Have a SAR 4800 .223? What is serial #? - Page 2

ALBPM · September 01, 2005, 06:14

Quote:

Originally posted by vmtz
But don't forget it worked perfect with my 308 lower. I think there is something funny with the recoil tube, or the recoil spring.

I know we discussced this, but what you are getting is similar to what happens when one puts too much grease on the recoil spring.

Vince

Got my spring kit yesterday and should get my gas tube in the next day or so.

Time for some Scotch and SAR surgery, eh.

vmtz · September 01, 2005, 08:20

Quote:

Originally posted by ALBPM

Got my spring kit yesterday and should get my gas tube in the next day or so.

Time for some Scotch and SAR surgery, eh.

Cool. Let us know how it works.

Vince

ALBPM · September 01, 2005, 13:43

Got another reply from Springfield:

So, is there a difference in the MFG date vs the Import date???

If most of our SARs were made in 1985 then were they imported or sold at later dates?

Reply:
There is no difference between the manufacture date and the import date.
They shipped out within 3 days of delivery and did not stay in inventory for any length of time.

So, this isn't making sense..... Most were manufactured/Imported from 10/85 to 12/85 but have the Post Ban SAR-4800 features that were only sold after 1989???????

I guess I'll wait awhile and just send this to the Generic Springfield Customer support email.

SafetyAgentMan · September 01, 2005, 14:02

Quote:

Originally posted by ALBPM
Got another reply from Springfield:

So, is there a difference in the MFG date vs the Import date???

If most of our SARs were made in 1985 then were they imported or sold at later dates?

Reply:
There is no difference between the manufacture date and the import date.
They shipped out within 3 days of delivery and did not stay in inventory for any length of time.

So, this isn't making sense..... Most were manufactured/Imported from 10/85 to 12/85 but have the Post Ban SAR-4800 features that were only sold after 1989???????

I guess I'll wait awhile and just send this to the Generic Springfield Customer support email.

ALBPM,

It must be abundantly clear by now that Teresa does not understand what she is telling you? Each of her statements contradicts the next. The bottom line is the SAR-4800 was not created until after the 1989 ban was enacted. Why would Springfield manufacturer post ban rifles 4 years before the ban existed?

ALBPM · September 01, 2005, 14:19

I agree.....

Well, maybe we can get a few more complete serial numbers for the rifles on our list and send it off again. I have one more contact at Springfield I can try.

Mr pogo · September 02, 2005, 03:06

Ok, I will go over it again

1. Those 198x dates are wrong, bogus, incorrect, false etc.
2. Reread my previous posts, whatever your info is from internet sources like Janes, et al they are also wrong on the MD series. Like I said before, I scanned back in the late 90s a magazine article on the history of the Imbel MD series and distributed it on the old Falfiles and the MD series was not even in production until 1989.
3. All of you are going over previous well travelled history, please notice the date of my letter from SA. DK and possibly other members may have even older letters.
Sorry for the poor quality of the scan but its been awhile since I used it.

ALBPM · September 02, 2005, 06:35

We figured the info I got was incorrect since the mfg dates were mostly 1985 for SARs that were all Post ban SAR-4800s .

SafetyAgentMan · September 03, 2005, 13:55

Updated list below

SERIAL NUMBERS FOR SAR4800s in 5.56mm:
SA-SR 1066 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 1092 (Not reparable, resold and most likely became a spare parts gun)
SA-SR 1095 (Returned to Springfield for replacement. Most likely became Springfield spare parts gun)
SA-SR 1100 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 113x
SA-SR 1174 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 1176
SA-SR 122x (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL)
SA-SR 1267
SA-SR 1270 (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL)
SA-SR 1301
SA-SR 1311
SA-SR 14xx
SA-SR 1559 (Marked Springfield Inc Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 159x
SA-SR 164x
SA-SR 1648

paladin · September 03, 2005, 21:44

Mine is 1604...Paladin

DK · September 04, 2005, 00:55

Quote:

Originally posted by SafetyAgentMan
Updated list below

SERIAL NUMBERS FOR SAR4800s in 5.56mm:
SA-SR 1066 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 1092 (Not reparable, resold and most likely became a spare parts gun)
SA-SR 1095 (Returned to Springfield for replacement. Most likely became Springfield spare parts gun)
SA-SR 1100 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 113x
SA-SR 1174 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 1176
SA-SR 122x (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL)
SA-SR 1267
SA-SR 1270 (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL)
SA-SR 1301
SA-SR 1311
SA-SR 14xx
SA-SR 1559 (Marked Springfield Inc Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 159x
SA-SR 164x
SA-SR 1648

I mentioned these 2 on a previous thread. They were both 5.56. I used to own them but sold 'em off.

