i want a 22 lr hb

splattermatic · November 27, 2005, 21:57

i want to get another 22 lr., whats a super accurate model that isn't going to cost an arm and a leg ??

i am thinking of a marlin 980v clip fed bolt action..
i do not want a semi auto, but a bolt action..

anything else out there that's a bolt action ,accurate, and cheap..ie, under 250 bucks ??

Temp · November 27, 2005, 22:00

CZ 453 varmint

http://www.czusa.com/01.detail.php?id=68

but not under $250,...msrp is something obnoxious,... but in reality they can be had for about 375,....

Mr. Pink · November 27, 2005, 22:03

although ammo is still a bit pricy, ya might want to consider one of the .17's The 917v is kinda chincy construction wise but mine still shoots pretty good.

'TUDE · November 27, 2005, 22:12

All my other .22 rifles sit in the safe while I shoot my Romanian M69 as first choice. Used it tonight on a possum and it is damn accurate. For $69, it has been the best .22 purchase I have ever made.

firefuzz · November 27, 2005, 22:25

Look real hard at the CZ series. I did some research a couple of months ago on the same type of rifle and these are what I found to the the most gun for the best price.
I wish the new Remington was cheaper but it's not.

Rob

vmtz · November 27, 2005, 23:05

Get a Ruger 10/22. Lots of parts out there and you can build it however you want .

Vince

Windustsearch · November 28, 2005, 01:25

I had a Marlin bolt .22lr, and also knew others who did. A friend of mine (who had one) and I tried grouping them one day (actually shooting paper!). We used all kinds of ammo, the guns were lousy. You'd be better off finding an older Remington or Winchester. The old ones will outshoot that micro-groove crap anyday.

Prototype Services · November 28, 2005, 03:19

I have an old Russian CM-2. I saw EAA was selling them recently. I don't know the EAA price. I gave about $250 for mine. It has a date of 1952, and the old guy selling off stuff at the gunshow said it was an Olympic "prone" rifle. Stock looks a lot like the Anshutz prone rifles.
Single shot bolt action, heavy freefloat barrel, infinitely adjustable trigger. Even when I set it lighter than the 2-OZ 40X trigger I had, it still breaks cleanly. With CCI greenlabel it will put every shot through a tiny ragged hole at 25 yards.
I like it.

Dave

rq375 · November 28, 2005, 06:07

CZ 452/3 American for a mag fed bolt action, and an H&R M12 for a single shot.

splattermatic · November 28, 2005, 06:12

i have several 22's right now, but the model 60 semi auto (my favorite) and the old single shots, along with the mossberg model 35 (?) are not suitable for what i want to do as a little quiet project...

i am looking for a bolt action, clip fed, hb .22...for subsonics....so the attachtment doesnt look so bulky on the end...

gonna get one so i might as well get 2...

a semi like a ruger 10/22 makes too much action noise..

Windustsearch · November 28, 2005, 07:36

We could never get those Marlins to group better than an inch or an inch and a half at about 20yds.

Unfortunately, the BSA is all but gone and along with them went the accurate and cheap .22s. One that will really shoot like a Remmy will cost more like $400 brand new these days. The CZ always looked interesting, but I've never shot one.

**bykerhd** · November 28, 2005, 08:18

Ruger 10/22, secondhand(or third). Get a target (.920 diameter) barrel of your choosing. Hog out the factory stock for the barrel and you are good to go. You would lose the barrel band and forward of the stock from it if that bothers you. There are tons of aftermarket stocks to work with those barrels that aren't all that expensive. With decent ammo, almost any of the heavy barrels will shoot better than the average shooter could hope to. Factory triggers suck, but those are easily replaced or upgraded. Lots of scope mounst available.

