Numrich AK kit stupidity

dalegribble · May 23, 2005, 12:58

Numrich AK kit

Apparently Numrich does so much business with the C2/C3 community that they don't want any business from lowly peons like myself

juanni · May 23, 2005, 13:13

Well you shouldn't be looking to buy a Romanian kit from Numbnut Arms anyway. Order from Bocefus in the marketplace or Centerfire. Less money and a lot less hassle. I mean you won't have to go through all the hoops of getting a Class 2 or 3 license for a parts kit

dalegribble · May 23, 2005, 13:21

Yeah, I wasn't really going to order from them anyway. I just ran across their webpage in my travels and it really steamed me good. I have a feeling that Bocefus and centerfire will both be seeing some of my money in the near future.

bouncer50 · May 23, 2005, 13:22

Did you notice in the picture that most of the reciever is still their just kindly make you wonder.

I got one from Bocefus and it was a nice kit. News to me you need paperwork to buy a kit

**bykerhd** · May 23, 2005, 13:35

Haven't dealt with Centerfire, but I would recommend Bocefus.

bouncer50 · May 23, 2005, 13:36

Over the years buying parts from Numrich my luck has been so-so. About half the time you get some used parts that are worst then your replacing. Rusted pitted parts that should have been throw out instead of being sold. Any more i avoid buying from them unless nobody else has the parts i need

dalegribble · May 23, 2005, 14:21

Quote:

Originally posted by bouncer50
Did you notice in the picture that most of the reciever is still their just kindly make you wonder. I got one from Bocefus and it was a nice kit. News to me you need paperwork to buy a kit

I did notice that. Could be a zip-tied machinegun fiasco waiting to happen, although the autosear hole area is gone. Ya just never know.

**kev** · May 23, 2005, 15:37

Look at the pic again,.......it's cut about the same as others I've seen. The front section is just moved back to join the rear. Everything from the trigger forward to halfway thru the magwell is gone.

gunsmith_tony · May 23, 2005, 17:56

I just sent them an email about their documentation requirement. Lets see what they say.

dk8019 · May 24, 2005, 07:24

I sent them an email yesterday in regards to this as well, I order a fair amount of small parts for antique rifles, things I can't find elsewhere most of the time, and I would be disappointed if they have a policy like this. As of yet I haven't received a response, but if I do I'll post it.

vmtz · May 24, 2005, 07:29

Quote:

Originally posted by bykerhd
Haven't dealt with Centerfire, but I would recommend Bocefus.

I have bought several kits from them. Centerfire is a two thumbs up affair.

Vince

dalegribble · May 24, 2005, 11:38

Quote:

Originally posted by kev
Look at the pic again,.......it's cut about the same as others I've seen. The front section is just moved back to join the rear. Everything from the trigger forward to halfway thru the magwell is gone.

I guess you're right kev, it just looks like there is more of the rec. left. The real question is: Will ATF prosecute on the basis of an optical illusion?

dk8019 · May 24, 2005, 12:48

Well, here's the email I got back from Numrich's.

"Dear Daniel,

We recently found out that this is not necessary for the purchase of the kit. If you have any further questions please feel free to contact me again.

Thank You,

Nancy
Web Services"

The link still shows the requirements, perhaps they will change it soon.

gunsmith_tony · May 24, 2005, 16:53

My email to Numrich...and their reply:

From your web site..."NOTE: CERTAIN DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED TO PURCHASE THIS PART. PLEASE CHOOSE THE "PRINTER FRIENDLY FORMAT" WHEN YOU CHECK OUT AND FAX OR MAIL YOUR ORDER WITH ANY ONE OF THE FOLLOWING: 1) COPY OF FORM 4 LISTING THE FIREARM THAT PARTS ARE BEING ORDERED FOR; 2) COPY OF CLASS II MANUFACTURES LICENSE; OR 3) COPY OF CLASS III DEALER LICENSE. IF WE RECEIVE YOUR ORDER WITHOUT PROPER DOCUMENTATION, THIS ITEM WILL BE CANCELLED"
NONE of the above documentation is required by BATFE, or any other government entity, when purchasing a "parts kit" because a parts kit is NOT a firearm. To my knowlwdge, no other distributors currently selling ANY AK kits require any of the above documentation as it is not necessary. Why are you requiring it?
Thanks.

Tony/Beth Marshburn
M&M Gunsmithing
Visit us on the web at: www.mandmgunsmithing.com
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Tony,

We found out last week that this was an error and are in the process of correcting this. If you have any further questions please feel free to contact me again.

Thank You,

Nancy
Web Services

Stranger · May 24, 2005, 16:57

Just like Vince said, they are a thumbs up company. I have bought numerous small parts from them and have always been satisfied.

masman · May 25, 2005, 05:11

Quote:

Originally posted by gunsmith_tony
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Dear Tony,

We found out last week that this was an error and are in the process of correcting this. If you have any further questions please feel free to contact me again.