SA-SR 1390
SA-SR 1357

SafetyAgentMan · September 04, 2005, 20:12

Thanks Paladin & DK. Updated list below

SERIAL NUMBERS FOR SAR4800s in 5.56mm:
SA-SR 1066 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 1092 (Not reparable, resold and most likely became a spare parts gun)
SA-SR 1095 (Returned to Springfield for replacement. Most likely became Springfield spare parts gun)
SA-SR 1100 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 113x
SA-SR 1174 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 1176
SA-SR 122x (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL)
SA-SR 1267
SA-SR 1270 (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL)
SA-SR 1301
SA-SR 1311
SA-SR 1357
SA-SR 1390
SA-SR 14xx
SA-SR 1559 (Marked Springfield Inc Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 159x
SA-SR 1604
SA-SR 164x
SA-SR 1648

ALBPM · September 04, 2005, 22:19

14xx is 1432

ratas calientes · September 28, 2005, 09:21

Updated list below

SERIAL NUMBERS FOR SAR4800s in 5.56mm:
SA-SR 1066 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 1092 (Not reparable, resold and most likely became a spare parts gun)
SA-SR 1095 (Returned to Springfield for replacement. Most likely became Springfield spare parts gun)
SA-SR 1100 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 113x
SA-SR 1174 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 1176
SA-SR 122x (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL)
SA-SR 1267 (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL)
SA-SR 1270 (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL)
SA-SR 1301
SA-SR 1311
SA-SR 1357
SA-SR 1390
SA-SR 1432
SA-SR 1559 (Marked Springfield Inc Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 159x
SA-SR 1604
SA-SR 164x
SA-SR 1648

Any more?

the gman · September 28, 2005, 10:44

I have 1642 with the Geneseo addy & mine runs like a champ!

Those cheap gunshow guns.......

splattermatic · December 11, 2005, 12:52

bringing this up from the depths for more and new info..

mine is serial number sa sr158x marked geneseo, il., but not sure if marked springfield inc. or armory....

it has the fake looking ar 15 muzzle dingus..... anyone know if this type muzzle dingus has the threads under it ?

mine is as new in box with a warranty card and sar4800 manual, but it for the 308 model...was there a manual specific to the 223 model ??
or did they just use the 308 one ???

i will know in a few weeks if the bolt is polished or not, and spring length.

so lets get this thread rolling again with any new info available..

SafetyAgentMan · December 11, 2005, 13:49

Splatt

There were two different manuals shipped with the SAR-4800 that I am aware of. I don't believe Springfield ever published one that was 5.56mm specific. Below are the covers from the two I am aware of.

Regarding the fake AR-15 flash suppressor, all of my SAR-4800's had the early thread protector. I believe the fake AR-15 flash suppressors were installed on the later rifles and my not be threaded.

Here is a picture of two early thread protectors I removed from my rifles.

splattermatic · December 11, 2005, 14:19

the manual looks like the top one..

i think it's of the second run of imports and does not have a threaded muzzle...
i am hoping that the od diameter is still large enough to have it threaded for a combo device, if not then i am going to have to bite it and put a phantom on..

i think that should still look alright..

ratas calientes · December 11, 2005, 19:23

Quote:

Originally posted by splattermatic
. . .
mine is serial number sa sr158x marked geneseo, il., but not sure if marked springfield inc. or armory....
. . .

Don't be shy there, fella. Add your serial # and factory name to the list and repost.

ratas calientes · December 11, 2005, 19:25

Okay, Splatt . . . I did it fer ya.

