First build

UtahIrishman · March 10, 2007, 11:18

First post here. Just want to introduce myself and have a question..

My username here is the same as the one I use on Glock Talk where I've been a member for five years.

I've bought an Imbel parts kit on gunbroker and I have a DSA Type 1 Receiver on order. Hope it gets here soon.

My question is what is the best type of liquid-metal or similar product to use as a metal filler on my FAL? I'm thinking of filling in the A selector position on the lower receiver. I also had an "oops" on the front site where I nicked the metal.

I've seen the Alvin product Lab-Metal but that's a lot of product just to fix a few cosmetic problems.

Any suggestions?

2savage4you · March 10, 2007, 11:49

utahIrishman, welcome to the files. First off let me just say that ive been to GLOCK TALK and asked a couple of questions concerning my two new glocks. All i got was smart ass answers and they were probably from punk ass kids. wheew, now that being said, this is a great site to ask all questions. Just wondering why do you want to fill it in, its the way its supposed to be thats character. are you trying to make a show piece ?

UtahIrishman · March 10, 2007, 12:08

eh...Glock Talk is a mixed bag. Thanks for the welcome.

Perhaps I'm being paranoid about the A position. That's mostly a thought.
I would like to fix the ding I put in the front site though, and I don't think grinding it out will do the trick.

2savage4you · March 10, 2007, 13:02

It must be a pretty bad ding or you are just like me and want it perfect. I can understand that. did it throw off your sight ? have you fired it since then. if its still on then i would just consider it a battle wound and move on. Or even better just build another one. Yep thats what i would do. Cant have too many

UtahIrishman · March 10, 2007, 13:25

The ding isn't on the sight itself but the base. Yea...I'm being a perfectionist. The ding certainly won't hurt the functionality of either the sight or the weapon.

Can't fire it yet. Still building it, err tearing apart actually, and haven't gotten the receiver yet. On order from DSA...waiting anxiously for it. Still a lot of cleanup to do on what I have.

2savage4you · March 10, 2007, 13:40

ya. dsa every time i order from them it seems like a lifetime waiting for my new parts. Patient im not.

elbo · March 10, 2007, 15:39

Quote:

Originally posted by UtahIrishman
My question is what is the best type of liquid-metal or similar product to use as a metal filler on my FAL? I'm thinking of filling in the A selector position on the lower receiver. I also had an "oops" on the front site where I nicked the metal.

Keep in mind that anything short of welding these two places will limit you to a paint finish of some kind. Which is fine since that was how the military did it.

A good epoxy should be enough to do what you want. Limit the travel of the selector so the detent doesn't travel into the repair.

Radio · March 10, 2007, 17:23

Actually you will be limited to a paint surface whether you use JB Weld or common epoxy to fill in both the "A" and the full-auto detent, OR if you use any kind of welder to fill in those things with metal. The act of welding will change the heat-treat of those spots, which will show up like a neon sign when you try to park the lower.

I can understand your trepidation given some recent experiences by certain Board members. Don't forget to limit the selector movement so it won't even get into the "automatic" area (this will help keep stupid LEOs happy) by using an Inch selector, a special Metric "semi-auto" selector, or replacing the pistol grip with a version that does not have the auto-selector cutout.

--Radio

Azrial · March 10, 2007, 18:25

Welcome to the files. I had a small ding in mine and I smoothed it out with a stone and refinished it. You can not really see it.

UtahIrishman · March 10, 2007, 19:41

Thanks for the tips guys. I'll check into the semi-only selector.

I'm planning on using a dura-coat finish, Grey Wolf and Matte Black, so if regular metal epoxy will work I'll go that route.

I've thought about parkerizing, but I'm already over budget so...I'm thinking hard about the parkerizing. I figure it would be well worth it in the long run, but had planned on doing the whole project myself. I'm not ready to tackle doing my own parkerizing on my first project.

I'll let you know as things unfold. Still cleaning things and dis-assembling a few parts at this stage. Taking my time. I think this is going to be a cool project.

**W.E.G.** · March 10, 2007, 20:01

another semi-only grip pic

elbo · March 11, 2007, 21:50

Quote:

Originally posted by UtahIrishman
I'm planning on using a dura-coat finish, Grey Wolf and Matte Black, so if regular metal epoxy will work I'll go that route.

I've thought about parkerizing, but I'm already over budget so...I'm thinking hard about the parkerizing. I figure it would be well worth it in the long run, but had planned on doing the whole project myself. I'm not ready to tackle doing my own parkerizing on my first project.

You should park under the Doracoat. It's worth the extra.
Parking is as easy as boiling water (in a SS pan).

