Blazer (CCI) .22 rimfire ammo - opinions

**W.E.G.** · January 21, 2007, 17:30

Looks like it costs about half the price of Mini-Mags.

I'll be using it in Ruger guns (10/22 and Mark II), and Ceiner 1911 conversion - maybe a Glock conversion if I feel like spending that kind of money again.

Anybody have experience with Blazer .22?

Any reason to pay twice as much for Mini-Mags?

Please don't suggest shopping for ammo at Wal-Mart. I don't buy any gun stuff at Wal-Mart.

tia

evan price · January 21, 2007, 18:06

I use CCI's 500-rd packs of .22LRs a lot and I would say they are as good as any cheap .22LR's are, I pay $9.99 per brick for them, they are in 50-rd packs inside. I usually use the Wal*Mart "Golden Bullet" 550 brick bulk packs and these are not any better that I have noticed, in terms of feeding, cleanliness, appearance, etc. Good plinking stuff. I use CCI Stingers in my .22 pistols for SD loads and they are hotter but not so much it's a difference.

ratas calientes · January 21, 2007, 18:29

I have been shooting a lot of the CCI Blazers in the past few years. I like it a lot. It runs as well or better than any of the other cheap .22LR. I pick up a few bricks at almost every gun show for $10 per brick.

Tsm002 · January 21, 2007, 20:05

Grab a few boxes and see if it runs through your .22....
Are you using any hicap mags for the rugers? It's been my experience that the BC hotlips and especially the ramline doublestack mags can be picky about ammo feeding.
If it runs, go for it; I've had good luck with it myself.

**W.E.G.** · January 21, 2007, 21:59

The only high-cap that works in the 10/22 is the TI25 mag. The Butler Creek and Ram-Line mags don't reliably work with ANY ammo in my rifle.

All the ammo I tried in the TI25 worked fine. But, I didn't have any Blazer. The cheapskate in me says I must try the Blazer.

ScottW · January 21, 2007, 22:50

My Ruger MkII likes the CCI Blazer. I tried the Mini Mags too and they were fine, but I didn't think they were worth the extra cost. I usually shoot either Blazer or the Federal 525rd "Value Packs."

gordonm1 · January 21, 2007, 22:53

Blazer purchased the last few years has been less reliable in my 22's compared to that bought ten years ago. I did not like how my 22/45 started jamming after 200 rds. I tried the remmington cheapies in the 550 rd box this year and they are worse for malfunctions and misfires. I don't know what to buy next but I have a supply of CCI minimags for matches.

Minimags at $3/hundred were a good deal but still too much for 500 round plinking sesions. I'll continue to plink with cheap ammo and just go home or add lube when jams occur. A drop or two of oil will generally extend the shooting for 50 rds.

ratas calientes · January 21, 2007, 23:26

Quote:

Originally posted by W.E.G.
The only high-cap that works in the 10/22 is the TI25 mag. The Butler Creek and Ram-Line mags don't reliably work with ANY ammo in my rifle.

All the ammo I tried in the TI25 worked fine. But, I didn't have any Blazer. The cheapskate in me says I must try the Blazer.

What is a TI25?

**W.E.G.** · January 21, 2007, 23:30

Quote:

Originally posted by ratas calientes
What is a TI25?

http://www.tacticalinc.com/ti25-adva...022-p-532.html

Tsm002 · January 22, 2007, 03:10

Those mags are well worth the extra cost...I have 2, and would not hesitate to sell the rest of my mags someday to buy a 3rd, maybe 4th one.
Metal body, can be taken apart for cleaning...
Mmm mm good.
But seriously...wow...even the BC steel lips won't work with any ammo? What sort of chamber do you have in your 10/22? Mine works reliably as long as I have a factory barrel on with steel lips mags nearly 100 percent of the time; with a bentz chambered barrel, that drops significantly.

legion489 · January 22, 2007, 16:40

WEG, the proper answer si NOT "Please don't suggest shooping for ammo at Wal-Mart. I don't buy any gun stuff at Wal-Mart.", the correct answer is "I don't buy ANYTHING at Wal-Mart."

whirlibird · January 22, 2007, 16:53

I can't say for anybody else but I've had extremely good luck with the Blazer as well as the Federal Lightning. Both are produced by Federal by the way.

