Receiver Wrenches

Sawacs · August 06, 2001, 11:03

I was wondering if the receiver wrench sold by DSA is the same as the one sold by Casey? Or, does DSA have their own version?

Thanks, Shawn

jimmieZ · August 06, 2001, 11:19

The DSA receiver wrench is made by AGI (American Gnsmith Institute) and is OK - I have been using one for over a year now. I liked the price (and still do) - you do have to line the thing with plastic tape to keep from marking your receiver. I've barreled over 7, now, and it shows no wear and, when lined with tape, hasn't marked any of the receivers it was used on.

Jim Z

Radio · August 06, 2001, 16:00

A Chevy Sprint will get you from point A to point B. So will a Cadillac Fleetwood. I'd rather be in the Cadillac. Casey Elliot, 972-790-2636.

You can support a stamp-em-out, cookie cutter operation, or you can support a dedicated vendor who invented the FAL receiver wrench from plans given to him by God. I'd rather be in the Cadillac. Casey Elliot, 972-790-2636.

--Radio

(just kidding, Lord)

**EMDII** · August 06, 2001, 16:04

Rod Taylor of TaylorWerkes also makes a phenomenal wrench.

Taylor Werkes: sub-MOA FALs and gargantuan receiver wrenches

Batman · August 06, 2001, 16:10

Hey Ted, can you put the wrench into a vice like Elliots?

**EMDII** · August 06, 2001, 16:25

You'll have to ask Rod that Q. I've talked a lot w/ Rod, and seen one wrench, but I am not a builder by any means.

It appears that it can be used in the vice, but that long handle begs me to lock-up the barrel, and use the wrench to rotate the receiver about the barrel. Rod builds sub-MOA FALs this way, so he must think the stress issues are not show-stoppers.

Ugh · August 07, 2001, 07:58

I thought Gunplumber had some for sale also?

medicmike · August 07, 2001, 09:33

I made my own receiver wrench out of a 1" thick chunk of aluminum. Painted one side with layout fluid and scribed the outline of the face of the reciever on it. Next I milled out a hole the shape of the reciever (could use a drill, file, dremel or whetever to remove the material). Drilled holes on either side for the clamping bolts. Cut it in two on the bottom side. Tapped the holes. Drilled a hole at the top of the wrench and filed it out square for a 1/2" drive torque wrench.

Derby FALs · August 21, 2001, 21:30

Anyone know what is up with Casey? I haven't been able to reach him. Left messages and sent emails and nada.

KHz · August 21, 2001, 22:52

He is around. I bought a wrench from him in person on Friday and it works perfectly.

Biskit1 · August 21, 2001, 22:58

I received an email from him that a family member was in the hospital and he wasn't around much. If you email him, I'm sure he'll answer.

Tom

**TFA303** · August 22, 2001, 10:30

When you use a receiver wrench, must you keep the bolt carrier in the receiver, or is that only when putting the receiver in a vise?

Tom

ByronF · August 22, 2001, 10:47

The AGI wrench is just torch-cut plate steel. A beautiful torch job, but a torch job just the same. Even a very good torch table operator (I fancied myself one for a while) cannot avoid the serrated texture on the cut. The AGI cuts are crisp, perpendicular to the plane of the steel, but still slightly serrated. In fact, they don't even knock off the super hard scale that is produced from the cutting operation. The plate surfaces still wear the scale from the plate rolling process, too. Unpainted, unrefined. An AGI wrench marked my receiver, with my assistance of course. I didn't use tape.

My Elliot wrench is baby smooth all over. It's been blasted and parked. Doesn't mark receivers, but I used tape with it anyhow.

Byron

R.Taylor · August 22, 2001, 18:25

You may put my wrench in a vise if you choose, BUT it was designed to be used with a barrel vise. If it is clamped in vise, make sure that the allen screws are VERY tight.
The wrench weighs about 5 lbs, and has a 21" handle for leverage. I would use soft jaws though, or the vise will leave marks on the wrench.

I always clamp the barrel and spin the wrench, although one could perform the opposite. I believe that it is best to use a barrel vise as opposed to using the barrel flats on the barrel. Large amounts of pressure on the shoulder flats usually round edges.

Part of this issue relates to the amount of torque at TDC. FALs are mass produced, therefore, they are designed to be safe/headspaced/timed with minimum/maximum tolerances. This may facilitate large numbers of weapons, but does nothing to enhance individual accuracy.

In other words, more lbs of torque at TDC helps accuracy, in my opinion. This is not possible using the barrel flats for installation.

RT

August 06, 2001, 11:03	#1
Sawacs Registered FALaholic #: 979 Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 89	Receiver Wrenches I was wondering if the receiver wrench sold by DSA is the same as the one sold by Casey? Or, does DSA have their own version? Thanks, Shawn

August 06, 2001, 16:00	#3
Radio Registered FALaholic #: 263 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Eastern Washington State Posts: 9,868	A Chevy Sprint will get you from point A to point B. So will a Cadillac Fleetwood. I'd rather be in the Cadillac. Casey Elliot, 972-790-2636. You can support a stamp-em-out, cookie cutter operation, or you can support a dedicated vendor who invented the FAL receiver wrench from plans given to him by God. I'd rather be in the Cadillac. Casey Elliot, 972-790-2636. --Radio (just kidding, Lord) __________________ Train Like You Fight: Second PLace is NOT an Option. --E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II* "You seem to fantasize about me a lot. Maybe you should tell your boyfriend? He could dress up like me or something." --*K.O.A.M.*, November 9th, 2009 "You're better off hoping she don't miss, it's quicker that way." --ce, December 15, 2009

