The FAL Files  

Go Back   The FAL Files > Image Galleries > FAL Images

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old October 14, 2006, 13:19   #1
Mebsuta
Khemi, Stygia
Contributor
 
Mebsuta's Avatar
 
FALaholic #: 4143
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Khemi, Stygia
Posts: 6,371
Needed some more Mausers

Here, I bought these 98ks over the Summer in private sale. I'm hold them in reserve for later; clean up and maybe rebarrel. They're good cannons. You need a 98k. If you already have one, you need more.

Front to back: dot44, duv42, and 42/1939. The dot and duv and IO imports from the '90s sometime. They have VZ-24 sight hoods for some reason. The 42/1939 is a 2nd or 3rd-wave Russian capture. Dot is BRNO, duv is Berlin-Lübecker Maschinenfabrik, and 42 is Mauser Oberndorf.

The duv is the most interesting, I think. There is still enough matching parts on it to tell what's going on. Early as '42 duv were taking shortcuts. It has the solid band. The receiver has that little step where they deleted some machine work, and they did not polish all the tool marks off the rest of the receiver. There is no provision for a pin in the rear sight leaf, and it's not graduated on the bottom.

Mebsuta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2006, 13:33   #2
Temp
Registered
 
Temp's Avatar
 
FALaholic #: 10384
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: right of center
Posts: 4,224
I wouldn't do a thing to them.

Some of those old Mausers may look a bit on the ugly side when they're viewed individually, but put a collection of them side by side and the differences in their color and finish causes them to take on an entirely new character.

A rack of weathered Mausers has a very artistic quality.

Nice photo.
__________________
Among the worst aspects of the collapse of traditional conservatism is that my children will grow up in a world in which vulgar and belligerent nationalism will be presented to them as the alternative to leftism.
Temp is online now   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2006, 13:43   #3
Mebsuta
Khemi, Stygia
Contributor
 
Mebsuta's Avatar
 
FALaholic #: 4143
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Khemi, Stygia
Posts: 6,371
Thanks Temp. I will just let them be then.

8x57 on the left looks serious. That is 179 gr. E. German from 1960. It appears to have a steel jacket with a thin copper plating, and it probably has a steel or iron core. 8x57 is the ancestor of 7.62x51 on the right.

In 1903 the Germans were getting velocity approaching 3000 fps from their Gew 98s.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg dscn1019~2.jpg (22.8 KB, 596 views)

Last edited by Mebsuta; October 18, 2006 at 20:56.
Mebsuta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2006, 13:54   #4
Mebsuta
Khemi, Stygia
Contributor
 
Mebsuta's Avatar
 
FALaholic #: 4143
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Khemi, Stygia
Posts: 6,371
Fall is coming, and that is Mauser-shooting weather, so get ready.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 98ka~2.jpg (47.4 KB, 594 views)

Last edited by Mebsuta; October 14, 2006 at 14:00.
Mebsuta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2006, 14:08   #5
Temp
Registered
 
Temp's Avatar
 
FALaholic #: 10384
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: right of center
Posts: 4,224
Heading to the gunshop now to see if there's any old Mausers on their milsurp rack.

Mebsuta has done flung a cravin' own me.
__________________
Among the worst aspects of the collapse of traditional conservatism is that my children will grow up in a world in which vulgar and belligerent nationalism will be presented to them as the alternative to leftism.
Temp is online now   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2006, 14:28   #6
Mebsuta
Khemi, Stygia
Contributor
 
Mebsuta's Avatar
 
FALaholic #: 4143
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Khemi, Stygia
Posts: 6,371
It's on now! Post picture if you find something.
Mebsuta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2006, 15:35   #7
Temp
Registered
 
Temp's Avatar
 
FALaholic #: 10384
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: right of center
Posts: 4,224
lol,.... well,,.... no Mausers today, but I can't go into that place without indulging my addiction. Today I found another S&W 'I' frame from the late teens/early 20's. It'll be a carry piece with panache'.

