Can you shorten a Steyr hammer forged barrel??

EinheitElf · April 16, 2007, 02:46

This is a ?? from a guy at the gunshow from today.
He has a couple stgs built up and he wants to shorten the barrel to like 18" or so,but was told that you cannot cut down a hammer forged steyr barrel because it will destroy the accuracy of the barrel or cause the barrel to lose some property of the steel and basically ruins it.
Have any of you smitthies cut down a hammer forged Steyr barrel with a lathe and run into any functional or accuracy issues??

Thanks!

yovinny · April 16, 2007, 04:35

Never heard anything like that before.
I've only cut one Styer FAL barrel, to a 16.5" carbine, but I havent had any issues with it.
I've also cut, threaded and installed a break on a Styer SSG without issue.

Remington, among other brands, are hammer forged barrels too.
I've cut, adapted to other gun's, re-threaded and re-chambered probably 20 of them without a problem, as have thousands of other people.

chrsdwns · April 16, 2007, 07:46

DSA cuts Steyer barrels to 18" or 16.25" all the time .

Windustsearch · April 16, 2007, 10:17

You need a hack saw, some sand paper, and a marble.

ratas calientes · April 16, 2007, 10:28

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Originally posted by Windustsearch
You need a hack saw, some sand paper, and a marble.

A tube cutter is also nice to mark the barrel before starting in with the hack saw. The first one I did this way, followed by the hack saw, sand paper, and "finger tip" marble, came out amazingly square.

ggiilliiee · April 16, 2007, 11:54

what light breaks thru yonder shoulder datum .....it is T.I.R. .....and shooteth to the east ......he he

ftierson · April 16, 2007, 13:00

Quote:

Originally posted by EinheitElf
This is a ?? from a guy at the gunshow from today.
He has a couple stgs built up and he wants to shorten the barrel to like 18" or so,but was told that you cannot cut down a hammer forged steyr barrel because it will destroy the accuracy of the barrel or cause the barrel to lose some property of the steel and basically ruins it.
Have any of you smitthies cut down a hammer forged Steyr barrel with a lathe and run into any functional or accuracy issues??

Thanks!

Chrome lining can present some problems, but Steyr StG-58 barrels are not chromed...

We shorten StG-58 barrels (on a lathe) to 'carbine' length quite often at the shop...

No problems...

And I can't believe that your friend ran into a moron spouting bullshit at a gunshow...

Forrest

adam762 · April 16, 2007, 13:56

IIRC, Moses routinely wins the RBGC fal match with his bastardized (ahem.. I mean shortened) StG. You'd think all that floppy hair would get in his way, but no...

Anyway, sounds like mall ninja science to me. I cringe at the thought of cutting a nice steyr barrel, though. They're just scarce anymore.

EinheitElf · April 16, 2007, 20:29

thanks guys- This guy was supposedly talkting to some guys from Walther and supposedly they are VERY familiar with barrel making and the steyr hammer forging processes. They stated something about the 'grain' of the steel or harmonics of the barrel will be messed up.

I will forward on the results or send him a link. I was going to see if I could somehow chisel the stg's out of him because he said 'kits' and 'never got them built' but then he said he had them built after all.DAMMIT thought maybe I found the 100.00 kit stash........

ftierson · April 16, 2007, 22:20

Quote:

Originally posted by EinheitElf
thanks guys- This guy was supposedly talkting to some guys from Walther and supposedly they are VERY familiar with barrel making and the steyr hammer forging processes. They stated something about the 'grain' of the steel or harmonics of the barrel will be messed up.

Well, shortening the barrel will certainly change the barrel harmonics, so the Walther guys are correct about that...

But that's what adjustable sights are for...

Forrest

homelandprotector · April 16, 2007, 22:41

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Originally posted by adam762
I cringe at the thought of cutting a nice steyr barrel, though. They're just scarce anymore.

I've been get like new stg barrels from entreprise >> http://www.entreprise.com/qbar.htm

ravenbkp · April 18, 2007, 03:00

I have the Entreprise "Zero Climb" it seems to work pretty well, they also offer a brake from Smith Enterprises that looks interesting and then there is AK concepts they are offering one of theirs for the FAL as well.

Finding they Zero climb and and Smith brake on their site is a little tricky but trust me their there.

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adam762 Registered FALaholic #: 11334 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Zanesville, OH Posts: 3,430	barrel IIRC, Moses routinely wins the RBGC fal match with his bastardized (ahem.. I mean shortened) StG. You'd think all that floppy hair would get in his way, but no... Anyway, sounds like mall ninja science to me. I cringe at the thought of cutting a nice steyr barrel, though. They're just scarce anymore. __________________ When is the bleeding going to stop? Charter Member, Knob Creek Book Club

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EinheitElf Registered FALaholic #: 21533 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kommiefornia Posts: 2,218	thanks guys- This guy was supposedly talkting to some guys from Walther and supposedly they are VERY familiar with barrel making and the steyr hammer forging processes. They stated something about the 'grain' of the steel or harmonics of the barrel will be messed up. I will forward on the results or send him a link. I was going to see if I could somehow chisel the stg's out of him because he said 'kits' and 'never got them built' but then he said he had them built after all.DAMMIT thought maybe I found the 100.00 kit stash........ __________________ http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ue_stealth.gif

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ravenbkp Registered FALaholic #: 23745 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Leandro CA Posts: 44	Brake I have the Entreprise "Zero Climb" it seems to work pretty well, they also offer a brake from Smith Enterprises that looks interesting and then there is AK concepts they are offering one of theirs for the FAL as well. Finding they Zero climb and and Smith brake on their site is a little tricky but trust me their there. __________________ ravenbkp: responsibility and liberty two sides of the same coin

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April 16, 2007, 04:35	#2
yovinny Registered FALaholic #: 7679 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NY transplant to central Illinois, Now in Kentucky Posts: 3,414	Never heard anything like that before. I've only cut one Styer FAL barrel, to a 16.5" carbine, but I havent had any issues with it. I've also cut, threaded and installed a break on a Styer SSG without issue. Remington, among other brands, are hammer forged barrels too. I've cut, adapted to other gun's, re-threaded and re-chambered probably 20 of them without a problem, as have thousands of other people.

April 16, 2007, 07:46	#3
chrsdwns Registered FALaholic #: 9846 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,587	DSA cuts Steyer barrels to 18" or 16.25" all the time .

April 16, 2007, 10:17	#4
Windustsearch Registered FALaholic #: 10219 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Seattle,Wa Posts: 5,702	You need a hack saw, some sand paper, and a marble.

April 16, 2007, 11:54	#6
ggiilliiee banned again FALaholic #: 17179 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: orygun Posts: 4,838	what light breaks thru yonder shoulder datum .....it is T.I.R. .....and shooteth to the east ......he he