BAUDER BUNCH · November 28, 2005, 13:33

I own several 22's and still go back to my Mossberg US M44. It's a US military trainer from WWII that has good sights. Fun to shoot old military stuff. Most can be found at Gun Shows for a couple hundred bucks for a very good one. I have two, one is new in the wrapper. Saving it for one of my grand kids. For a bit more money look for an old Winchester 52. Have fun.

jaykden · November 28, 2005, 16:14

hey splatt, check out savage. i have one of these little HBs in .22LR and with greentag ammo, and most other match stuff, it shoots around a 1/4" at 50 yrds. it costed 200 bucks shipped and with the ffl transfer fee.

http://www.savagearms.com/markiifv.htm

renaissance_warrior · November 28, 2005, 16:23

A Remington 52-D would fill the bill for sure. They are at virtually every gun show, last forever and will probably increase rather than decrease with time. Opt for one with Williams micro rear and you have a true tack driver. I've seen them all over the board in price. Back in 2003 the CMP was selling them as well. Might want to see if they have anything else headed their way.

Mark

Mr. Pink · November 28, 2005, 16:26

well if it has to be a cheap, HB, clip fed, 22lr, and bolt action the only thing I can think of is the $150 tula that aim is selling. The barrel is more medium weight than heavy but it is free floated and a scope rail is included. They have a pretty good rep as far as accuracy goes but I can't say for sure as I don't have one.

A model 52 (winchester - I don't know bout the remmy) would be awesome but I don't think you'll find too many around for $250.

Consider an air rifle, they work great and can be quite powerful once you start spending in the 200 range......but I guess that is no good for the clip fed requirement.

So what you got squirrel problems or sum-ting?

BAUDER BUNCH · November 28, 2005, 17:23

I own several 22's and still go back to my Mossberg US M44. It's a US military trainer from WWII that has good sights. Fun to shoot old military stuff. Most can be found at Gun Shows for a couple hundred bucks for a very good one. I have two, one is new in the wrapper. Saving it for one of my grand kids. For a bit more money look for an old Winchester 52. Have fun.

**perryturner** · November 28, 2005, 19:03

I know you said bolt, but how about a Ruger 96-22 lever? Mine has a Norrel intergal suppressor on it.

splattermatic · November 28, 2005, 20:49

ahhhh,
mr perryturner, you have hit the nail right on the head..
with the suppressor.....

i am wanting a hb so that the can will not be so obvious on the end...
i want it to look like a longgggg barreled 22...

not a skinny barrel with a can...

how bout a ruger 77/22...scrap the factory skinny barrel and get a hb replacement from brownells, or another dealer.....???

who's got one and hows it shoot ???

mr. pink,
no not really, just praire dogs,and ? for when i get em close and want to be sneaky about what i'm doing...

plus the cool factor and starting the grandkids off well...

**bykerhd** · November 28, 2005, 21:08

I've seen suppressed Ruger 10/22s advertised. They look like heavy barrel guns. The same folks probably do 77/22s, but I don't remember having seen one. I'm wondering if you used sub-sonic ammo in a heavy and/or long barreled bolt action .22 if you even need a suppressor.

**perryturner** · November 28, 2005, 21:22

I don't really know how accurate my 96-22 is. It's deadly on clay pigeons on the berm at about 25 yards. Apperance wise, it looks like a target barrel. But it's all suppressor. IIRC, Norrel charged $385 to do it. He's the only one that would do the 96-22. Several other people will do the bolt guns. I opted for the lever as I'm left handed.

Might be wrong, but I don't think you're going to get a barrel that's as large a diameter as a suppressor. A shooting buddy has a bunch of screw on cans, but I haven't paid much attention to the size. In response to questions, he's posted pics of some of them at http://subguns.com/boards/mgmsg.cgi If you go there looking for the pics, do a search for messages posted by "Toad"

**perryturner** · November 28, 2005, 21:31

bykerhd - depends on how quiet you want it. I can't quantify the difference, but someone at http://subguns.com/boards/mgmsg.cgi probably has the numbers.