SERIAL NUMBERS FOR SAR4800s in 5.56mm:
SA-SR 1066 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 1092 (Not reparable, resold and most likely became a spare parts gun)
SA-SR 1095 (Returned to Springfield for replacement. Most likely became Springfield spare parts gun)
SA-SR 1100 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 113x
SA-SR 1174 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 1176
SA-SR 122x (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL)
SA-SR 1267 (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL)
SA-SR 1270 (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL)
SA-SR 1301
SA-SR 1311
SA-SR 1357
SA-SR 1390
SA-SR 1432
SA-SR 1559 (Marked Springfield Inc Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 158x (Marked Springfield Inc Geneseo IL)
SA-SR 159x
SA-SR 1604
SA-SR 164x
SA-SR 1648

splattermatic · December 20, 2005, 05:54

i just couldn't resist myself, now i have another inbound..

hey rat, add serial number 122x marked springfield ,inc colona,il to the list, it is NIB with warranty card and manual, and has the bell looking muzzle dingus...

so that brings it to 2 more 223 fal's in new mexico..

C2A1 · December 20, 2005, 13:36

Geneseo,Ill. SA-SR-1531

wildwilly · December 20, 2005, 17:02

ok LET me get it straight. I purchased sar 48 Jan- Feb 1989 thru my dealer from springfield armory. Boy was I pissed when I got a 4800 308. Called SP and got customer service. They told me to send about $160 for acurrizing kit. I was not happy as I figured they were just raising the price. In May I got the money together and tried to order. ATF had send a letter and they could not sell the kit.
I will dig out my .223 sar 4800 and give you the serial number tomorrow. Has anybody taken the m16 fake flashhider off that has no screw? I sure would like a real flashider on it just for looks. It already has the US parts, DSA lightweight lower, penquin furniture and tapco parts.

Ken B · December 20, 2005, 22:14

I have Geneseo SN# 1177 NIB

C2A1 · December 21, 2005, 14:20

Forgot one. SA-SR 1655

cidrasm · December 21, 2005, 16:01

Please add one more:

SPRINGFIELD INC COLONA IL USA
MADE IN BRAZIL

S.A.R.-4800
5.56mm SA-SR1242
SPORTER

**moses** · December 22, 2005, 01:07

Somehow mine got left off the updated list

Colona IL SR 1491

wildwilly · December 22, 2005, 09:36

I have serial number 1532 SAR 4800 in 5.56 reciever is marked
Springfield Armory Genesco IL.

ratas calientes · January 01, 2006, 23:00

Thanks for the updates. Here is the latest list - 1/1/06:

SERIAL NUMBERS FOR SAR4800s in 5.56mm:
SA-SR 1066 Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL
SA-SR 1092 (Not reparable, resold and most likely became a spare parts gun)
SA-SR 1095 (Returned to Springfield for replacement. Most likely became Springfield spare parts gun)
SA-SR 1100 Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL
SA-SR 113x
SA-SR 1174 Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL
SA-SR 1176
SA-SR 1177 Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL
SA-SR 122x Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL
SA-SR 122x Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL
SA-SR 1242 Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL
SA-SR 1267 Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL
SA-SR 1270 Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL
SA-SR 1301
SA-SR 1311
SA-SR 1357
SA-SR 1390
SA-SR 1432
SA-SR 1491 Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL
SA-SR 1531 Marked Springfield Inc Geneseo IL
SA-SR 1532 Marked Springfield Inc Geneseo IL
SA-SR 1559 Marked Springfield Inc Geneseo IL
SA-SR 158x Marked Springfield Inc Geneseo IL
SA-SR 159x
SA-SR 1604
SA-SR 164x
SA-SR 1648
SA-SR 1655

terral · January 02, 2006, 00:08

should be one more 122x on the list

splattermatic · January 02, 2006, 07:29

terral,
i put another 122x in, but what's the rest of the info ????

terral · January 02, 2006, 15:28

check my original posts

ratas calientes · January 02, 2006, 22:42

Quote:

Originally posted by terral
check my original posts

Did your's get left off of the list?

splattermatic · January 03, 2006, 07:32

i cleaned up the list and added some

ratas calientes · January 03, 2006, 22:57

Quote:

Originally posted by splattermatic
i cleaned up the list and added some

Do these changes show up on the list that I added to post #1?

splattermatic · January 04, 2006, 05:36

i just did the last list on page 3..i added terals.

ratas calientes · January 04, 2006, 18:42

Quote:

Originally posted by splattermatic
i just did the last list on page 3..i added terals.

Okay, I see it now. That post shows that you edited it. Kewl.

ratas calientes · February 09, 2006, 11:02

Any more?

turner2 · February 09, 2006, 14:32

I have 132x.