August 06, 2001, 16:04	#4
EMDII Evil Moderator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 6 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 13,971	Rod Taylor of TaylorWerkes also makes a phenomenal wrench. Taylor Werkes: sub-MOA FALs and gargantuan receiver wrenches __________________ "The Spartans do not enquire how many enemy there are. The SPartans merely enquire WHERE they are." E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II 1*

August 06, 2001, 16:10	#5
Batman Registered FALaholic #: 513 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: SE, Michigan Posts: 2,048	Hey Ted, can you put the wrench into a vice like Elliots? __________________ Say what you mean and mean what you say. Those who are silent are understood to consent.

August 06, 2001, 16:25	#6
EMDII Evil Moderator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 6 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 13,971	You'll have to ask Rod that Q. I've talked a lot w/ Rod, and seen one wrench, but I am not a builder by any means. It appears that it can be used in the vice, but that long handle begs me to lock-up the barrel, and use the wrench to rotate the receiver about the barrel. Rod builds sub-MOA FALs this way, so he must think the stress issues are not show-stoppers. __________________ "The Spartans do not enquire how many enemy there are. The SPartans merely enquire WHERE they are." E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II 1*

August 06, 2001, 11:19	#2
jimmieZ Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 319 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Marietta, GA, USA Posts: 651	The DSA receiver wrench is made by AGI (American Gnsmith Institute) and is OK - I have been using one for over a year now. I liked the price (and still do) - you do have to line the thing with plastic tape to keep from marking your receiver. I've barreled over 7, now, and it shows no wear and, when lined with tape, hasn't marked any of the receivers it was used on. Jim Z

August 07, 2001, 07:58	#7
Ugh Registered FALaholic #: 3267 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Commonwealth of PA Posts: 326	I thought Gunplumber had some for sale also?

August 07, 2001, 09:33	#8
medicmike Registered FALaholic #: 3183 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 2,270	I made my own receiver wrench out of a 1" thick chunk of aluminum. Painted one side with layout fluid and scribed the outline of the face of the reciever on it. Next I milled out a hole the shape of the reciever (could use a drill, file, dremel or whetever to remove the material). Drilled holes on either side for the clamping bolts. Cut it in two on the bottom side. Tapped the holes. Drilled a hole at the top of the wrench and filed it out square for a 1/2" drive torque wrench. __________________ "Stand your ground. Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here." Captain John Parker at Lexington Green

August 21, 2001, 21:30	#9
Derby FALs Supreme Leader FALaholic #: 2361 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 2,610	Anyone know what is up with Casey? I haven't been able to reach him. Left messages and sent emails and nada. __________________ “Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add "within the limits of the law" because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.” - Thomas Jefferson Salami, salami, baloney... :bow: http://www.derbyfals.com/home.htm

August 21, 2001, 22:52	#10
KHz Registered FALaholic #: 3684 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 90	He is around. I bought a wrench from him in person on Friday and it works perfectly.

August 21, 2001, 22:58	#11
Biskit1 Registered FALaholic #: 2493 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Pleasant Grove, UT USA Posts: 82	I received an email from him that a family member was in the hospital and he wasn't around much. If you email him, I'm sure he'll answer. Tom

August 22, 2001, 10:30	#12
TFA303 Veteran Member Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 1300 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Northern AL Posts: 1,344	When you use a receiver wrench, must you keep the bolt carrier in the receiver, or is that only when putting the receiver in a vise? Tom __________________ There is a fine line between a "hobby" and a "mental disorder".

August 22, 2001, 10:47	#13
ByronF Registered FALaholic #: 630 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: PA Posts: 3,174	The AGI wrench is just torch-cut plate steel. A beautiful torch job, but a torch job just the same. Even a very good torch table operator (I fancied myself one for a while) cannot avoid the serrated texture on the cut. The AGI cuts are crisp, perpendicular to the plane of the steel, but still slightly serrated. In fact, they don't even knock off the super hard scale that is produced from the cutting operation. The plate surfaces still wear the scale from the plate rolling process, too. Unpainted, unrefined. An AGI wrench marked my receiver, with my assistance of course. I didn't use tape. My Elliot wrench is baby smooth all over. It's been blasted and parked. Doesn't mark receivers, but I used tape with it anyhow. Byron

August 22, 2001, 18:25	#14
R.Taylor Registered FALaholic #: 2533 Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 11	You may put my wrench in a vise if you choose, BUT it was designed to be used with a barrel vise. If it is clamped in vise, make sure that the allen screws are VERY tight. The wrench weighs about 5 lbs, and has a 21" handle for leverage. I would use soft jaws though, or the vise will leave marks on the wrench. I always clamp the barrel and spin the wrench, although one could perform the opposite. I believe that it is best to use a barrel vise as opposed to using the barrel flats on the barrel. Large amounts of pressure on the shoulder flats usually round edges. Part of this issue relates to the amount of torque at TDC. FALs are mass produced, therefore, they are designed to be safe/headspaced/timed with minimum/maximum tolerances. This may facilitate large numbers of weapons, but does nothing to enhance individual accuracy. In other words, more lbs of torque at TDC helps accuracy, in my opinion. This is not possible using the barrel flats for installation. RT

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