CMP rack grade?

silentpoet · February 23, 2007, 18:57

Ok I screwed up and didn't get a garand when they had much better choice. So how good/bad are the rack grade garands from the cmp? I could get the garand and still afford to buy a dsa receiver for my kit when the tax refund gets here. Just trying to weigh all my options and get stuff when I can get it. I am also looking at the m1903 remington, not really sure I want the 03a3.

aardq · February 23, 2007, 19:24

Here's the grading system used for the Garands. The CMM uses a different grading system for each type of rifle.

Dan

M1 GARAND SERVICE GRADE

Service Grade Rifles are Genuine U.S. Government rifles manufactured 45 to 60 years ago that meet the Army criteria for issue to a soldier for overseas service. Most have been rebuilt/refinished one or more times and many have seen use by military personnel. That use is exhibited by worn and mixed colors of the metal finish, some minor pitting on the metal parts, and wood that is basically sound but may have minor hairline cracks and nicks and bruises or gouges that do not affect function. The three wood components may vary in type of wood and condition. Metal parts and components may be a combination of different manufacturers. Barrels have a gauged throat erosion of less than 5 (well within U.S. Army standards) with considerable useful life remaining. Some of these are not pretty rifles, but each is authentic. Condition varies from good to very good.

M1 GARAND FIELD GRADE

Field Grade Rifles are mechanically the same as Service Grade, except that muzzle wear may be over a 3 on a muzzle gauge. Field grade rifles show more use and wear than service grade rifles, but still meet Army criteria for issue. Selection below only guarantees the receiver was produced by the manufacturer listed. All other parts may have been produced by other manufacturers.

M1 GARAND RACK GRADE

Rack Grade Rifles are mechanically the same as Service Grade above, except these rifles will have a gauged throat erosion of between 5 and 8 on a TE gauge or muzzle may gauge over a 3 on a muzzle gauge or show above normal wear. Finish will be worn and wood will show more use than Service Grade rifles. This grade is ideal for the individual who does not plan to use the rifle in serious competition or who plans to replace the barrel after a few thousand rounds. Selection below only guarantees the receiver was produced by the manufacturer listed. All other parts may have been produced by other manufacturers.

silentpoet · February 23, 2007, 19:31

I know what they say, but I want to know how that translates into the real world. Is a rack grade good enough for a shooter? Keeping in mind I don't shoot several thousand rounds a year, or at least that is my plan. Thanks for the reply though, I don't want to sound ungrateful.

ltinwi · February 23, 2007, 20:59

I got a rack grade last summer and it shoots just fine.The wood is just as nice
as most guns you see at the shows. Mine has a few small nicks and dings.Think
of it as a 60+year rifle with character.

mpmax · February 23, 2007, 21:18

Of the half dozen or so Rack Grade CMP Garands I've had over the past 8 years, they were all "shootable", some had no finish, fence post grade wood, but all put rounds down range. Match rifles, no.
Value for the price?
For sure.

jaegersapper · February 23, 2007, 22:00

I just got a Greek Rack Grade from the North Store last weekend, I am going to the range with it tommorow. Hopefully. I will let you know how it works. It is my first Garand, but it's mine.

throat erosion around 5, muzzle 2.5

February 23, 2007, 18:57	#1
silentpoet Registered FALaholic #: 24909 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 19	CMP rack grade? Ok I screwed up and didn't get a garand when they had much better choice. So how good/bad are the rack grade garands from the cmp? I could get the garand and still afford to buy a dsa receiver for my kit when the tax refund gets here. Just trying to weigh all my options and get stuff when I can get it. I am also looking at the m1903 remington, not really sure I want the 03a3.

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February 23, 2007, 19:24	#2
aardq Registered FALaholic #: 18645 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Flint Area Posts: 1,155	Here's the grading system used for the Garands. The CMM uses a different grading system for each type of rifle. Dan M1 GARAND SERVICE GRADE Service Grade Rifles are Genuine U.S. Government rifles manufactured 45 to 60 years ago that meet the Army criteria for issue to a soldier for overseas service. Most have been rebuilt/refinished one or more times and many have seen use by military personnel. That use is exhibited by worn and mixed colors of the metal finish, some minor pitting on the metal parts, and wood that is basically sound but may have minor hairline cracks and nicks and bruises or gouges that do not affect function. The three wood components may vary in type of wood and condition. Metal parts and components may be a combination of different manufacturers. Barrels have a gauged throat erosion of less than 5 (well within U.S. Army standards) with considerable useful life remaining. Some of these are not pretty rifles, but each is authentic. Condition varies from good to very good. M1 GARAND FIELD GRADE Field Grade Rifles are mechanically the same as Service Grade, except that muzzle wear may be over a 3 on a muzzle gauge. Field grade rifles show more use and wear than service grade rifles, but still meet Army criteria for issue. Selection below only guarantees the receiver was produced by the manufacturer listed. All other parts may have been produced by other manufacturers. M1 GARAND RACK GRADE Rack Grade Rifles are mechanically the same as Service Grade above, except these rifles will have a gauged throat erosion of between 5 and 8 on a TE gauge or muzzle may gauge over a 3 on a muzzle gauge or show above normal wear. Finish will be worn and wood will show more use than Service Grade rifles. This grade is ideal for the individual who does not plan to use the rifle in serious competition or who plans to replace the barrel after a few thousand rounds. Selection below only guarantees the receiver was produced by the manufacturer listed. All other parts may have been produced by other manufacturers.

February 23, 2007, 19:31	#3
silentpoet Registered FALaholic #: 24909 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 19	I know what they say, but I want to know how that translates into the real world. Is a rack grade good enough for a shooter? Keeping in mind I don't shoot several thousand rounds a year, or at least that is my plan. Thanks for the reply though, I don't want to sound ungrateful.

February 23, 2007, 20:59	#4
ltinwi Registered FALaholic #: 20144 Join Date: May 2006 Location: kendall wi Posts: 11	I got a rack grade last summer and it shoots just fine.The wood is just as nice as most guns you see at the shows. Mine has a few small nicks and dings.Think of it as a 60+year rifle with character.

February 23, 2007, 21:18	#5
mpmax Registered FALaholic #: 10190 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 254	Of the half dozen or so Rack Grade CMP Garands I've had over the past 8 years, they were all "shootable", some had no finish, fence post grade wood, but all put rounds down range. Match rifles, no. Value for the price? For sure.

February 23, 2007, 22:00	#6
jaegersapper Registered FALaholic #: 17256 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Central WV Posts: 73	I just got a Greek Rack Grade from the North Store last weekend, I am going to the range with it tommorow. Hopefully. I will let you know how it works. It is my first Garand, but it's mine. throat erosion around 5, muzzle 2.5