Revised: Thanks to Bigger_Is_Better, lets play, whats the earliest BC you have?

hydrotx · February 23, 2006, 18:49

I was starting to clean out the spare parts bin to get ready to list some stuff on the marketplace and found this.

And upon closer inspection, they look like this. I'm curious about the lower one in the photo.

**GMB74** · February 23, 2006, 19:59

I have a bolt in my spare parts box- s/n 4191. It's a single- cam bolt. Is yours a single- cam carrier?

boman · February 23, 2006, 20:24

It's Belgian and if it's from an STG it was made for the original Austrian contract which was in the early sixties

**EMDII** · February 23, 2006, 21:25

All 20K StG were built in 1958. No guesses.

Bigger_Is_Better · February 24, 2006, 17:18

Here's number 957.

hydrotx · February 24, 2006, 18:53

Bastage. You win. Lets see how low we can go!!! Time to change the thread name.

mojo_matic · February 24, 2006, 19:01

I have a matching Belgian bolt and carrier...serial # 303. It came installed in a missmatched STG58 build.

The bolt uses a two piece extractor, and I believe is dual cam. Taking this into consideration, just because the serial number is low, doesn't necessarily mean that the parts are "earlier."

Anyone have some rarly single cam bolt/carrier sets, with one piece extractor?

Bigger_Is_Better · February 24, 2006, 19:03

LOL...those numbers don't seem to make them any more valuable. I tried to sell this awhile back without even a bite!! I've never played let's see whose is smallest I mean lower before!!

Aaron

Bigger_Is_Better · February 24, 2006, 19:04

OH, forgot...this is a G1 bolt carrier.

neminion · February 24, 2006, 21:11

176 - STG58 complete rifle, original finish (thanks Boman!)

Have 2 single-cam Type A BCs/Bolt sets complete and unserialized. EX1 sells them. Look new, unissued. They are in my C1 kits.

NZ L1A1 Collector · February 24, 2006, 21:12

Ohhhhhh well if we want to play like this...........

I have a bolt carrier that was made in 1953 ............. do I win?

hydrotx · February 24, 2006, 21:23

Professional can play for prestige, no cash prizes.

Quote:

Originally posted by NZ L1A1 Collector
Ohhhhhh well if we want to play like this...........

I have a bolt carrier that was made in 1953 ............. do I win?

bill3542 · February 24, 2006, 22:50

well 8967 from my first build which is a F.N. proofed STG-58 kit aint gonna do it.

chrsdwns · February 25, 2006, 00:07

I have one Belgian set with three digits on it. Don't know what they are because they are in some obscure Middle Eastern or Asian script. Kind of cool and the only ones I've ever seen.

NZ L1A1 Collector, I'll bite on that one. Is the carrier perhaps connected to a set of parts resembeling a FAL that were also produced in 1953?

Perhaps a photo would help.

MAG58 · February 25, 2006, 01:19

2006
G1 Carrier

**Falcon** · February 25, 2006, 08:05

Here's one I have along with a early lugged firing pin.

**GMB74** · February 25, 2006, 20:45

Interesting! The firing pin in my bolt looks like a standard pin- not lugged like yours. Mine has a two-piece extractor also.
Do single-cam bolts require a single-cam bolt carrier to work properly, or can you use a later double- cam carrier with no problems?
Are the carriers even different?

NZ L1A1 Collector · February 25, 2006, 21:00

Here a pic of my carrier.

Note the absence of a stamped serial number. It's electro-pencilled on the left hand side just above the rail. This is a single cam carrier and the breech block does have the cut-out for the lugged firing pin as Falcon has shown. Unfortunately my firing pin has been replaced with a non lug at sometime.

Serial numbering is no way of figuring out the 'oldest' carrier, mines serial numbered 5011 and probably falls inside first 8,000 rifles made by FN as Canada purchased 2000, Britian purchased 5000, then there was Belgium and Venezuela, Israel and others that purchased FAL's in 1954.

Bigger_Is_Better · March 31, 2010, 23:15

Does anyone know what the A on Falcon's carrier means? I have Serial number 252 with the A.

Aaron

**johnny.308** · April 03, 2010, 10:39

And I thought my #991 was early.

February 23, 2006, 18:49	#1
hydrotx Registered FALaholic #: 37 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: PA for now Posts: 1,414	Revised: Thanks to Bigger_Is_Better, lets play, whats the earliest BC you have? I was starting to clean out the spare parts bin to get ready to list some stuff on the marketplace and found this. And upon closer inspection, they look like this. I'm curious about the lower one in the photo. __________________ "The drinking will continue until morale improves" Last edited by hydrotx; February 24, 2006 at 18:55.

