against you, there's no other choice I'm shameless now, I'm nameless now, I'm nothing now, I'm no one now but my soul must be iron 'cause my fear is naked I'm naked and fearless and my fear is naked...

September 21, 2007, 20:26	#19
B Wood Registered FALaholic #: 5579 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Low Country SC Posts: 1,530	__________________ Don't Blame me....I voted for Fred Thompson http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...ooter/CRAP.jpg

September 22, 2007, 15:04	#20
lightning 351 Registered FALaholic #: 31638 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: wisconsin Posts: 23	i say keep it.i just picked one up myself.a 76 223 wood,and i cant wait to buy more.

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