Both my Kimber's and my Volquartsen 10-22 will stack them in a one hole group all day long (from the bench). I've also had extremely good luck with them in older .22's as the bullet tends to run a bit softer and larger than some competitors and will often fill the bore to start with or will swage up to fill the bore upon firing.

Like all standard lead bullets, keep them out of original Colt .22 Conversion Units, the barrel/chambers will lead up and stick so fast you can't believe it.

Old Blind Squirrel · January 22, 2007, 20:06

I shoot a lot of Blazers through both of my Mark 11's and they function and shoot good. However, sometimes I will have one not light off, but have a good primer indention. I have tried to shoot the same duds 3 times in my guns and still get good firing pin strikes. I have even had another shooter using a S&W 41 try to get it to fire, no luck. For the price I will stick with the Blazer. I use them for Steel Challenge matches, where all you are going to win is bragging rights. For serious shooting, I use Wolf Match Target which is absolutely 100% reliable and accurate. The Blazers also will sometimes not fire out of my 10-22. The Wold MT out of the 10-22 will put them all in the same hole at 50 yards and is 100% reliable. The Wolf is $32.00 or so a box of 500, compared to $7.00 to $8.00 per 500 of the Blazers.
Old Blind Squirrel

**W.E.G.** · January 22, 2007, 20:11

I don't think my Butler Creek mags are steel-lip. Pretty sure they are plastic.

My patience is spent with the big box stores for anything that has to do with firearms.

STGThndr · January 22, 2007, 23:51

I thought EVER-body used CCI Blazer.. Ive used the stuff for some years now in semi auto rifle, pistol and revolvers. My only complaint is the light bullet weight but I guess its that way for a reason. One tip- dont use the HPs on small game you want to eat unless you do headshots. Stockpiled a craphouse load long time ago so dunno about present production.

Tsm002 · January 23, 2007, 09:14

The plastic hotlips mags are great for most purposes-but you'll notice that the top profile of the magazine differs greatly from the ruger hotlips mag. This can cause some issues with ammo, and while the steel lips version fixes some of these problems for some people, it's still touch and go...
Any double stack rimfire design like the ram-line 50's and compact 30's present their own issues, I have never had good consistent luck with them. I seem to recall the single stack 25 rd. mag design so common now being advertised in some older gun rags I have as a "maverick" magazine or some such by either Eaton or Ramline as "fixing the feed problems of the doublestack mags" and "being able to feed anything including truncated cone". Heh.
For any mag to have the top reliability, the top has to look exactly like (and be made from the same materials as) the standard Ruger factory "bx-1" magazine. Some manufacturersm like ramline, have tried to get around this my molding a similar profile out of plastic, I am dubious of the results myself. Others copy it directly-you can see this in the "teardrop" hicap drums for the 10/22.
The tactical solutions mags are great because you can adjust them to fit ANY chamber, which is nice because, havign been through many, many 10/22 barrels myself (both factory and aftermarket, sporter and bentz chambers), ruger factory chambers seem to sometimes be out of spec (maybe on purpose because of reliability? have heard this theory on anothe rimfire only board), and most aftermarket barrels have much tighter chambers.
I was not aware that they are now making synthetic versions of their aluminum mags, what's been your experience with them, W.E.G.? All I have are the metal body mags, would be nice to have other good mags that do not cost nearly 70 a pop :O

January 21, 2007, 17:30	#1
W.E.G. Administrator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 1211 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Virginia Posts: 31,052	Blazer (CCI) .22 rimfire ammo - opinions Looks like it costs about half the price of Mini-Mags. I'll be using it in Ruger guns (10/22 and Mark II), and Ceiner 1911 conversion - maybe a Glock conversion if I feel like spending that kind of money again. Anybody have experience with Blazer .22? Any reason to pay twice as much for Mini-Mags? Please don't suggest shopping for ammo at Wal-Mart. I don't buy any gun stuff at Wal-Mart. tia __________________ . . . Ask me about the Mason-Dixon FAL Collectors Association.