FNSam · February 09, 2006, 14:44

Run a bunch of steel cased ammo and it may start working.

turner2 · February 09, 2006, 14:59

What do you mean? Is there a problem with these guns? I know some of the early ones had issues but I thought they were worked out by the time they got to the 13xx's

SafetyAgentMan · February 09, 2006, 15:17

There were some issues with the first two lots sold by Roger at R-Guns (Sports R Us) for 975.00, but yours was from the later lots sold by CDNN for 749.95.

turner2 · February 09, 2006, 15:38

Thanks Safetyagentman. I had already taken it apart to check for defects and was heading to the range! I think I will postpone the range trip until tomorrow since there is snow on the ground.

Upon VERY close examination, I was able to locate two tiny slits in the buttplate of my gun. I will be drilling there for screws later on. I would have never found them if you hadn't told me they were there.

SafetyAgentMan · February 09, 2006, 15:46

Don't drill, just insert a Philips head screwdriver into the slits and feel around for the screw heads. Make sure you apply downward pressure so the screwdriver tip does not slip out of the screw head.

ratas calientes · February 09, 2006, 16:15

Quote:

Originally posted by turner2
I have 132x.

List updated 2/9/06

ratas calientes · April 04, 2006, 18:11

ratas calientes · April 04, 2006, 23:16

I added one more.

**kroberts** · May 05, 2006, 18:13

My serial number is 156x. I think it's purty.

kroberts

Bing · May 07, 2006, 09:50

My serial # is 101X.

ratas calientes · May 08, 2006, 12:25

List updated.

chrsdwns · July 07, 2006, 15:52

119x

Geneseo. IL Sold By R-Guns 1/24/94

September 02, 2005, 03:06	#56
Mr pogo Registered FALaholic #: 5 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 2,216	Ok, I will go over it again 1. Those 198x dates are wrong, bogus, incorrect, false etc. 2. Reread my previous posts, whatever your info is from internet sources like Janes, et al they are also wrong on the MD series. Like I said before, I scanned back in the late 90s a magazine article on the history of the Imbel MD series and distributed it on the old Falfiles and the MD series was not even in production until 1989. 3. All of you are going over previous well travelled history, please notice the date of my letter from SA. DK and possibly other members may have even older letters. Sorry for the poor quality of the scan but its been awhile since I used it. __________________ Mr pogo has left the building....

September 03, 2005, 21:44	#59
paladin Registered Gold Contributor FALaholic #: 2056 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Ellicott City, Maryland US of A. Posts: 853	Mine is 1604...Paladin __________________ THOSE WITH THE WEAPONS MAKE THE RULES. Ask me about the Mason-Dixon FAL Collectors Association.

September 28, 2005, 09:21	#63
ratas calientes Registered FALaholic #: 1841 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,818	Updated list below SERIAL NUMBERS FOR SAR4800s in 5.56mm: SA-SR 1066 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL) SA-SR 1092 (Not reparable, resold and most likely became a spare parts gun) SA-SR 1095 (Returned to Springfield for replacement. Most likely became Springfield spare parts gun) SA-SR 1100 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL) SA-SR 113x SA-SR 1174 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL) SA-SR 1176 SA-SR 122x (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL) SA-SR 1267 (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL) SA-SR 1270 (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL) SA-SR 1301 SA-SR 1311 SA-SR 1357 SA-SR 1390 SA-SR 1432 SA-SR 1559 (Marked Springfield Inc Geneseo IL) SA-SR 159x SA-SR 1604 SA-SR 164x SA-SR 1648 Any more? __________________ Ratas Calientes (Hot Rats) Rats are people too!

September 28, 2005, 10:44	#64
the gman Registered FALaholic #: 5179 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: NM Posts: 4,548	I have 1642 with the Geneseo addy & mine runs like a champ! Those cheap gunshow guns....... __________________ A sucking chest wound is God's way of telling you that you will take no further part in the firefight. God is on the side, not of the big battalions, but of the best shots- Voltaire “The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." -Alexis de Tocqueville

December 11, 2005, 12:52	#65
splattermatic "THUG" MODERATOR FALaholic #: 2223 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: southwestern,usa Posts: 6,791	bringing this up from the depths for more and new info.. mine is serial number sa sr158x marked geneseo, il., but not sure if marked springfield inc. or armory.... it has the fake looking ar 15 muzzle dingus..... anyone know if this type muzzle dingus has the threads under it ? mine is as new in box with a warranty card and sar4800 manual, but it for the 308 model...was there a manual specific to the 223 model ?? or did they just use the 308 one ??? i will know in a few weeks if the bolt is polished or not, and spring length. so lets get this thread rolling again with any new info available.. __________________ the worst thing about making it to middle age, is watching people you know and love, start dying off. i miss you cubby 10-10-08 kim, thanks for being my friend. Last edited by splattermatic; December 11, 2005 at 14:17.

