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Old October 07, 2001, 12:48   #1
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Homemade Extractor Tool - *pics*

Bubba's New-fangled, High-tech, One-handed, Coat Hanger Extractor Extractor Tool
My submission to WECSOG U.

Build one yourself!
Tools needed for the job: Coat hangers of course, Two pair pliers, maybe a pair of needle nose, wire snips, a file or sand paper, maybe a concrete sidewalk or better yet, a Dremel. Whatever you can use to flatten the snipped end of the white wire where it goes in the extractor plunger.


Fashion your skinny (the white wire), and a fatter (the dark wire) coat hangers like this.
At least a double twist is needed to keep it from sliding around the bend. You can increase or decrease the twist for fine tuning of the length.



Pop out your firing pin & pin and stick the fat wire in that hole. The skinny wire goes in the extractor plunger hole.



Keep your thumb on the white wire 'cause this ain't no 4140 chrome molly piece of equipment. (For some reason coat hanger wire wont temper!?)
Sqeeze and... Presto!


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Old October 07, 2001, 12:52   #2
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Bubba, (or should I call you Dr. Bubba of WECSOG)
You 'da man!! Thanks for the pics. One is in progress right now.
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Old October 07, 2001, 15:23   #3
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Ingenious, Bubba.
Does the white wire want to straighten out on you or does it stay nicely bent?
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Old October 07, 2001, 16:30   #4
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Damn Sam....Works like a charm !
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Old October 07, 2001, 20:44   #5
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Simply outstanding.

BTW, I noticed no Dremel tool was involved. Does this diqualify Bubba from the WECSOG Hall of Fame?
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Old October 08, 2001, 18:59   #6
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Amazing! I am truly impressed. But then again...it doesn't usually take much to impress me! Honestly, though, my hat is off to you for that idea!
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Old October 08, 2001, 20:58   #7
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One way to eliminate the bending problem would be to use an appropriately-sized drill bit for the engagment spud. You can just wrap the white hangar a two or three times around the drill bit, and hold your thumb against the bit to keep it from twisting as you apply leverage to the device.

Yeah Bubba!
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Old October 09, 2001, 01:43   #8
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Man, this really puts my Rube Goldberg contraption to shame. And it's even field portable. AND it costs a whole lot less than $2.58. I am properly humbled. Gotta try me one!

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Old October 10, 2001, 09:15   #9
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BRAVO!!!!

Curiosity got the better of me once and I removed the extractor from my bolt so I could see how it worked. It took me an hour to get it back together using the nose of a bullet to compress the spring (like the manual says to do it). I was almost reduced to tears getting it back together!!!

Going to the coat closet now in search of coat hanger,
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Old October 10, 2001, 15:06   #10
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Damn! I wish I'd thought of that!

I second the motion of awarding Bubba the Doctorate of WECSOG!
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Old October 11, 2001, 09:40   #11
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Wow, I finally contributed something to the world of FAL (coathangers). Glad y'all like the plan.
As you can see I modified the post to where a dremel tool may be useful.

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Old February 02, 2002, 22:55   #12
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Bubba,

You are a genius.

I've owned this rifle for two years and was so afraid of this procedure, that I haven't cleaned the extractor since I bought it.

My rifle is happy now. Thanks. (and especially thanks to the board for the 'search' function.)
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Old October 30, 2002, 20:52   #13
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I was puzzling over extractor removal this afternoon and made a search of the FALFiles. I knew it would be here!

I just free-formed a coathanger piece with some pliers and after a few minutes of head scratching, cursing, and finger pinching, I got it figured out. Extractor out, cleaned and reversed the procedure to get the extractor back in...

Sweet!

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P.S. Can I get half-WECSOG-credit for hurting myself in the process?
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Old October 31, 2002, 00:02   #14
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i posted the first pic here to another thread " extractor goo " i copied that picture from another thread some months ago, just couldn't remember who the picture belonged to. sorry
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I cheated and bought the extractor tool.
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Old October 31, 2002, 02:22   #16
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Cheeters never prosper in a wecsog world.
I'll have to post some pictures of my wecsoged buttstock and pistole grip removal tool. Maybe get a honorary doctorate.
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Old October 31, 2002, 08:52   #17
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That is absolutely awesome
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Old October 31, 2002, 08:59   #18
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i also made one , along with a barrel wrench and a receiver wrench.
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Old July 13, 2003, 16:56   #19
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This thread needs to be revived! Brilliant!!!!
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Old July 13, 2003, 19:18   #20
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thanks bubba, its a thing ov beauty, cant wait to make one and give it a try.
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Old July 13, 2003, 19:58   #21
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I thought we weren't gonna say bubba anymore? Ooops, wrong thread.

I'm still using the same one I made almost a year ago!
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Old July 14, 2003, 12:56   #22
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I made one and it was not stiff enough to do the job. I ended up putting the bolt in a vice and using a punch to push the plunger down. I did shoot the plunger out but I was lucky enough to have a mess on the floor and capture it before it got away. My spring had a rubber buffer in the middle. Is this normal? Anyways, I gave the tool I made to a buddy to let him try it.

The design is masterful, its just that my materials sucked.
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Old July 14, 2003, 13:13   #23
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The rubber buffer is normal. Some have deteriorated over time or maybe eaten by "The Langoliers."

I've had better results by clamping a nail in the vise and pushing against it with the bolt, instead of the other way around that you mentioned. This method gives me more to grab ahold of, and more leverage against the nail. It's also much easier to gouge the crap out of your hand if you slip, however. That's why I built my own extractor tool, the famous $2.58 Extractor Tool of early 2001. If I can ever recover the digital pics in my sister's computer, I'll post them here again for you.