I've also got a full auto integrally suppressed 10-22. THe loudest thing on it is the bolt reciprocating. That's why I have the other one.

splattermatic · November 30, 2005, 05:21

okay got it...
a marlin model 25...gonna have it cut back to 18" and threaded.....

now the waiting begins...

but at least i'll get to shoot it til the can comes in..

November 27, 2005, 21:57	#1
splattermatic "THUG" MODERATOR FALaholic #: 2223 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: southwestern,usa Posts: 6,791	i want a 22 lr hb i want to get another 22 lr., whats a super accurate model that isn't going to cost an arm and a leg ?? i am thinking of a marlin 980v clip fed bolt action.. i do not want a semi auto, but a bolt action.. anything else out there that's a bolt action ,accurate, and cheap..ie, under 250 bucks ?? __________________ the worst thing about making it to middle age, is watching people you know and love, start dying off. i miss you cubby 10-10-08 kim, thanks for being my friend.

November 27, 2005, 22:00	#2
Temp Registered FALaholic #: 10384 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: right of center Posts: 4,212	CZ 453 varmint http://www.czusa.com/01.detail.php?id=68 but not under $250,...msrp is something obnoxious,... but in reality they can be had for about 375,.... __________________ Among the worst aspects of the collapse of traditional conservatism is that my children will grow up in a world in which vulgar and belligerent nationalism will be presented to them as the alternative to leftism.

November 27, 2005, 22:03	#3
Mr. Pink Registered FALaholic #: 2152 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: B'ham Posts: 518	although ammo is still a bit pricy, ya might want to consider one of the .17's The 917v is kinda chincy construction wise but mine still shoots pretty good. __________________ We all got it comin' kid. - W Munny People should know when they are conquered. Would you, Quintus? Would I?

November 27, 2005, 22:12	#4
'TUDE Registered FALaholic #: 704 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: N.Texas Posts: 6,491	All my other .22 rifles sit in the safe while I shoot my Romanian M69 as first choice. Used it tonight on a possum and it is damn accurate. For $69, it has been the best .22 purchase I have ever made. __________________ http://smokefreequitmeter.com/index....nner/39345.png [/url]

November 27, 2005, 22:25	#5
firefuzz Registered FALaholic #: 15340 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,647	Look real hard at the CZ series. I did some research a couple of months ago on the same type of rifle and these are what I found to the the most gun for the best price. I wish the new Remington was cheaper but it's not. Rob __________________ May your rifle always shoot straight, your mag never run dry, you always have one more round than you have adversaries, and your good mate always be there to watch your back. I'm not anti-anything...but I am PRO Christian, PRO American, and I'm not ashamed of being white.

November 27, 2005, 23:05	#6
vmtz FALaholic #: 1125 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Here right now Posts: 17,638	Get a Ruger 10/22. Lots of parts out there and you can build it however you want . Vince

November 28, 2005, 01:25	#7
Windustsearch Registered FALaholic #: 10219 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Seattle,Wa Posts: 5,696	I had a Marlin bolt .22lr, and also knew others who did. A friend of mine (who had one) and I tried grouping them one day (actually shooting paper!). We used all kinds of ammo, the guns were lousy. You'd be better off finding an older Remington or Winchester. The old ones will outshoot that micro-groove crap anyday.

November 28, 2005, 03:19	#8
Prototype Services Registered FALaholic #: 3935 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Gainesville Georgia 30501 Posts: 2,067	I have an old Russian CM-2. I saw EAA was selling them recently. I don't know the EAA price. I gave about $250 for mine. It has a date of 1952, and the old guy selling off stuff at the gunshow said it was an Olympic "prone" rifle. Stock looks a lot like the Anshutz prone rifles. Single shot bolt action, heavy freefloat barrel, infinitely adjustable trigger. Even when I set it lighter than the 2-OZ 40X trigger I had, it still breaks cleanly. With CCI greenlabel it will put every shot through a tiny ragged hole at 25 yards. I like it. Dave __________________ ''Life's tough.....it's even tougher if you're stupid.'' ~ John Wayne

November 28, 2005, 06:07	#9
rq375 Registered FALaholic #: 17756 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 303	CZ 452/3 American for a mag fed bolt action, and an H&R M12 for a single shot.