September 01, 2005, 13:43	#53
ALBPM Registered FALaholic #: 16249 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Mexico Thugs Posts: 1,496	Got another reply from Springfield: So, is there a difference in the MFG date vs the Import date??? If most of our SARs were made in 1985 then were they imported or sold at later dates? Reply: There is no difference between the manufacture date and the import date. They shipped out within 3 days of delivery and did not stay in inventory for any length of time. So, this isn't making sense..... Most were manufactured/Imported from 10/85 to 12/85 but have the Post Ban SAR-4800 features that were only sold after 1989??????? I guess I'll wait awhile and just send this to the Generic Springfield Customer support email.

September 01, 2005, 14:19	#55
ALBPM Registered FALaholic #: 16249 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Mexico Thugs Posts: 1,496	I agree..... Well, maybe we can get a few more complete serial numbers for the rifles on our list and send it off again. I have one more contact at Springfield I can try.

September 02, 2005, 06:35	#57
ALBPM Registered FALaholic #: 16249 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Mexico Thugs Posts: 1,496	We figured the info I got was incorrect since the mfg dates were mostly 1985 for SARs that were all Post ban SAR-4800s .

September 03, 2005, 13:55	#58
SafetyAgentMan Registered FALaholic #: 4142 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 239	Updated list below SERIAL NUMBERS FOR SAR4800s in 5.56mm: SA-SR 1066 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL) SA-SR 1092 (Not reparable, resold and most likely became a spare parts gun) SA-SR 1095 (Returned to Springfield for replacement. Most likely became Springfield spare parts gun) SA-SR 1100 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL) SA-SR 113x SA-SR 1174 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL) SA-SR 1176 SA-SR 122x (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL) SA-SR 1267 SA-SR 1270 (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL) SA-SR 1301 SA-SR 1311 SA-SR 14xx SA-SR 1559 (Marked Springfield Inc Geneseo IL) SA-SR 159x SA-SR 164x SA-SR 1648

September 04, 2005, 20:12	#61
SafetyAgentMan Registered FALaholic #: 4142 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 239	Thanks Paladin & DK. Updated list below SERIAL NUMBERS FOR SAR4800s in 5.56mm: SA-SR 1066 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL) SA-SR 1092 (Not reparable, resold and most likely became a spare parts gun) SA-SR 1095 (Returned to Springfield for replacement. Most likely became Springfield spare parts gun) SA-SR 1100 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL) SA-SR 113x SA-SR 1174 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL) SA-SR 1176 SA-SR 122x (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL) SA-SR 1267 SA-SR 1270 (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL) SA-SR 1301 SA-SR 1311 SA-SR 1357 SA-SR 1390 SA-SR 14xx SA-SR 1559 (Marked Springfield Inc Geneseo IL) SA-SR 159x SA-SR 1604 SA-SR 164x SA-SR 1648

September 04, 2005, 22:19	#62
ALBPM Registered FALaholic #: 16249 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Mexico Thugs Posts: 1,496	14xx is 1432

December 11, 2005, 13:49	#66
SafetyAgentMan Registered FALaholic #: 4142 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 239	Splatt There were two different manuals shipped with the SAR-4800 that I am aware of. I don't believe Springfield ever published one that was 5.56mm specific. Below are the covers from the two I am aware of. Regarding the fake AR-15 flash suppressor, all of my SAR-4800's had the early thread protector. I believe the fake AR-15 flash suppressors were installed on the later rifles and my not be threaded. Here is a picture of two early thread protectors I removed from my rifles.

