Report of strange AR10 problem

**Abominog** · October 23, 2006, 13:25

A friend has an Armalite AR10.

He reports that he removed the bolt for cleaning, then re-inserted the bolt into the carrier.

He says that he absolutely cannot get the bolt back out. He's blaming the rings, thinking they "expanded" (his words) and won't allow it to be removed.

What do you think?

StarPD · October 23, 2006, 16:39

I think he inserted the bolt into the wrong end of the carrier.

TaylorWSO · October 24, 2006, 00:04

This is a known problem in the early models. The only way to get it out is pull it out and destroy the gas rings in the process. Get a new set of rings and it will be good to go.

jdmcomp · October 24, 2006, 11:08

The owners manual specifically addresses this and warns to be careful. It seems the owner did not read the manual. Yes, it probably will destroy the gas rings but that is all. They are cheap so the lesson is not too dear.

The owner has a responsiblity to read and adhere to the manual. I really hate to hear the gripping that so often comes from not taking time to read the manual and screwing up the product.

Para Driver · October 25, 2006, 10:01

okay, and in otherwords, it wasn't idiot proofed??

elbo · October 25, 2006, 11:33

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Originally posted by Para Driver
okay, and in otherwords, it wasn't idiot proofed??

You believe this possible?

jdmcomp · October 25, 2006, 12:09

No, at best someone just comes up with a better idiot.

So now I must reveal there may be a simple solution, it has been known to work in some of these cases with the AR10. Just pull hard on the bolt and rotate the carrier in one direction while holding tension against the rings. On occasion, they will slip past the machined edge. Better chance if the ring is the macfarland type rather then the dod type.

October 23, 2006, 13:25	#1
Abominog Old Fart Gold Contributor FALaholic #: 372 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Finger Lakes, NY Posts: 6,543	Report of strange AR10 problem A friend has an Armalite AR10. He reports that he removed the bolt for cleaning, then re-inserted the bolt into the carrier. He says that he absolutely cannot get the bolt back out. He's blaming the rings, thinking they "expanded" (his words) and won't allow it to be removed. What do you think? __________________ They will live a long time, these men of the South Pacific. They, like their victories, will be remembered as long as our generation lives. Longer and longer shadows will obscure them, until their Guadalcanal sounds distant on the ear like Shiloh and Valley Forge. --- Michener, Tales of the South Pacific Tempus Edax Rerum

October 23, 2006, 16:39	#2
StarPD Registered FALaholic #: 4773 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Phoenix, Posts: 5,299	I think he inserted the bolt into the wrong end of the carrier. __________________ George StarPD ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

October 24, 2006, 00:04	#3
TaylorWSO Registered FALaholic #: 14404 Join Date: May 2004 Location: saudi Posts: 107	This is a known problem in the early models. The only way to get it out is pull it out and destroy the gas rings in the process. Get a new set of rings and it will be good to go. __________________ TaylorWSO

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October 24, 2006, 11:08	#4
jdmcomp Registered FALaholic #: 8267 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 660	The owners manual specifically addresses this and warns to be careful. It seems the owner did not read the manual. Yes, it probably will destroy the gas rings but that is all. They are cheap so the lesson is not too dear. The owner has a responsiblity to read and adhere to the manual. I really hate to hear the gripping that so often comes from not taking time to read the manual and screwing up the product.

October 25, 2006, 10:01	#5
Para Driver Registered FALaholic #: 6350 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 6,297	okay, and in otherwords, it wasn't idiot proofed??

October 25, 2006, 12:09	#7
jdmcomp Registered FALaholic #: 8267 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 660	No, at best someone just comes up with a better idiot. So now I must reveal there may be a simple solution, it has been known to work in some of these cases with the AR10. Just pull hard on the bolt and rotate the carrier in one direction while holding tension against the rings. On occasion, they will slip past the machined edge. Better chance if the ring is the macfarland type rather then the dod type.