Brit. L1 finish

Batman · November 27, 2001, 10:33

I'm in the process of completing my British L1 project and now I'm faced with dealing with the finish. I, beleave it or not, like the black gloss Brit. finish and would like to match it. What is it and who sells it? Thanks,

Dan at VOW · November 27, 2001, 10:42

Hey Batman, IIRC the finish is called Suncorite, and is unavailable in the US due to the EPA. You might want to check out some of the Brownells products, their baking lacquers specifically. I know some folks have used them and been pleased with the results. If you spray it too close you will get a glossy finish, farther away will give you matte. HTH, Dan.

Mike D. · November 27, 2001, 12:41

DSA sells a spray called "British Black" that matches very well. Be sure to bake it after applying.

Mike D.

Templator · November 27, 2001, 12:51

Just a thought, but you may want to check into getting it finished in black oxide. Black oxide is an industrial coating that's very similiar to some gun blue, except that it's very black,.. as the name implies. It doesn't create a grainy texture as a phosphate finish will,.. it pretty much duplicates the gloss or lack or gloss on the part being black oxided. plating shops around here will do a batch quantity for $75. However, here, they won't do firearms because of some bizarre fear of getting in trouble with the feds.

[ November 27, 2001: Message edited by: Templator ]

Batman · November 27, 2001, 22:57

Thanks all,

Dan, is the Suncorite available in Canada? I'm in Michigan right next to Ontario and it takes me about 20 minutes to get there.

Mike D. I don't see the British Black on the DSA web site. Do I have to call them?

Templator, I have many new Brit parts that have a great finish. I also have several parts that are in very bad shape. I want to match the new parts as best I can.

recce · November 27, 2001, 23:41

Batman,

Doubt you'll find any up here, we never used it. It is carcinogenic in liquid form so the chances of importing it are nil. I'd go with the Brownells stuff if I were you, that's what Enfield collectors mainly use to refinish or touch up.

Gawker · November 27, 2001, 23:49

http://www.aa-ok.com/1110f.jpg
www.aa-ok.com has the stuff.

Double G Gunsmithing · November 28, 2001, 00:47

Hey Batman !

I do know this from living back there,

Screw the paint in Canada, get the CUBAN CIGARS !!

Sincerely, George L. Gouger
Life Member NRA Since 1969 www.doubleggunsmithing.com

**BUFF** · November 28, 2001, 01:14

"...Cuban cigars!" LOL, George.

Now, fire up that Dremel and get back to work on my rifles!

shortround · November 28, 2001, 01:23

Batman, come summer, you get the cubans and we'll take my boat over to Crystal Bay and watch the Canadian ladies while we smoke them! LOL Seriously, I have an L1A1 finished in Metacol III black which looks really close to some original parts I have on hand. Probably will wear better too.

[ November 28, 2001: Message edited by: shortround ]

**Andy the Aussie** · November 28, 2001, 01:28

Dunno about the Brits but the Aussies used what ever crappy gloss paint they could get cheap down at the $2 Shop.

Andy

And errrrrrr Monica.....pass me that Cuban will you luv...

[ November 28, 2001: Message edited by: Andy the Aussie ]

Mike D. · November 28, 2001, 07:08

DSA has the paint but it is in their catalog, not on the web. Call them to order.

Mike D.

Batman · November 29, 2001, 16:23

Quote:

Originally posted by Double G Gunsmithing:
Hey Batman !

I do know this from living back there,

Screw the paint in Canada, get the CUBAN CIGARS !!

Sincerely, George L. Gouger
Life Member NRA Since 1969 www.doubleggunsmithing.com

Hey Grorge, How about I trade you Cuban Cigars in exchange for you building up my C2!

I'm Serious, I can get all the Cuban I want no problem.

I should do a group buy on Cubans (LOL).

OK class, CAN YOU SAY "COHIBA"

Gawker, thanks for the link

Sumoj275 · November 29, 2001, 20:08

I can, a couple times. Cohiba, Cohiba, Cohiba. Do I get my prize for saying three times

Derby FALs · November 29, 2001, 20:47

DSA has it on the web. #660 on the Schematics Page

Batman · November 29, 2001, 22:32

Quote:

Originally posted by DerbyFALs:
DSA has it on the web. #660 on the Schematics Page

Hey thanks Derby!! Now I see it! Will be calling in the a.m.

Thanks guys!

November 27, 2001, 10:33	#1
Batman Registered FALaholic #: 513 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: SE, Michigan Posts: 2,048	Brit. L1 finish I'm in the process of completing my British L1 project and now I'm faced with dealing with the finish. I, beleave it or not, like the black gloss Brit. finish and would like to match it. What is it and who sells it? Thanks, __________________ Say what you mean and mean what you say. Those who are silent are understood to consent.