November 28, 2005, 06:12	#10
splattermatic "THUG" MODERATOR FALaholic #: 2223 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: southwestern,usa Posts: 6,791	i have several 22's right now, but the model 60 semi auto (my favorite) and the old single shots, along with the mossberg model 35 (?) are not suitable for what i want to do as a little quiet project... i am looking for a bolt action, clip fed, hb .22...for subsonics....so the attachtment doesnt look so bulky on the end... gonna get one so i might as well get 2... a semi like a ruger 10/22 makes too much action noise.. __________________ the worst thing about making it to middle age, is watching people you know and love, start dying off. i miss you cubby 10-10-08 kim, thanks for being my friend.

November 28, 2005, 07:36	#11
Windustsearch Registered FALaholic #: 10219 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Seattle,Wa Posts: 5,696	We could never get those Marlins to group better than an inch or an inch and a half at about 20yds. Unfortunately, the BSA is all but gone and along with them went the accurate and cheap .22s. One that will really shoot like a Remmy will cost more like $400 brand new these days. The CZ always looked interesting, but I've never shot one.

November 28, 2005, 08:18	#12
bykerhd Dinosaur Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 2798 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burlington Vermont area Posts: 13,262	Ruger 10/22, secondhand(or third). Get a target (.920 diameter) barrel of your choosing. Hog out the factory stock for the barrel and you are good to go. You would lose the barrel band and forward of the stock from it if that bothers you. There are tons of aftermarket stocks to work with those barrels that aren't all that expensive. With decent ammo, almost any of the heavy barrels will shoot better than the average shooter could hope to. Factory triggers suck, but those are easily replaced or upgraded. Lots of scope mounst available.

November 28, 2005, 13:33	#13
BAUDER BUNCH Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 17440 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Shelton Washington Posts: 102	I own several 22's and still go back to my Mossberg US M44. It's a US military trainer from WWII that has good sights. Fun to shoot old military stuff. Most can be found at Gun Shows for a couple hundred bucks for a very good one. I have two, one is new in the wrapper. Saving it for one of my grand kids. For a bit more money look for an old Winchester 52. Have fun.

November 28, 2005, 16:14	#14
jaykden Moderator Resident Alaskan FALaholic #: 3800 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: sitka, ak Posts: 4,220	hey splatt, check out savage. i have one of these little HBs in .22LR and with greentag ammo, and most other match stuff, it shoots around a 1/4" at 50 yrds. it costed 200 bucks shipped and with the ffl transfer fee. http://www.savagearms.com/markiifv.htm __________________ In a family of fudds, i'm the black sheep of the family...... EBR black, that is...

November 28, 2005, 16:23	#15
renaissance_warrior Registered FALaholic #: 13689 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 8,558	A Remington 52-D would fill the bill for sure. They are at virtually every gun show, last forever and will probably increase rather than decrease with time. Opt for one with Williams micro rear and you have a true tack driver. I've seen them all over the board in price. Back in 2003 the CMP was selling them as well. Might want to see if they have anything else headed their way. Mark __________________ "In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot." - Mark Twain “The government turns every contingency into an excuse for enhancing power in itself.” - John Adams "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed, lest Rome becomes bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." ~ Cicero , 55 BC ~

November 28, 2005, 16:26	#16
Mr. Pink Registered FALaholic #: 2152 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: B'ham Posts: 518	well if it has to be a cheap, HB, clip fed, 22lr, and bolt action the only thing I can think of is the $150 tula that aim is selling. The barrel is more medium weight than heavy but it is free floated and a scope rail is included. They have a pretty good rep as far as accuracy goes but I can't say for sure as I don't have one. A model 52 (winchester - I don't know bout the remmy) would be awesome but I don't think you'll find too many around for $250. Consider an air rifle, they work great and can be quite powerful once you start spending in the 200 range......but I guess that is no good for the clip fed requirement. So what you got squirrel problems or sum-ting? __________________ We all got it comin' kid. - W Munny People should know when they are conquered. Would you, Quintus? Would I?