This one is chambered in .38 S&W.

__________________
Among the worst aspects of the collapse of traditional conservatism is that my children will grow up in a world in which vulgar and belligerent nationalism will be presented to them as the alternative to leftism.
Temp is online now   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2006, 16:10   #8
AZMyrmidon
Registered
 
FALaholic #: 21276
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 44
I wonder if I could get $300.00 + s & h for a VZ24 with crest in 85% + condition?
(Not sure if I want to sell, just putting it out there. Heh, heh.) But I might be urged to part with my crestless VZ24 in good -very good condition for the right offer like $250.00 shipped conus. Accepting pms from interested parties.


Fortis!
AZ Myrmidon

Last edited by AZMyrmidon; October 14, 2006 at 16:58.
AZMyrmidon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2006, 16:25   #9
Mebsuta
Khemi, Stygia
Contributor
 
Mebsuta's Avatar
 
FALaholic #: 4143
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Khemi, Stygia
Posts: 6,371
Nice heater Temp. Prolly was in somebody's drawer for many of year.
Mebsuta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2006, 17:18   #10
younggun
Registered
 
FALaholic #: 18437
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: nc
Posts: 1,581
Warning looking at mausers can make them follow you home


sorry for the crapy pic i should get a digital camera
Attached Images
File Type: jpg picture 009.jpg (4.2 KB, 527 views)
__________________
[This space for rent, PM for details]
younggun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2006, 22:59   #11
homelandprotector
Registered
 
homelandprotector's Avatar
 
FALaholic #: 16592
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Reno, Nevada
Posts: 6,161
Meb, where can I find a new or like new K98 barrel?
__________________
We need about 3000 Ron Paul's in Washington.....HLP
homelandprotector is online now   Reply With Quote
Old October 15, 2006, 03:57   #12
Mebsuta
Khemi, Stygia
Contributor
 
Mebsuta's Avatar
 
FALaholic #: 4143
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Khemi, Stygia
Posts: 6,371
For new made 98k barrel, there is Lothar-Walther. For NOS in .308, there are the Norwegian barrels from Coles. I don't know of a source for NOS or mint vintage barrels in 8x57. I think you can still get a pretty nice take-off from Numrich, but it won't be new. They are hit or miss though. You might lurk over on Gunboards a little.

By the way, if anyone wants to know about the 98k and what's out there now, this article in Wiki. pretty much nails it, though there are always little exceptions. Whoever wrote it up did a really good job.

http://www.tfrwiki.com/wiki/index.php/Karabiner_98k

Last edited by Mebsuta; October 15, 2006 at 08:46.
Mebsuta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 15, 2006, 11:18   #13
krallstar
Registered
Contributor
 
FALaholic #: 4791
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: N.E.
Posts: 283
Mauser

I have a Brazilian mauser 7mm. It looks nice but sure hurts to shoot. I like the 1 on the bottom.
krallstar is online now   Reply With Quote
Old October 15, 2006, 11:45   #14
AndyC
Porridge Wog
Contributor
 
AndyC's Avatar
 
FALaholic #: 19755
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Euless, TX
Posts: 11,061
I was reading through that wiki and found it interesting that they mention that the 98k's can still be found in Iraq. I never actually saw a 98k rifle there, but found plenty of ammo marked with the Wermacht eagle.
__________________
My Iraq Pics

Preferred Travel Agent - 72 Virgins Dating Club
AndyC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 15, 2006, 12:02   #15
Mebsuta
Khemi, Stygia
Contributor
 
Mebsuta's Avatar
 
FALaholic #: 4143
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Khemi, Stygia
Posts: 6,371
There are actually some Iraqi cartouched 98ks in the USA. You would see them at gun shows once in a while. It's just a small marking, but they are probably collectable by now and therefore expensive. My guess is that the Iraqi ks were mixed in with all that stuff from Turkey in the early 90s.