December 11, 2005, 14:19	#67
splattermatic "THUG" MODERATOR FALaholic #: 2223 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: southwestern,usa Posts: 6,791	the manual looks like the top one.. i think it's of the second run of imports and does not have a threaded muzzle... i am hoping that the od diameter is still large enough to have it threaded for a combo device, if not then i am going to have to bite it and put a phantom on.. i think that should still look alright.. __________________ the worst thing about making it to middle age, is watching people you know and love, start dying off. i miss you cubby 10-10-08 kim, thanks for being my friend.

December 11, 2005, 19:25	#69
ratas calientes Registered FALaholic #: 1841 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,818	Okay, Splatt . . . I did it fer ya. SERIAL NUMBERS FOR SAR4800s in 5.56mm: SA-SR 1066 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL) SA-SR 1092 (Not reparable, resold and most likely became a spare parts gun) SA-SR 1095 (Returned to Springfield for replacement. Most likely became Springfield spare parts gun) SA-SR 1100 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL) SA-SR 113x SA-SR 1174 (Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL) SA-SR 1176 SA-SR 122x (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL) SA-SR 1267 (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL) SA-SR 1270 (Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL) SA-SR 1301 SA-SR 1311 SA-SR 1357 SA-SR 1390 SA-SR 1432 SA-SR 1559 (Marked Springfield Inc Geneseo IL) SA-SR 158x (Marked Springfield Inc Geneseo IL) SA-SR 159x SA-SR 1604 SA-SR 164x SA-SR 1648 __________________ Ratas Calientes (Hot Rats) Rats are people too!

December 20, 2005, 05:54	#70
splattermatic "THUG" MODERATOR FALaholic #: 2223 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: southwestern,usa Posts: 6,791	i just couldn't resist myself, now i have another inbound.. hey rat, add serial number 122x marked springfield ,inc colona,il to the list, it is NIB with warranty card and manual, and has the bell looking muzzle dingus... so that brings it to 2 more 223 fal's in new mexico.. __________________ the worst thing about making it to middle age, is watching people you know and love, start dying off. i miss you cubby 10-10-08 kim, thanks for being my friend. Last edited by splattermatic; December 20, 2005 at 18:47.

December 20, 2005, 13:36	#71
C2A1 Registered FALaholic #: 15514 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,011	Geneseo,Ill. SA-SR-1531

December 20, 2005, 17:02	#72
wildwilly Registered FALaholic #: 7134 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Wyoming Posts: 614	ok LET me get it straight. I purchased sar 48 Jan- Feb 1989 thru my dealer from springfield armory. Boy was I pissed when I got a 4800 308. Called SP and got customer service. They told me to send about $160 for acurrizing kit. I was not happy as I figured they were just raising the price. In May I got the money together and tried to order. ATF had send a letter and they could not sell the kit. I will dig out my .223 sar 4800 and give you the serial number tomorrow. Has anybody taken the m16 fake flashhider off that has no screw? I sure would like a real flashider on it just for looks. It already has the US parts, DSA lightweight lower, penquin furniture and tapco parts.

December 20, 2005, 22:14	#73
Ken B Registered FALaholic #: 5762 Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 20	I have Geneseo SN# 1177 NIB

December 21, 2005, 14:20	#74
C2A1 Registered FALaholic #: 15514 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,011	Forgot one. SA-SR 1655

December 21, 2005, 16:01	#75
cidrasm Registered FALaholic #: 8003 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kansas Posts: 15	Please add one more: SPRINGFIELD INC COLONA IL USA MADE IN BRAZIL S.A.R.-4800 5.56mm SA-SR1242 SPORTER

December 22, 2005, 01:07	#76
moses One of the original 400 Contributor FALaholic #: 392 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: charlotte nc usa Posts: 5,474	Somehow mine got left off the updated list Colona IL SR 1491

December 22, 2005, 09:36	#77
wildwilly Registered FALaholic #: 7134 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Wyoming Posts: 614	I have serial number 1532 SAR 4800 in 5.56 reciever is marked Springfield Armory Genesco IL.