November 28, 2005, 17:23	#17
BAUDER BUNCH Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 17440 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Shelton Washington Posts: 102	I own several 22's and still go back to my Mossberg US M44. It's a US military trainer from WWII that has good sights. Fun to shoot old military stuff. Most can be found at Gun Shows for a couple hundred bucks for a very good one. I have two, one is new in the wrapper. Saving it for one of my grand kids. For a bit more money look for an old Winchester 52. Have fun.

November 28, 2005, 19:03	#18
perryturner Senior Member Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 6271 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Seabrook, Texas Posts: 891	I know you said bolt, but how about a Ruger 96-22 lever? Mine has a Norrel intergal suppressor on it.

November 28, 2005, 20:49	#19
splattermatic "THUG" MODERATOR FALaholic #: 2223 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: southwestern,usa Posts: 6,791	ahhhh, mr perryturner, you have hit the nail right on the head.. with the suppressor..... i am wanting a hb so that the can will not be so obvious on the end... i want it to look like a longgggg barreled 22... not a skinny barrel with a can... how bout a ruger 77/22...scrap the factory skinny barrel and get a hb replacement from brownells, or another dealer.....??? who's got one and hows it shoot ??? mr. pink, no not really, just praire dogs,and ? for when i get em close and want to be sneaky about what i'm doing... plus the cool factor and starting the grandkids off well... __________________ the worst thing about making it to middle age, is watching people you know and love, start dying off. i miss you cubby 10-10-08 kim, thanks for being my friend.

November 28, 2005, 21:08	#20
bykerhd Dinosaur Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 2798 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burlington Vermont area Posts: 13,262	I've seen suppressed Ruger 10/22s advertised. They look like heavy barrel guns. The same folks probably do 77/22s, but I don't remember having seen one. I'm wondering if you used sub-sonic ammo in a heavy and/or long barreled bolt action .22 if you even need a suppressor.

November 28, 2005, 21:22	#21
perryturner Senior Member Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 6271 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Seabrook, Texas Posts: 891	I don't really know how accurate my 96-22 is. It's deadly on clay pigeons on the berm at about 25 yards. Apperance wise, it looks like a target barrel. But it's all suppressor. IIRC, Norrel charged $385 to do it. He's the only one that would do the 96-22. Several other people will do the bolt guns. I opted for the lever as I'm left handed. Might be wrong, but I don't think you're going to get a barrel that's as large a diameter as a suppressor. A shooting buddy has a bunch of screw on cans, but I haven't paid much attention to the size. In response to questions, he's posted pics of some of them at http://subguns.com/boards/mgmsg.cgi If you go there looking for the pics, do a search for messages posted by "Toad"

November 28, 2005, 21:31	#22
perryturner Senior Member Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 6271 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Seabrook, Texas Posts: 891	bykerhd - depends on how quiet you want it. I can't quantify the difference, but someone at http://subguns.com/boards/mgmsg.cgi probably has the numbers. I've also got a full auto integrally suppressed 10-22. THe loudest thing on it is the bolt reciprocating. That's why I have the other one.

November 30, 2005, 05:21	#23
splattermatic "THUG" MODERATOR FALaholic #: 2223 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: southwestern,usa Posts: 6,791	okay got it... a marlin model 25...gonna have it cut back to 18" and threaded..... now the waiting begins... but at least i'll get to shoot it til the can comes in.. __________________ the worst thing about making it to middle age, is watching people you know and love, start dying off. i miss you cubby 10-10-08 kim, thanks for being my friend.

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