hesse inch parts quality?

eman · February 13, 2001, 17:35

Has anyone had the hesse inch parts?Are they good or should I wait for something else?I'm not in a hurry and want solid guts for my inch.
Thanks,E.

Enquiring Minds · February 14, 2001, 02:27

The debate rages on. Many are happy. Some are wary. Click on:
http://www.fnfal.com/forums/Forum3/HTML/001349.html

Then again, your only other option is... ?

juanni · February 14, 2001, 02:52

After my introduction to Hesse's products via a one of their metric recievers I would never buy anything they made. In 25 years of mechanical rebuilding and home machine shop experience that Hesse was the worst example of precision workmanship I have ever seen. It's sad when some third world peasant who has only run a lathe or mill for a week can produce a better product than an American company.
Hesse's customer service is non existent.
Juanni
No More Hesse! No More Hesse!..............

gcc · February 14, 2001, 04:57

Dan@VOW is tooling up to make inch fire control parts. A lot of folks are going to want these so email him to get on his waiting list!

Gerald aka Penguin

woodie · February 14, 2001, 06:06

hopefully they will be better than their 80% metric parts, their non-walnut walnut pistol grips, but doubt it

Timber Wolf · February 14, 2001, 06:20

Fully half of everything I have gotten from Hesse (including inch internals) was crap and required rework. About 25% I was never able to get to work and either sent back for replacement or just ate because I was ashamed about ordering the s++t to start with. You roll the dice with Hesse.

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First rule of gunfighting, "Have a gun!".
Timber Wolf, N.R.A. Endowment Member

Double G Gunsmithing · February 14, 2001, 08:11

Dear eman,

We have put about a dozen or so sets of Hesse
L1A1 / Inch Patt fire control groups in with no problems. 2 sets are in my own L1A1's.

Dan @ VOW is setting up to make his too. Other people have talked of making them, but no one else has come through.

Would I use Hesse fire control groups ? And there are many FAL's I've built for people here on the board that have been happy with them and the Metric set.

No hammer breakage issues like FSE had.

Order Robrt's, or wait for Dan @ VOW.

Everything Dan has come out with and sold has been first rate.

Sincerely, George L. Gouger
Life Member NRA Since 1969
www.doubleggunsmithing.com

Tango 1Zero · February 14, 2001, 08:16

I bought a Hess U.S. fire control group from a guy on the boards for an AK47. I got lucky dropped right in no problems only cost me $20
I have seen the god awfulest Hess made FALs all 3 were the same model and all the barrels were different lengths, nasty welded on brakes and wood screws for stock screws.

Timber Wolf · February 14, 2001, 12:07

I respect George and believe him when he says he gets usable stuff from Hesse. I also know what I have gotten. I have ordered the following from Hesse with the posted results:

Two Gas pistons, one O.K., one unpolished (rough) and oversize in diameter. It would only fit in one L1A1 out of eight FALs I tried it in.

Three sets of Inch internals, one hammer cast with a left leaning bend to where it would not fall due to hitting the upper when assembled, went back for replacement. Received a servicable replacement.

Two US wood metric grips, one O.K., one split vertically on both sides.

One US synthetic buttstock (same s**t as Century?). Complete and total trash. A two piece affair that is too short to even tighten up when installed.

My dealings on the phone with Hesse have been abrupt but satisfactory with both returns and severely shorted orders. Shipping was very fast.

To sum: I am a big boy spending my own money. I had a pretty good idea about what I was dealing with and chose to take the risk. Just passing this along so others can make an informed decision.

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First rule of gunfighting, "Have a gun!".
Timber Wolf, N.R.A. Endowment Member

eman · February 14, 2001, 16:41

Thanks for the input guys."Ask the audience"is always a safe bet so it looks like Dan's the man.
Thanks again,E.

**W.E.G.** · October 20, 2001, 08:49

btt

February 13, 2001, 17:35	#1
eman Registered FALaholic #: 2454 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: den,colo,usa Posts: 23	hesse inch parts quality? Has anyone had the hesse inch parts?Are they good or should I wait for something else?I'm not in a hurry and want solid guts for my inch. Thanks,E.