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Old October 16, 2003, 18:46   #24
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This deserves a bump!!

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Old October 17, 2003, 07:31   #25
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Hawkish, you're absolutely right. I've used the one I made for over a year now. I'm thinking about making another. I've already been scouting the hanger supply.
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Old October 17, 2003, 08:05   #26
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I was so thrilled with it I made 2! The great thing about it is it only took me 10 minutes to do both. The heavy hanger was from a batch i bought at Wal-Mart. they are chromed and fit the fireing pin retainer hole perfectly.

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Almost brought a tool.Vice method works at home.

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Thanks for posting that Bubba. Great idea!
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Old October 17, 2003, 20:28   #29
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I made one out of the prescribed coat hanger. Worked good on the first two bolts. Then I came up against a real tuff extreactor spring that bent the heck out of the cam area of my coat hanger tool. I made another tool out of Stainless Steel wire of about the same diameter. WOW that one realy has some backbone.
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Old October 18, 2003, 18:28   #30
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I was wondering, just how thick is the thick coathanger wire? I mean, it'd have to be pretty damn stout to hold up to an extractor spring.
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Old October 18, 2003, 19:02   #34
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are those in response to my post? If so, what I really meant to say was: what kind of coathanger is made of that thick of wire? How many thousands thick is it?
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Instead of using a peice of coat hanger, why not use one of the useless allen wrenches you get with put together furniture.



They work pretty good for this.


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i made the one as pictured, works great thanks ,BILL
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The large coat hanger I used is .105 and the small one is .081 The large hangers I found at Wal-Mart.

FYI: The firing pin retaining pin measures .116
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Anyone happen to see the real deal on Ebay?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=36258

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Thanks Buuba

I put together one of your contraptions and it almost worked. Seems my large diameter coat hanger wire wasn't stiff enough to handle the torque. I thought I was going to have to spend some bucks for the proper tool. Dang.

Then I had a thought. I looked around for some small 1/2 X 1/8 inch flat stock I had and found it. I cut off a piece about 6" long and start looking for something to use as a pivot pin. I found a nail that worked great. Drilled a hole slightly smaller than the daimeter of the nail about 1 1/4 inch from one end dead center of the stock. Used my torch to heat the stock cherry red and then drove the nail through the hole. Cooled everthing with a blast of WD-40 and the nail was firmly held in place.

I then used a small diameter clothes hanger wire to engage the extractor plunger and determined how long the wire should be with the flat stock about a 45 degree angle. I drilled a hole close to the edge of the stock, inserted the wire and bent it so that it would rotate freely and remain attached to the stock.

Out came the dremel to remove all of the sharp edges and square up the wire cutter marks on the wire.

Tested the tool on my extractor and worked like a champ. I could not have come up with this with your original idea, so, THANKS AGAIN BUBBA.

Soory I don't have picture yet, but if you want some, IM me.
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Old April 06, 2004, 07:09   #42
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Bubba's extractor tool

I tried to make one of these suckers a couple of times with different wire from various sources. They all were dismal failures. I finally just clamped a sharp, stout nail in the bench vise. I used the point of the nail in the little hole in the side of the extractor and pushed like heck on the bolt so as to compress the extractor spring and free the "dog leg" of the extractor. (I also used a leather glove on my right hand so that I would not jab that sharp nail into my knuckles in case the extractor slipped off of the sharp nail.) It was very simple if not very pretty! Still a pocket sized extractor removing tool would be nice to have in my shooter's box!

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Hmmm. I'd never seen this thread before. Let's bring it back for some of the Newb's like me.
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Hey thanks strongmedicine and fastprofessor. I hadn't seen this thread before. I made one of these the other night and man is it slick. I used the wire out of a control cable like from a manual choke or lawn mower (lonmoer?) throttle for the part that goes into the extractor plunger. That wire is hard stuff! Watch out though. While I was showing it off to my buddy and braggin' about it, I removed the extractor & got careless and launched the extractor plunger about 30 feet across the factory floor. Lucky I was able to find it and the spring. "I coulda' put someones eye out" (probably my own). I'd like to see a picture of the bar stock version.

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Old January 27, 2007, 19:06   #46
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this is the easiest and most effective WECSOG trick I've ever seen!

I recently started experiencing some weird FTE with my DSA, and after reading a few posts, narrowed it down to the extractor spring. When I removed it to clean (hoping it was just crudded up) I learned that I could remove and reinstall the extractor without too much difficulty using nothing but a little leverage on the edge of my coffee table.

The new springs arrived yesterday, whoa...what a difference. There was absolutely no friggin' way I was going to get that thing back in there. I remembered this post, fab'd up a tool (took me all of about 3 minutes to do), and had the reassembly complete inside of 1 minute.




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I formally request to the powers that be.....that this thread be stickied. Bubba's tool was the first of it's kind I used. And I used it a lot! This is a very valuable thread and needs to be enshrined on the top of the G&BIY forum!
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Actually, the easiest WESCOG trick I've duplicated is sticking the tip of a small screwdriver directly into the end of my thumb!

That was lastweekend and the blood is still congealed under the skin!

Hey, I oughta get some WESCOG points for that!
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BTT, and a comment. When I build mine I may go with mild steel around 5/32 (eyeball) for the lever and give a shot at hardening the smaller wire. Here's a formula I picked up online, some of you must have seen it;

5 Gal water
5 lbs table salt
8 oz Shaklee Basic-I or 7oz UNSCENTED Jet-Dry
32 oz of Dawn dishwashing liquid (the blue one)

For case hardening mild steel. I haven't tried it yet but read that the fellow that developed it made a chisel from a bar of steel, heated and quenched it in this solution twice and proceeded to cut the original bar in two with the chisel.

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