Mp 34 !!

detroit360 · July 07, 2005, 23:11

I picked up a SMG MP 34 parts kit from Centerfire a couple days ago, man you talk about a work of art in machining, this thing is somthing else, kind of reminds me of a MG34,is any one familiar with this gun, I don't think you could duplicate this gun for love nor money.

Michael Bush · July 07, 2005, 23:24

They are very very neat guns, pretty cool how they pinned the various pieces together. I never got to shoot it but I have got to play with one of the rarest ones, they were built in .45!

If you are looking for info, the best source is Vol. 1 of Submachineguns of the World by Nelson.

Question, are the threads for the barrel reamed out or are they intact?

detroit360 · July 07, 2005, 23:47

The threads are all there,the one I got is in very very good condition, perfect rifling no rust or corrosion any where, the stock has got it's share of small dings,the blueing is not bad at all, no dings in the metal, I don't know where they got em, but for a gun thats 70 yrs. old it's in damn good shape,it is 9mm.

DABTL · July 08, 2005, 03:10

In 1972 our local Sheriff's office got a call from a person who said he had some guns found at his deceased brother's place and wanted to turn them in.

One, a M1a Thompson, was in like near new condition, another, a Mk. II Sten was in really good shape and the third was a pristine new condition MP34.

Six Sheriff's have kept them in the evidence locker from that time. They will be going into the museum at the local college in a few years.

The MP34 is marked only with an 'O' for Ostreich on the receiver and a five digit serial number. It is a machinist' work of art. Beautiful machine work.

It fires quite nicely, by the way.

detroit360 · July 08, 2005, 09:15

this one is marked WSS in a circle, they only made them from 1934 to 1939,it also takes a bayonet. Is there any place on line that would give some info on this gun??

Michael Bush · July 08, 2005, 21:07

Since the 9mm Steyr uses a different longer bolt these started out life as 9mm luger guns. In addition, the mag housing is wider for 9mm Steyr. What is on the guns that makes people think they didn't start out as 9mm Luger guns?

I don't think anyone in SA used 9mm Mauser Export, Romania and the Swiss are about the only ones that did.

**kev** · July 09, 2005, 18:21

The blanket statement about the IMA kits is incorrect. I had one late kit that was pretty much as you describe, but 3 or 4 of the initial MP34 kit offerings from IMA were pristine and completely intact, minus a few inches of the central receiver 'trough'.

detroit360 · July 09, 2005, 19:13

I wonder what the correct bayo is for the mp 34, mine will take one , I haven't seen one picture of a mp 34 with the bayo on it ??

**kev** · July 11, 2005, 19:52

IMA had a few of the Bayos when the kits first came in. Condition was new, as were the kits. The bayonet also fits some Austrian rifle; not sure whether Mauser, Mannlicher, or something else. Does fit the MP34 tho.

July 07, 2005, 23:11	#1
detroit360 Registered FALaholic #: 7685 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,122	Mp 34 !! I picked up a SMG MP 34 parts kit from Centerfire a couple days ago, man you talk about a work of art in machining, this thing is somthing else, kind of reminds me of a MG34,is any one familiar with this gun, I don't think you could duplicate this gun for love nor money.

July 07, 2005, 23:24	#2
Michael Bush Registered FALaholic #: 5641 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 316	They are very very neat guns, pretty cool how they pinned the various pieces together. I never got to shoot it but I have got to play with one of the rarest ones, they were built in .45! If you are looking for info, the best source is Vol. 1 of Submachineguns of the World by Nelson. Question, are the threads for the barrel reamed out or are they intact? __________________ Michael Bush Michael@mgstocks.com www.MGStocks.Com 208 25th Street Sacramento, CA 95816 "Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear - kept us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor - with the cry of grave national emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil at home or some monstrous foreign power that was going to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it." ~ General Douglas Macarthur, 1957

July 08, 2005, 03:10	#4
DABTL Registered FALaholic #: 138 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Texas Posts: 31,590	In 1972 our local Sheriff's office got a call from a person who said he had some guns found at his deceased brother's place and wanted to turn them in. One, a M1a Thompson, was in like near new condition, another, a Mk. II Sten was in really good shape and the third was a pristine new condition MP34. Six Sheriff's have kept them in the evidence locker from that time. They will be going into the museum at the local college in a few years. The MP34 is marked only with an 'O' for Ostreich on the receiver and a five digit serial number. It is a machinist' work of art. Beautiful machine work. It fires quite nicely, by the way. __________________ "The work begins anew, the hope rises again, and the dream lives on." Ted Kennedy 2008

July 08, 2005, 21:07	#6
Michael Bush Registered FALaholic #: 5641 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 316	Since the 9mm Steyr uses a different longer bolt these started out life as 9mm luger guns. In addition, the mag housing is wider for 9mm Steyr. What is on the guns that makes people think they didn't start out as 9mm Luger guns? I don't think anyone in SA used 9mm Mauser Export, Romania and the Swiss are about the only ones that did. __________________ Michael Bush Michael@mgstocks.com www.MGStocks.Com 208 25th Street Sacramento, CA 95816 "Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear - kept us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor - with the cry of grave national emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil at home or some monstrous foreign power that was going to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it." ~ General Douglas Macarthur, 1957

July 09, 2005, 18:21	#7
kev Curio & Relic Contributor FALaholic #: 71 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Indiana and various others Posts: 3,782	The blanket statement about the IMA kits is incorrect. I had one late kit that was pretty much as you describe, but 3 or 4 of the initial MP34 kit offerings from IMA were pristine and completely intact, minus a few inches of the central receiver 'trough'. __________________ Gun control is not about guns; it's about control. RUE?

July 07, 2005, 23:47	#3
detroit360 Registered FALaholic #: 7685 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,122	The threads are all there,the one I got is in very very good condition, perfect rifling no rust or corrosion any where, the stock has got it's share of small dings,the blueing is not bad at all, no dings in the metal, I don't know where they got em, but for a gun thats 70 yrs. old it's in damn good shape,it is 9mm.

July 08, 2005, 09:15	#5
detroit360 Registered FALaholic #: 7685 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,122	this one is marked WSS in a circle, they only made them from 1934 to 1939,it also takes a bayonet. Is there any place on line that would give some info on this gun??

July 09, 2005, 19:13	#8
detroit360 Registered FALaholic #: 7685 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,122	I wonder what the correct bayo is for the mp 34, mine will take one , I haven't seen one picture of a mp 34 with the bayo on it ??

July 11, 2005, 19:52	#9
kev Curio & Relic Contributor FALaholic #: 71 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Indiana and various others Posts: 3,782	IMA had a few of the Bayos when the kits first came in. Condition was new, as were the kits. The bayonet also fits some Austrian rifle; not sure whether Mauser, Mannlicher, or something else. Does fit the MP34 tho. __________________ Gun control is not about guns; it's about control. RUE?

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