February 14, 2001, 02:27	#2
Enquiring Minds Registered FALaholic #: 209 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: "The Venice of America"... FLL... Posts: 4,157	The debate rages on. Many are happy. Some are wary. Click on: http://www.fnfal.com/forums/Forum3/HTML/001349.html Then again, your only other option is... ? __________________ "We live in a gangster state, and our days of laughing at other countries are over." --Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone

February 14, 2001, 02:52	#3
juanni Registered FALaholic #: 2439 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: up a creek in MT Posts: 8,417	After my introduction to Hesse's products via a one of their metric recievers I would never buy anything they made. In 25 years of mechanical rebuilding and home machine shop experience that Hesse was the worst example of precision workmanship I have ever seen. It's sad when some third world peasant who has only run a lathe or mill for a week can produce a better product than an American company. Hesse's customer service is non existent. Juanni No More Hesse! No More Hesse!.............. __________________ Originally posted by VonFireball on 10/26/2012 Actually you, Jason B, and Herr Goebbels are pretty much the only communists on this board.

February 14, 2001, 06:20	#6
Timber Wolf Registered FALaholic #: 805 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Southern U.S. Posts: 2,862	Fully half of everything I have gotten from Hesse (including inch internals) was crap and required rework. About 25% I was never able to get to work and either sent back for replacement or just ate because I was ashamed about ordering the s++t to start with. You roll the dice with Hesse. ------------------ First rule of gunfighting, "Have a gun!". Timber Wolf, N.R.A. Endowment Member __________________ First rule of gun fighting: "have a gun!" "Guns don't kill people. Daddys with good looking daughters do!"

February 14, 2001, 08:11	#7
Double G Gunsmithing Locked Account FALaholic #: 983 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Eugene, Oregon Posts: 543	Dear eman, We have put about a dozen or so sets of Hesse L1A1 / Inch Patt fire control groups in with no problems. 2 sets are in my own L1A1's. Dan @ VOW is setting up to make his too. Other people have talked of making them, but no one else has come through. Would I use Hesse fire control groups ? And there are many FAL's I've built for people here on the board that have been happy with them and the Metric set. No hammer breakage issues like FSE had. Order Robrt's, or wait for Dan @ VOW. Everything Dan has come out with and sold has been first rate. Sincerely, George L. Gouger Life Member NRA Since 1969 www.doubleggunsmithing.com __________________ Life Member NRA Since 1969 http://www.doubleggunsmithing.com

February 14, 2001, 04:57	#4
gcc Registered FALaholic #: 352 Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 249	Dan@VOW is tooling up to make inch fire control parts. A lot of folks are going to want these so email him to get on his waiting list! Gerald aka Penguin

February 14, 2001, 06:06	#5
woodie Registered FALaholic #: 68 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 942	hopefully they will be better than their 80% metric parts, their non-walnut walnut pistol grips, but doubt it

February 14, 2001, 08:16	#8
Tango 1Zero Registered FALaholic #: 2133 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 281	I bought a Hess U.S. fire control group from a guy on the boards for an AK47. I got lucky dropped right in no problems only cost me $20 I have seen the god awfulest Hess made FALs all 3 were the same model and all the barrels were different lengths, nasty welded on brakes and wood screws for stock screws. __________________ Welcome to the World of the Original Black Rifle (F@ck you Kofi Annan)

February 14, 2001, 12:07	#9
Timber Wolf Registered FALaholic #: 805 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Southern U.S. Posts: 2,862	I respect George and believe him when he says he gets usable stuff from Hesse. I also know what I have gotten. I have ordered the following from Hesse with the posted results: Two Gas pistons, one O.K., one unpolished (rough) and oversize in diameter. It would only fit in one L1A1 out of eight FALs I tried it in. Three sets of Inch internals, one hammer cast with a left leaning bend to where it would not fall due to hitting the upper when assembled, went back for replacement. Received a servicable replacement. Two US wood metric grips, one O.K., one split vertically on both sides. One US synthetic buttstock (same s**t as Century?). Complete and total trash. A two piece affair that is too short to even tighten up when installed. My dealings on the phone with Hesse have been abrupt but satisfactory with both returns and severely shorted orders. Shipping was very fast. To sum: I am a big boy spending my own money. I had a pretty good idea about what I was dealing with and chose to take the risk. Just passing this along so others can make an informed decision. ------------------ First rule of gunfighting, "Have a gun!". Timber Wolf, N.R.A. Endowment Member __________________ First rule of gun fighting: "have a gun!" "Guns don't kill people. Daddys with good looking daughters do!"

February 14, 2001, 16:41	#10
eman Registered FALaholic #: 2454 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: den,colo,usa Posts: 23	Thanks for the input guys."Ask the audience"is always a safe bet so it looks like Dan's the man. Thanks again,E.

October 20, 2001, 08:49	#11
W.E.G. Administrator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 1211 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Virginia Posts: 31,109	btt __________________ . . . Ask me about the Mason-Dixon FAL Collectors Association.

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