Thank You,

Nancy
Web Services

they better fix it quick or they're going to be losing some sales

May 23, 2005, 12:58	#1
dalegribble Registered FALaholic #: 7291 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 285	Numrich AK kit stupidity Numrich AK kit Apparently Numrich does so much business with the C2/C3 community that they don't want any business from lowly peons like myself __________________ "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man." Jebediah Springfield

May 23, 2005, 13:21	#3
dalegribble Registered FALaholic #: 7291 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 285	Yeah, I wasn't really going to order from them anyway. I just ran across their webpage in my travels and it really steamed me good. I have a feeling that Bocefus and centerfire will both be seeing some of my money in the near future. __________________ "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man." Jebediah Springfield

May 23, 2005, 15:37	#8
kev Curio & Relic Contributor FALaholic #: 71 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Indiana and various others Posts: 3,774	Look at the pic again,.......it's cut about the same as others I've seen. The front section is just moved back to join the rear. Everything from the trigger forward to halfway thru the magwell is gone. __________________ Gun control is not about guns; it's about control. RUE?

May 24, 2005, 07:24	#10
dk8019 Registered FALaholic #: 16145 Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 202	Email sent I sent them an email yesterday in regards to this as well, I order a fair amount of small parts for antique rifles, things I can't find elsewhere most of the time, and I would be disappointed if they have a policy like this. As of yet I haven't received a response, but if I do I'll post it.

May 24, 2005, 12:48	#13
dk8019 Registered FALaholic #: 16145 Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 202	Ok Well, here's the email I got back from Numrich's. "Dear Daniel, We recently found out that this is not necessary for the purchase of the kit. If you have any further questions please feel free to contact me again. Thank You, Nancy Web Services" The link still shows the requirements, perhaps they will change it soon.

May 23, 2005, 13:13	#2
juanni Registered FALaholic #: 2439 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: up a creek in MT Posts: 8,168	Well you shouldn't be looking to buy a Romanian kit from Numbnut Arms anyway. Order from Bocefus in the marketplace or Centerfire. Less money and a lot less hassle. I mean you won't have to go through all the hoops of getting a Class 2 or 3 license for a parts kit

May 23, 2005, 13:22	#4
bouncer50 Registered FALaholic #: 10039 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 1,651	Did you notice in the picture that most of the reciever is still their just kindly make you wonder. I got one from Bocefus and it was a nice kit. News to me you need paperwork to buy a kit

May 23, 2005, 13:35	#5
bykerhd Dinosaur Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 2798 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burlington Vermont area Posts: 13,262	Haven't dealt with Centerfire, but I would recommend Bocefus.

May 23, 2005, 13:36	#6
bouncer50 Registered FALaholic #: 10039 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 1,651	Over the years buying parts from Numrich my luck has been so-so. About half the time you get some used parts that are worst then your replacing. Rusted pitted parts that should have been throw out instead of being sold. Any more i avoid buying from them unless nobody else has the parts i need

May 23, 2005, 17:56	#9
gunsmith_tony Registered FALaholic #: 6564 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,521	I just sent them an email about their documentation requirement. Lets see what they say.

May 24, 2005, 16:53	#14
gunsmith_tony Registered FALaholic #: 6564 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,521	My email to Numrich...and their reply: From your web site..."NOTE: CERTAIN DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED TO PURCHASE THIS PART. PLEASE CHOOSE THE "PRINTER FRIENDLY FORMAT" WHEN YOU CHECK OUT AND FAX OR MAIL YOUR ORDER WITH ANY ONE OF THE FOLLOWING: 1) COPY OF FORM 4 LISTING THE FIREARM THAT PARTS ARE BEING ORDERED FOR; 2) COPY OF CLASS II MANUFACTURES LICENSE; OR 3) COPY OF CLASS III DEALER LICENSE. IF WE RECEIVE YOUR ORDER WITHOUT PROPER DOCUMENTATION, THIS ITEM WILL BE CANCELLED" NONE of the above documentation is required by BATFE, or any other government entity, when purchasing a "parts kit" because a parts kit is NOT a firearm. To my knowlwdge, no other distributors currently selling ANY AK kits require any of the above documentation as it is not necessary. Why are you requiring it? Thanks. Tony/Beth Marshburn M&M Gunsmithing Visit us on the web at: www.mandmgunsmithing.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Tony, We found out last week that this was an error and are in the process of correcting this. If you have any further questions please feel free to contact me again. Thank You, Nancy Web Services

May 24, 2005, 16:57	#15
Stranger Registered FALaholic #: 3555 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 9,497	Just like Vince said, they are a thumbs up company. I have bought numerous small parts from them and have always been satisfied. __________________ If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the precipitate.

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