.223 FAL - last shot bolt hold open?

**W.E.G.** · November 17, 2005, 22:15

Do you folks with .223 FAL's have last-shot bolt-hold-open function on your rifles?

I'd be interested to know whether there is any variation between the SAR-4800 and the Meeper conversion in this regard.

vmtz · November 17, 2005, 22:35

While I don't have it in front of me, I beleive it is the standard BHO.

Vince

creator0203 · November 17, 2005, 23:06

if my fal was in 223. id cry, then sell it and get a 308.

vmtz · November 17, 2005, 23:09

Quote:

Originally posted by creator0203
if my fal was in 223. id cry, then sell it and get a 308.

There are only about a 1000 .223 FAL's in the US. Guess which one is rarest.

Vince

creator0203 · November 17, 2005, 23:44

Quote:

There are only about a 1000 .223 FAL's in the US. Guess which one is rarest.

im sure there is a reason for that

.

**moses** · November 17, 2005, 23:45

Actuaaly I heard that there are less than 500 of the 223 sar 4800's

the serial #'s go a little past 1500 but I heard they started after 1000

the gman · November 17, 2005, 23:54

Well, Mr Creator, when you have almost 60 FAL's & kits, you kinda get tired of .308 all the time & long for something a little different, .223 provides a little diversion from time to time.....

And

back at you!

creator0203 · November 17, 2005, 23:58

true true. well ill tell ya what, you seem to be bored with some of those kits so i guess ill take a few off your hands. heck ill even pay shipping. so if theyare that rare, what does a 223 fal go for?

the gman · November 18, 2005, 00:30

Anywhere from $1100 to $1600 for a genuine SAR 4800. As for the kits? Sorry, all carefully stored ready for the mother of all build parties & the completed rifles most definitely ain't for sale either.

When I get something, it never gets sold or traded, having had guns confiscated by da govt. of the UK, I'm of the firm opinion you can never have too many guns of ANY type.....

Prototype Services · November 18, 2005, 01:24

Gman,
It is now official!
YOU are my HERO!!!

Dave

creator0203 · November 18, 2005, 01:43

oh nonono. i never said sell. i was just going to pay the shipping. i agree, no such thing as too many guns. my wife begs to differ.

euripides · November 18, 2005, 05:38

The Meeper variation in 223 has a modification on the BHO to make it work, on my FAL. It worked quite well after a break-in period for the rifle. HTH, Gary.

**kev** · November 18, 2005, 12:14

Gman, you have my respect as well. I think it's great that you move your life here to the free zone and jump in with both feet. Maybe we can get together sometime and have that MOAB Party. Sounds like we could turn out 100+ between the two of us.

Gary, I have Meeper conversions with both AR15 mags and Bulgarain .223 AK mags. The AR version has a BHO; the AK mag version does not,.....not even manual. That needs to be fixed. I really like the AK version, but handling is complicated and imperfect.

jerrymrc · November 18, 2005, 17:16

Quote:

Originally posted by euripides
The Meeper variation in 223 has a modification on the BHO to make it work, on my FAL. It worked quite well after a break-in period for the rifle. HTH, Gary.

Is yours the orignal style or the newer with the quick change? I know when i had the 7.62X25 built we talked about doing a .223 also. I was going to go with the AK style mag and as I remember there was no BHO option on that one.

The Gman is correct. after a few you want something different. I should be done with the .243 around X-Mas. I take it creator0203 you have never seen a 5.7 lb fal? Its alot of fun and very accurate out to 200 yards.

euripides · November 19, 2005, 08:37

"Is yours the orignal style or the newer with the quick change?"
Mine is single caliber only, built on a Williams receiver and a light weight DSA lower.

Adventurer_96 · November 19, 2005, 17:17

I'll have to check out my rifle when I get back, it sounds like a twin to yours, euripedes.

I still haven't found the digicam cable to post a photo of the magwell adaptor.

November 17, 2005, 22:15	#1
W.E.G. Administrator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 1211 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Virginia Posts: 31,054	.223 FAL - last shot bolt hold open? Do you folks with .223 FAL's have last-shot bolt-hold-open function on your rifles? I'd be interested to know whether there is any variation between the SAR-4800 and the Meeper conversion in this regard. __________________ . . . Ask me about the Mason-Dixon FAL Collectors Association.