November 27, 2001, 12:41	#3
Mike D. Registered FALaholic #: 3269 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 84	DSA sells a spray called "British Black" that matches very well. Be sure to bake it after applying. Mike D. __________________ TX-FNFAL A brigade of one

November 27, 2001, 12:51	#4
Templator Registered FALaholic #: 4460 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Lexington Posts: 1,760	Just a thought, but you may want to check into getting it finished in black oxide. Black oxide is an industrial coating that's very similiar to some gun blue, except that it's very black,.. as the name implies. It doesn't create a grainy texture as a phosphate finish will,.. it pretty much duplicates the gloss or lack or gloss on the part being black oxided. plating shops around here will do a batch quantity for $75. However, here, they won't do firearms because of some bizarre fear of getting in trouble with the feds. [ November 27, 2001: Message edited by: Templator ] __________________ I look with commiseration upon the great body of my fellow Americans who, reading newspapers, live and die in the belief that they have known something of what has passed in the world around them. Harry Truman

November 27, 2001, 22:57	#5
Batman Registered FALaholic #: 513 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: SE, Michigan Posts: 2,048	Thanks all, Dan, is the Suncorite available in Canada? I'm in Michigan right next to Ontario and it takes me about 20 minutes to get there. Mike D. I don't see the British Black on the DSA web site. Do I have to call them? Templator, I have many new Brit parts that have a great finish. I also have several parts that are in very bad shape. I want to match the new parts as best I can. __________________ Say what you mean and mean what you say. Those who are silent are understood to consent.

November 28, 2001, 00:47	#8
Double G Gunsmithing Locked Account FALaholic #: 983 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Eugene, Oregon Posts: 543	Hey Batman ! I do know this from living back there, Screw the paint in Canada, get the CUBAN CIGARS !! Sincerely, George L. Gouger Life Member NRA Since 1969 www.doubleggunsmithing.com __________________ Life Member NRA Since 1969 http://www.doubleggunsmithing.com

November 27, 2001, 10:42	#2
Dan at VOW Registered FALaholic #: 191 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Cleveland, TN. CSA Posts: 1,011	Hey Batman, IIRC the finish is called Suncorite, and is unavailable in the US due to the EPA. You might want to check out some of the Brownells products, their baking lacquers specifically. I know some folks have used them and been pleased with the results. If you spray it too close you will get a glossy finish, farther away will give you matte. HTH, Dan.

November 27, 2001, 23:41	#6
recce Registered FALaholic #: 153 Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 865	Batman, Doubt you'll find any up here, we never used it. It is carcinogenic in liquid form so the chances of importing it are nil. I'd go with the Brownells stuff if I were you, that's what Enfield collectors mainly use to refinish or touch up.

November 27, 2001, 23:49	#7
Gawker Registered FALaholic #: 1179 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: West Coast Posts: 45	http://www.aa-ok.com/1110f.jpg www.aa-ok.com has the stuff.

November 28, 2001, 01:14	#9
BUFF Old Fart Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 789 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 7,141	"...Cuban cigars!" LOL, George. Now, fire up that Dremel and get back to work on my rifles! __________________ BUFF

November 28, 2001, 01:23	#10
shortround Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 1503 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Southeast, MI, USA Posts: 2,799	Batman, come summer, you get the cubans and we'll take my boat over to Crystal Bay and watch the Canadian ladies while we smoke them! LOL Seriously, I have an L1A1 finished in Metacol III black which looks really close to some original parts I have on hand. Probably will wear better too. [ November 28, 2001: Message edited by: shortround ] __________________ Nostalgia: It's just not what it used to be. I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure. To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target. Someone asked if I was a procrastinator and I told them I wasn't sure but I'd get back with them tomorrow.

November 28, 2001, 07:08	#12
Mike D. Registered FALaholic #: 3269 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 84	DSA has the paint but it is in their catalog, not on the web. Call them to order. Mike D. __________________ TX-FNFAL A brigade of one

November 29, 2001, 20:08	#14
Sumoj275 Registered FALaholic #: 3417 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: OKLAHOMA Posts: 1,454	I can, a couple times. Cohiba, Cohiba, Cohiba. Do I get my prize for saying three times

November 29, 2001, 20:47	#15
Derby FALs Supreme Leader FALaholic #: 2361 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 2,610	DSA has it on the web. #660 on the Schematics Page __________________ “Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add "within the limits of the law" because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.” - Thomas Jefferson Salami, salami, baloney... :bow: http://www.derbyfals.com/home.htm

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