January 01, 2006, 23:00	#78
ratas calientes Registered FALaholic #: 1841 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,818	Thanks for the updates. Here is the latest list - 1/1/06: SERIAL NUMBERS FOR SAR4800s in 5.56mm: SA-SR 1066 Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL SA-SR 1092 (Not reparable, resold and most likely became a spare parts gun) SA-SR 1095 (Returned to Springfield for replacement. Most likely became Springfield spare parts gun) SA-SR 1100 Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL SA-SR 113x SA-SR 1174 Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL SA-SR 1176 SA-SR 1177 Marked Springfield Armory Geneseo IL SA-SR 122x Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL SA-SR 122x Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL SA-SR 1242 Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL SA-SR 1267 Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL SA-SR 1270 Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL SA-SR 1301 SA-SR 1311 SA-SR 1357 SA-SR 1390 SA-SR 1432 SA-SR 1491 Marked Springfield Inc Colona IL SA-SR 1531 Marked Springfield Inc Geneseo IL SA-SR 1532 Marked Springfield Inc Geneseo IL SA-SR 1559 Marked Springfield Inc Geneseo IL SA-SR 158x Marked Springfield Inc Geneseo IL SA-SR 159x SA-SR 1604 SA-SR 164x SA-SR 1648 SA-SR 1655 __________________ Ratas Calientes (Hot Rats) Rats are people too! Last edited by splattermatic; January 02, 2006 at 16:15.

January 02, 2006, 00:08	#79
terral Registered FALaholic #: 3538 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: ok Posts: 578	should be one more 122x on the list __________________ Mother should I run for president? Mother should I trust the government? Mother will they put me in the firing line? Mother is it just a waste of time? (Pink Floyd)

January 02, 2006, 07:29	#80
splattermatic "THUG" MODERATOR FALaholic #: 2223 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: southwestern,usa Posts: 6,791	terral, i put another 122x in, but what's the rest of the info ???? __________________ the worst thing about making it to middle age, is watching people you know and love, start dying off. i miss you cubby 10-10-08 kim, thanks for being my friend.

January 02, 2006, 15:28	#81
terral Registered FALaholic #: 3538 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: ok Posts: 578	check my original posts __________________ Mother should I run for president? Mother should I trust the government? Mother will they put me in the firing line? Mother is it just a waste of time? (Pink Floyd)

January 03, 2006, 07:32	#83
splattermatic "THUG" MODERATOR FALaholic #: 2223 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: southwestern,usa Posts: 6,791	i cleaned up the list and added some __________________ the worst thing about making it to middle age, is watching people you know and love, start dying off. i miss you cubby 10-10-08 kim, thanks for being my friend.

January 04, 2006, 05:36	#85
splattermatic "THUG" MODERATOR FALaholic #: 2223 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: southwestern,usa Posts: 6,791	i just did the last list on page 3..i added terals. __________________ the worst thing about making it to middle age, is watching people you know and love, start dying off. i miss you cubby 10-10-08 kim, thanks for being my friend.

February 09, 2006, 11:02	#87
ratas calientes Registered FALaholic #: 1841 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,818	Any more? __________________ Ratas Calientes (Hot Rats) Rats are people too!

February 09, 2006, 14:32	#88
turner2 Registered FALaholic #: 19300 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 61	I have 132x.

February 09, 2006, 14:44	#89
FNSam Registered FALaholic #: 6313 Join Date: May 2002 Location: U.S. Posts: 298	Run a bunch of steel cased ammo and it may start working. __________________ Our cause is just, Our trust is in God, and Victory awaits us...........

February 09, 2006, 14:59	#90
turner2 Registered FALaholic #: 19300 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 61	What do you mean? Is there a problem with these guns? I know some of the early ones had issues but I thought they were worked out by the time they got to the 13xx's

February 09, 2006, 15:17	#91
SafetyAgentMan Registered FALaholic #: 4142 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 239	There were some issues with the first two lots sold by Roger at R-Guns (Sports R Us) for 975.00, but yours was from the later lots sold by CDNN for 749.95.

February 09, 2006, 15:38	#92
turner2 Registered FALaholic #: 19300 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 61	Thanks Safetyagentman. I had already taken it apart to check for defects and was heading to the range! I think I will postpone the range trip until tomorrow since there is snow on the ground. Upon VERY close examination, I was able to locate two tiny slits in the buttplate of my gun. I will be drilling there for screws later on. I would have never found them if you hadn't told me they were there.

February 09, 2006, 15:46	#93
SafetyAgentMan Registered FALaholic #: 4142 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 239	Don't drill, just insert a Philips head screwdriver into the slits and feel around for the screw heads. Make sure you apply downward pressure so the screwdriver tip does not slip out of the screw head.