January 21, 2007, 18:06	#2
evan price Registered FALaholic #: 20480 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: THE source for Ohio CCW => http://ohioccwforums.org/ Posts: 2,122	I use CCI's 500-rd packs of .22LRs a lot and I would say they are as good as any cheap .22LR's are, I pay $9.99 per brick for them, they are in 50-rd packs inside. I usually use the WalMart "Golden Bullet" 550 brick bulk packs and these are not any better that I have noticed, in terms of feeding, cleanliness, appearance, etc. Good plinking stuff. I use CCI Stingers in my .22 pistols for SD loads and they are hotter but not so much it's a difference. __________________ http://www.ohioccwforums.org/ Ohio's best CCW resource!*

January 21, 2007, 18:29	#3
ratas calientes Registered FALaholic #: 1841 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,817	I have been shooting a lot of the CCI Blazers in the past few years. I like it a lot. It runs as well or better than any of the other cheap .22LR. I pick up a few bricks at almost every gun show for $10 per brick. __________________ Ratas Calientes (Hot Rats) Rats are people too!

January 21, 2007, 20:05	#4
Tsm002 Registered FALaholic #: 21733 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Huntsville, TX Posts: 1,896	Grab a few boxes and see if it runs through your .22.... Are you using any hicap mags for the rugers? It's been my experience that the BC hotlips and especially the ramline doublestack mags can be picky about ammo feeding. If it runs, go for it; I've had good luck with it myself. __________________ LOL WUT

January 21, 2007, 21:59	#5
W.E.G. Administrator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 1211 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Virginia Posts: 31,052	The only high-cap that works in the 10/22 is the TI25 mag. The Butler Creek and Ram-Line mags don't reliably work with ANY ammo in my rifle. All the ammo I tried in the TI25 worked fine. But, I didn't have any Blazer. The cheapskate in me says I must try the Blazer. __________________ . . . Ask me about the Mason-Dixon FAL Collectors Association.

January 21, 2007, 22:50	#6
ScottW Registered FALaholic #: 23277 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1	My Ruger MkII likes the CCI Blazer. I tried the Mini Mags too and they were fine, but I didn't think they were worth the extra cost. I usually shoot either Blazer or the Federal 525rd "Value Packs."

January 21, 2007, 22:53	#7
gordonm1 Registered FALaholic #: 11572 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Yakima, WA Posts: 275	Blazer purchased the last few years has been less reliable in my 22's compared to that bought ten years ago. I did not like how my 22/45 started jamming after 200 rds. I tried the remmington cheapies in the 550 rd box this year and they are worse for malfunctions and misfires. I don't know what to buy next but I have a supply of CCI minimags for matches. Minimags at $3/hundred were a good deal but still too much for 500 round plinking sesions. I'll continue to plink with cheap ammo and just go home or add lube when jams occur. A drop or two of oil will generally extend the shooting for 50 rds.

January 22, 2007, 03:10	#10
Tsm002 Registered FALaholic #: 21733 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Huntsville, TX Posts: 1,896	Those mags are well worth the extra cost...I have 2, and would not hesitate to sell the rest of my mags someday to buy a 3rd, maybe 4th one. Metal body, can be taken apart for cleaning... Mmm mm good. But seriously...wow...even the BC steel lips won't work with any ammo? What sort of chamber do you have in your 10/22? Mine works reliably as long as I have a factory barrel on with steel lips mags nearly 100 percent of the time; with a bentz chambered barrel, that drops significantly. __________________ LOL WUT

January 22, 2007, 16:40	#11
legion489 Registered FALaholic #: 6297 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Iowa City, Iowa Posts: 533	WEG, the proper answer si NOT "Please don't suggest shooping for ammo at Wal-Mart. I don't buy any gun stuff at Wal-Mart.", the correct answer is "I don't buy ANYTHING at Wal-Mart."