February 23, 2006, 20:24	#3
boman Registered FALaholic #: 395 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: In Posts: 312	It's Belgian and if it's from an STG it was made for the original Austrian contract which was in the early sixties __________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin-1759

February 23, 2006, 21:25	#4
EMDII Evil Moderator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 6 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 13,971	All 20K StG were built in 1958. No guesses. __________________ "The Spartans do not enquire how many enemy there are. The SPartans merely enquire WHERE they are." E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II 1*

February 24, 2006, 17:18	#5
Bigger_Is_Better Registered FALaholic #: 4906 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Battlefield, MO Posts: 3,922	Here's number 957. __________________ "bipity, bopity, bacon!" Jim Gaffigan When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Science has questions that can't be answered. Religion has answers that can't be questioned.

February 24, 2006, 18:53	#6
hydrotx Registered FALaholic #: 37 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: PA for now Posts: 1,414	Bastage. You win. Lets see how low we can go!!! Time to change the thread name. __________________ "The drinking will continue until morale improves"

February 23, 2006, 19:59	#2
GMB74 Member Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 7987 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Vermont Posts: 318	I have a bolt in my spare parts box- s/n 4191. It's a single- cam bolt. Is yours a single- cam carrier?

February 24, 2006, 19:01	#7
mojo_matic banned - trolling marketplace FALaholic #: 12363 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New Carlisle, IN Posts: 3,257	I have a matching Belgian bolt and carrier...serial # 303. It came installed in a missmatched STG58 build. The bolt uses a two piece extractor, and I believe is dual cam. Taking this into consideration, just because the serial number is low, doesn't necessarily mean that the parts are "earlier." Anyone have some rarly single cam bolt/carrier sets, with one piece extractor?

February 24, 2006, 19:03	#8
Bigger_Is_Better Registered FALaholic #: 4906 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Battlefield, MO Posts: 3,922	LOL...those numbers don't seem to make them any more valuable. I tried to sell this awhile back without even a bite!! I've never played let's see whose is smallest I mean lower before!! Aaron __________________ "bipity, bopity, bacon!" Jim Gaffigan When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Science has questions that can't be answered. Religion has answers that can't be questioned.

February 24, 2006, 19:04	#9
Bigger_Is_Better Registered FALaholic #: 4906 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Battlefield, MO Posts: 3,922	OH, forgot...this is a G1 bolt carrier. __________________ "bipity, bopity, bacon!" Jim Gaffigan When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Science has questions that can't be answered. Religion has answers that can't be questioned.

February 24, 2006, 21:11	#10
neminion Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 7584 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 320	176 - STG58 complete rifle, original finish (thanks Boman!) Have 2 single-cam Type A BCs/Bolt sets complete and unserialized. EX1 sells them. Look new, unissued. They are in my C1 kits.

February 24, 2006, 21:12	#11
NZ L1A1 Collector Moderator & Collectaholic FALaholic #: 45 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,882	Ohhhhhh well if we want to play like this........... I have a bolt carrier that was made in 1953 ............. do I win? __________________ Rifle, 7.62 mm, L1A1 Collector & Researcher. NEW ZEALAND

February 24, 2006, 22:50	#13
bill3542 Registered FALaholic #: 5675 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Co.PA Posts: 1,715	well 8967 from my first build which is a F.N. proofed STG-58 kit aint gonna do it. __________________ BILL H

February 25, 2006, 00:07	#14
chrsdwns Registered FALaholic #: 9846 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,574	I have one Belgian set with three digits on it. Don't know what they are because they are in some obscure Middle Eastern or Asian script. Kind of cool and the only ones I've ever seen. NZ L1A1 Collector, I'll bite on that one. Is the carrier perhaps connected to a set of parts resembeling a FAL that were also produced in 1953? Perhaps a photo would help.

February 25, 2006, 01:19	#15
MAG58 Registered FALaholic #: 18883 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Jasper, IN Posts: 603	2006 G1 Carrier __________________ Never drink & drive, always have a designated driver take you to the range.

February 25, 2006, 08:05	#16
Falcon FAL Cognoscenti Contributor FALaholic #: 2049 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,768	Here's one I have along with a early lugged firing pin. __________________ Nicht Amboss Sondern Hammer

February 25, 2006, 20:45	#17
GMB74 Member Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 7987 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Vermont Posts: 318	Interesting! The firing pin in my bolt looks like a standard pin- not lugged like yours. Mine has a two-piece extractor also. Do single-cam bolts require a single-cam bolt carrier to work properly, or can you use a later double- cam carrier with no problems? Are the carriers even different?

March 31, 2010, 23:15	#19
Bigger_Is_Better Registered FALaholic #: 4906 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Battlefield, MO Posts: 3,922	Does anyone know what the A on Falcon's carrier means? I have Serial number 252 with the A. Aaron __________________ "bipity, bopity, bacon!" Jim Gaffigan When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Science has questions that can't be answered. Religion has answers that can't be questioned.

April 03, 2010, 10:39	#20
johnny.308 Veteran Member Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 32261 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Der Hafen, Midgard Posts: 1,171	And I thought my #991 was early. __________________ God bless the American people and keep your powder dry. "Cry "havoc," let slip the dogs of war." Marc Anthony, Shakespear's Julius Caesar "Ignorance can be cured, but stupid is forever and often fatal." Unknown

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