November 17, 2005, 23:06	#3
creator0203 Registered FALaholic #: 17864 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: idaho Posts: 904	if my fal was in 223. id cry, then sell it and get a 308. __________________ 5.45 Junkie Why wouldn't you hunt with an FAL? Home is where they understand you. - Garfield "I love my Beater AK" Rivet it and forget it Even my AR spits commie led

November 17, 2005, 23:54	#7
the gman Registered FALaholic #: 5179 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: NM Posts: 4,533	Well, Mr Creator, when you have almost 60 FAL's & kits, you kinda get tired of .308 all the time & long for something a little different, .223 provides a little diversion from time to time..... And back at you! __________________ A sucking chest wound is God's way of telling you that you will take no further part in the firefight. God is on the side, not of the big battalions, but of the best shots- Voltaire “The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." -Alexis de Tocqueville

November 17, 2005, 23:58	#8
creator0203 Registered FALaholic #: 17864 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: idaho Posts: 904	true true. well ill tell ya what, you seem to be bored with some of those kits so i guess ill take a few off your hands. heck ill even pay shipping. so if theyare that rare, what does a 223 fal go for? __________________ 5.45 Junkie Why wouldn't you hunt with an FAL? Home is where they understand you. - Garfield "I love my Beater AK" Rivet it and forget it Even my AR spits commie led

November 18, 2005, 00:30	#9
the gman Registered FALaholic #: 5179 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: NM Posts: 4,533	Anywhere from $1100 to $1600 for a genuine SAR 4800. As for the kits? Sorry, all carefully stored ready for the mother of all build parties & the completed rifles most definitely ain't for sale either. When I get something, it never gets sold or traded, having had guns confiscated by da govt. of the UK, I'm of the firm opinion you can never have too many guns of ANY type..... __________________ A sucking chest wound is God's way of telling you that you will take no further part in the firefight. God is on the side, not of the big battalions, but of the best shots- Voltaire “The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." -Alexis de Tocqueville

November 17, 2005, 22:35	#2
vmtz FALaholic #: 1125 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Here right now Posts: 17,638	While I don't have it in front of me, I beleive it is the standard BHO. Vince

November 17, 2005, 23:45	#6
moses One of the original 400 Contributor FALaholic #: 392 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: charlotte nc usa Posts: 5,469	Actuaaly I heard that there are less than 500 of the 223 sar 4800's the serial #'s go a little past 1500 but I heard they started after 1000

November 18, 2005, 01:24	#10
Prototype Services Registered FALaholic #: 3935 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Gainesville Georgia 30501 Posts: 2,067	Gman, It is now official! YOU are my HERO!!! Dave __________________ ''Life's tough.....it's even tougher if you're stupid.'' ~ John Wayne

November 18, 2005, 01:43	#11
creator0203 Registered FALaholic #: 17864 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: idaho Posts: 904	oh nonono. i never said sell. i was just going to pay the shipping. i agree, no such thing as too many guns. my wife begs to differ. __________________ 5.45 Junkie Why wouldn't you hunt with an FAL? Home is where they understand you. - Garfield "I love my Beater AK" Rivet it and forget it Even my AR spits commie led

November 18, 2005, 05:38	#12
euripides Registered FALaholic #: 6305 Join Date: May 2002 Location: CT Posts: 838	The Meeper variation in 223 has a modification on the BHO to make it work, on my FAL. It worked quite well after a break-in period for the rifle. HTH, Gary. __________________ "The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money." "The gods visit the sins of the fathers upon the children" - Euripides

November 18, 2005, 12:14	#13
kev Curio & Relic Contributor FALaholic #: 71 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Indiana and various others Posts: 3,775	Gman, you have my respect as well. I think it's great that you move your life here to the free zone and jump in with both feet. Maybe we can get together sometime and have that MOAB Party. Sounds like we could turn out 100+ between the two of us. Gary, I have Meeper conversions with both AR15 mags and Bulgarain .223 AK mags. The AR version has a BHO; the AK mag version does not,.....not even manual. That needs to be fixed. I really like the AK version, but handling is complicated and imperfect. __________________ Gun control is not about guns; it's about control. RUE?

November 19, 2005, 08:37	#15
euripides Registered FALaholic #: 6305 Join Date: May 2002 Location: CT Posts: 838	"Is yours the orignal style or the newer with the quick change?" Mine is single caliber only, built on a Williams receiver and a light weight DSA lower. __________________ "The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money." "The gods visit the sins of the fathers upon the children" - Euripides

November 19, 2005, 17:17	#16
Adventurer_96 Registered FALaholic #: 5417 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,281	I'll have to check out my rifle when I get back, it sounds like a twin to yours, euripedes. I still haven't found the digicam cable to post a photo of the magwell adaptor. __________________ Check Six.

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