January 22, 2007, 16:53	#12
whirlibird Registered FALaholic #: 5039 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plains of Colorado Posts: 894	I can't say for anybody else but I've had extremely good luck with the Blazer as well as the Federal Lightning. Both are produced by Federal by the way. Both my Kimber's and my Volquartsen 10-22 will stack them in a one hole group all day long (from the bench). I've also had extremely good luck with them in older .22's as the bullet tends to run a bit softer and larger than some competitors and will often fill the bore to start with or will swage up to fill the bore upon firing. Like all standard lead bullets, keep them out of original Colt .22 Conversion Units, the barrel/chambers will lead up and stick so fast you can't believe it. __________________ Don't leave til tomorrow, that which you can gleefully blast into inexistence now.

January 22, 2007, 20:06	#13
Old Blind Squirrel Registered FALaholic #: 12447 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Jonesboro, Ga. Posts: 37	I shoot a lot of Blazers through both of my Mark 11's and they function and shoot good. However, sometimes I will have one not light off, but have a good primer indention. I have tried to shoot the same duds 3 times in my guns and still get good firing pin strikes. I have even had another shooter using a S&W 41 try to get it to fire, no luck. For the price I will stick with the Blazer. I use them for Steel Challenge matches, where all you are going to win is bragging rights. For serious shooting, I use Wolf Match Target which is absolutely 100% reliable and accurate. The Blazers also will sometimes not fire out of my 10-22. The Wold MT out of the 10-22 will put them all in the same hole at 50 yards and is 100% reliable. The Wolf is $32.00 or so a box of 500, compared to $7.00 to $8.00 per 500 of the Blazers. Old Blind Squirrel __________________ Old Blind Squirrel

January 22, 2007, 20:11	#14
W.E.G. Administrator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 1211 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Virginia Posts: 31,052	I don't think my Butler Creek mags are steel-lip. Pretty sure they are plastic. My patience is spent with the big box stores for anything that has to do with firearms. __________________ . . . Ask me about the Mason-Dixon FAL Collectors Association.

January 22, 2007, 23:51	#15
STGThndr Registered FALaholic #: 14583 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Southern Colorado mtns and desert Posts: 3,409	I thought EVER-body used CCI Blazer.. Ive used the stuff for some years now in semi auto rifle, pistol and revolvers. My only complaint is the light bullet weight but I guess its that way for a reason. One tip- dont use the HPs on small game you want to eat unless you do headshots. Stockpiled a craphouse load long time ago so dunno about present production. __________________ Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. W.B Yeats

January 23, 2007, 09:14	#16
Tsm002 Registered FALaholic #: 21733 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Huntsville, TX Posts: 1,896	The plastic hotlips mags are great for most purposes-but you'll notice that the top profile of the magazine differs greatly from the ruger hotlips mag. This can cause some issues with ammo, and while the steel lips version fixes some of these problems for some people, it's still touch and go... Any double stack rimfire design like the ram-line 50's and compact 30's present their own issues, I have never had good consistent luck with them. I seem to recall the single stack 25 rd. mag design so common now being advertised in some older gun rags I have as a "maverick" magazine or some such by either Eaton or Ramline as "fixing the feed problems of the doublestack mags" and "being able to feed anything including truncated cone". Heh. For any mag to have the top reliability, the top has to look exactly like (and be made from the same materials as) the standard Ruger factory "bx-1" magazine. Some manufacturersm like ramline, have tried to get around this my molding a similar profile out of plastic, I am dubious of the results myself. Others copy it directly-you can see this in the "teardrop" hicap drums for the 10/22. The tactical solutions mags are great because you can adjust them to fit ANY chamber, which is nice because, havign been through many, many 10/22 barrels myself (both factory and aftermarket, sporter and bentz chambers), ruger factory chambers seem to sometimes be out of spec (maybe on purpose because of reliability? have heard this theory on anothe rimfire only board), and most aftermarket barrels have much tighter chambers. I was not aware that they are now making synthetic versions of their aluminum mags, what's been your experience with them, W.E.G.? All I have are the metal body mags, would be nice to have other good mags that do not cost nearly 70 a pop :O __________________ LOL WUT

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