My understanding is that Iraq was still holding 98ks in reserve prior to 1st Gulf War. When round two began, there was a helicopter than had been hit or had trouble and had to set down. The Iraqis rushed a TV crew in and shot video of an old farmer in front of it with a 98k, claiming that he had shot it down. Who knows? I'm sure the US was back shortly to destroy the helicopter on the ground.

Last edited by Mebsuta; October 15, 2006 at 12:30.
Mebsuta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 15, 2006, 12:16   #16
YankeeWhite
Registered
 
FALaholic #: 2074
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 143
I sold off a Yugo 98k and a M48A this week, so I took the Russian capture 98k and my 24/47 out yesterday for 80 rounds. The shoulder was hurting after that. The 98 got more accurate the more I shot it.
Makes the .308 guns feel like ARs. I'll take out my Brno 98/22 next time.
YankeeWhite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 15, 2006, 12:26   #17
rcnpthfndr
Registered
 
FALaholic #: 12905
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: 17013
Posts: 1,161
i might have a pic of a 98k we found over there. we also found a garand, and some enfields, not to mention an assload of hi powers. then there was the mg 42 they used on us in an ambush.
rcnpthfndr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 15, 2006, 12:52   #18
rcnpthfndr
Registered
 
FALaholic #: 12905
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: 17013
Posts: 1,161
here is a mauser that was given to me from a widow in washington. it was brought back by her husband, he sporterised it but it is all matching numbers. he used it to hunt deer and elk and it sat behind the door. then after he died in 92, she asked a soldier of mine if he knew anyone who liked guns. she was going to give it away or turn it over to the police. so i ended up with it. serial number 8099.






then here is my hi power. my great great uncle brought it back Sn 234xx





thought i would share
rcnpthfndr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 17, 2006, 10:33   #19
firedog
Registered
 
FALaholic #: 14289
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 974





Not the most recent but a couple I have picked up over the summer
firedog is online now   Reply With Quote
Old October 17, 2006, 19:39   #20
JohnnyMac
Veteran Member
Bronze Contributor
 
FALaholic #: 365
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Commonwealth of Virginia, CSA
Posts: 1,786
Quote:
Originally posted by AndyC
I was reading through that wiki and found it interesting that they mention that the 98k's can still be found in Iraq. I never actually saw a 98k rifle there, but found plenty of ammo marked with the Wermacht eagle.
It might be a slightly regional thing in Iraq. I saw several Mausers, mostly later Yugo M48's that were found in weapons caches in Tal Afar / Mosul region. They are believed to have come through Syria, as the Syrians bought a bunch back in the late 60's/70's for arming home-guard/militia-type forces during the Arab-Israeli wars.

JMc

P.S. The most unusual Mauser I saw had a homemade scopemount and a Russian sniper scope all WELDED together.[
JohnnyMac is online now   Reply With Quote
Old October 17, 2006, 20:23   #21
Mebsuta
Khemi, Stygia
Contributor
 
Mebsuta's Avatar
 
FALaholic #: 4143
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Khemi, Stygia
Posts: 6,371
That's yet another reason why the US should be trading with everybody. Mausers out of Syria should be surplused out, brought here, and given good homes, rather than turning up in Iraq where they are used to take pot-shots at our guys.
Mebsuta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 18, 2006, 10:00   #22
rcnpthfndr
Registered
 
FALaholic #: 12905
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: 17013
Posts: 1,161
tal afar and north of avgani was where we found alot of ours also
rcnpthfndr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 18, 2006, 11:08   #23
lew
Registered
 
lew's Avatar
 
FALaholic #: 16727
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: somewhere
Posts: 5,759
Quote:
Originally posted by Mebsuta
That's yet another reason why the US should be trading with everybody. Mausers out of Syria should be surplused out, brought here, and given good homes, rather than turning up in Iraq where they are used to take pot-shots at our guys.
That's a little too logical for the powers that be. You should know that.
lew is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 18:26.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©1998-2012 The FAL Files