March 10, 2007, 11:18	#1
UtahIrishman Registered FALaholic #: 24935 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Utah Posts: 24	First build First post here. Just want to introduce myself and have a question.. My username here is the same as the one I use on Glock Talk where I've been a member for five years. I've bought an Imbel parts kit on gunbroker and I have a DSA Type 1 Receiver on order. Hope it gets here soon. My question is what is the best type of liquid-metal or similar product to use as a metal filler on my FAL? I'm thinking of filling in the A selector position on the lower receiver. I also had an "oops" on the front site where I nicked the metal. I've seen the Alvin product Lab-Metal but that's a lot of product just to fix a few cosmetic problems. Any suggestions?

March 10, 2007, 17:23	#8
Radio Registered FALaholic #: 263 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Eastern Washington State Posts: 9,868	Actually you will be limited to a paint surface whether you use JB Weld or common epoxy to fill in both the "A" and the full-auto detent, OR if you use any kind of welder to fill in those things with metal. The act of welding will change the heat-treat of those spots, which will show up like a neon sign when you try to park the lower. I can understand your trepidation given some recent experiences by certain Board members. Don't forget to limit the selector movement so it won't even get into the "automatic" area (this will help keep stupid LEOs happy) by using an Inch selector, a special Metric "semi-auto" selector, or replacing the pistol grip with a version that does not have the auto-selector cutout. --Radio __________________ Train Like You Fight: Second PLace is NOT an Option. --E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II* "You seem to fantasize about me a lot. Maybe you should tell your boyfriend? He could dress up like me or something." --*K.O.A.M.*, November 9th, 2009 "You're better off hoping she don't miss, it's quicker that way." --ce, December 15, 2009

March 10, 2007, 18:25	#9
Azrial Registered FALaholic #: 21440 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA! Posts: 4,198	Welcome to the files. I had a small ding in mine and I smoothed it out with a stone and refinished it. You can not really see it. __________________ A Police Officer shows just how much he cares everyday, even if it is the last thing he ever does.

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March 10, 2007, 11:49	#2
2savage4you Registered FALaholic #: 21473 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bullhead/Fort Mohave Az Posts: 741	utahIrishman, welcome to the files. First off let me just say that ive been to GLOCK TALK and asked a couple of questions concerning my two new glocks. All i got was smart ass answers and they were probably from punk ass kids. wheew, now that being said, this is a great site to ask all questions. Just wondering why do you want to fill it in, its the way its supposed to be thats character. are you trying to make a show piece ?

March 10, 2007, 12:08	#3
UtahIrishman Registered FALaholic #: 24935 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Utah Posts: 24	eh...Glock Talk is a mixed bag. Thanks for the welcome. Perhaps I'm being paranoid about the A position. That's mostly a thought. I would like to fix the ding I put in the front site though, and I don't think grinding it out will do the trick.

March 10, 2007, 13:02	#4
2savage4you Registered FALaholic #: 21473 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bullhead/Fort Mohave Az Posts: 741	It must be a pretty bad ding or you are just like me and want it perfect. I can understand that. did it throw off your sight ? have you fired it since then. if its still on then i would just consider it a battle wound and move on. Or even better just build another one. Yep thats what i would do. Cant have too many

March 10, 2007, 13:25	#5
UtahIrishman Registered FALaholic #: 24935 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Utah Posts: 24	The ding isn't on the sight itself but the base. Yea...I'm being a perfectionist. The ding certainly won't hurt the functionality of either the sight or the weapon. Can't fire it yet. Still building it, err tearing apart actually, and haven't gotten the receiver yet. On order from DSA...waiting anxiously for it. Still a lot of cleanup to do on what I have.

March 10, 2007, 13:40	#6
2savage4you Registered FALaholic #: 21473 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bullhead/Fort Mohave Az Posts: 741	ya. dsa every time i order from them it seems like a lifetime waiting for my new parts. Patient im not.

March 10, 2007, 19:41	#10
UtahIrishman Registered FALaholic #: 24935 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Utah Posts: 24	Thanks for the tips guys. I'll check into the semi-only selector. I'm planning on using a dura-coat finish, Grey Wolf and Matte Black, so if regular metal epoxy will work I'll go that route. I've thought about parkerizing, but I'm already over budget so...I'm thinking hard about the parkerizing. I figure it would be well worth it in the long run, but had planned on doing the whole project myself. I'm not ready to tackle doing my own parkerizing on my first project. I'll let you know as things unfold. Still cleaning things and dis-assembling a few parts at this stage. Taking my time. I think this is going to be a cool project.