SAR 48 full auto - are they good guns?

nolmsted · December 20, 2004, 20:09

Greetings:

I have a chance to purchase a very good condition SAR 48 full auto rifle. I understand they are a Imbel gun made in Brazil and imported by Springfield Armory.

Does anyone have any experience with these rifles?

- function ok?
- good quality?
- any comments good or bad?

Thanks in advance for your help and Happy Holidays.

Bill

jimmy · December 20, 2004, 20:18

I have a select fire SAR-48 HB and am very pleased with it. They are a factory select fire and not a conversion.
Function has been perfect,quality about as good as it gets. I did not like the factory(grey) finish,so I sent it off to Derek at AZEX and had him refinish it in satin black with letters/numbers highlighted and had the wood refinished a bit darker,looks great.
Which configuration are you looking at getting?
Good Luck,
Jimmy

nolmsted · December 22, 2004, 20:24

This one appears to be black synthetic stock and handguards. Has fold down bipod and is in very good condition. I thought imbels were good especially a full auto that was not a conversion.

Thanks for your help and Merry Christmas.

Bill

derek huffman, azexarms · December 23, 2004, 10:00

They suck.

Who has one for sale?

D.
AZEX

MACII · December 23, 2004, 11:22

they are as good as a full auto shoulder fired 7.62 NATO can be, take that for what it is

**1gewehr** · December 23, 2004, 18:22

Quote:

Originally posted by nolmsted
I thought imbels were good especially a full auto that was not a conversion.

There were NO Imbel receivers in this country prior to 1968. Therefore ANY transferable FAL MG with an Imbel receiver IS a conversion. All of the SAR48 machineguns sold by Springfield Armory are conversions. None came from the factory as a machinegun.

Springfield did a good job of it, though. But so did LaFrance, Billistics, Pearl, and several other guys. Anyway, enjoy your HB!

1gewehr

jimmy · December 23, 2004, 19:22

1Gewehr
Good point. However I spoke with RSI about a select fire Springfield/Beretta BM-59 I had and was told that the Beretta & Imbel receivers were brought in prior to 86 as incomplete receivers and final machining(simple machine work not related to select fire function) was finished here. I really dont think that is considered a conversion.
I purchased my SAR 48 from Ken Elmore who I have done a lot of business with and he gave similar info.
I would really like to know what the real deal is also,what have you heard or read?
Thanks,
Jimmy

**1gewehr** · December 23, 2004, 19:53

It really doesn't matter who did the milling of the sear relief. It's minor work for anyone with a milling machine.
I had not heard anything about bringing in 'non-gun' receivers and doing the final machining in the US. I thought that I had read an article 'back when' that they were doing the conversions to semi recievers.
As long as it looks god and works good, who cares?!
Enjoy!
1gewehr

December 20, 2004, 20:09	#1
nolmsted Registered FALaholic #: 11094 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Olmsted, OH Posts: 12	SAR 48 full auto - are they good guns? Greetings: I have a chance to purchase a very good condition SAR 48 full auto rifle. I understand they are a Imbel gun made in Brazil and imported by Springfield Armory. Does anyone have any experience with these rifles? - function ok? - good quality? - any comments good or bad? Thanks in advance for your help and Happy Holidays. Bill

December 23, 2004, 19:53	#8
1gewehr Curio & Relic Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 2004 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: TN Posts: 2,155	It really doesn't matter who did the milling of the sear relief. It's minor work for anyone with a milling machine. I had not heard anything about bringing in 'non-gun' receivers and doing the final machining in the US. I thought that I had read an article 'back when' that they were doing the conversions to semi recievers. As long as it looks god and works good, who cares?! Enjoy! 1gewehr __________________ "Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors... and miss!"

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December 20, 2004, 20:18	#2
jimmy Registered FALaholic #: 391 Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 409	I have a select fire SAR-48 HB and am very pleased with it. They are a factory select fire and not a conversion. Function has been perfect,quality about as good as it gets. I did not like the factory(grey) finish,so I sent it off to Derek at AZEX and had him refinish it in satin black with letters/numbers highlighted and had the wood refinished a bit darker,looks great. Which configuration are you looking at getting? Good Luck, Jimmy

December 22, 2004, 20:24	#3
nolmsted Registered FALaholic #: 11094 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Olmsted, OH Posts: 12	This one appears to be black synthetic stock and handguards. Has fold down bipod and is in very good condition. I thought imbels were good especially a full auto that was not a conversion. Thanks for your help and Merry Christmas. Bill

December 23, 2004, 10:00	#4
derek huffman, azexarms Perm Banned FALaholic #: 206 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Mesa, AZ USA Posts: 1,392	They suck. Who has one for sale? D. AZEX

December 23, 2004, 11:22	#5
MACII Banned (Temp) FALaholic #: 11983 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ceder Falls IA Posts: 80	they are as good as a full auto shoulder fired 7.62 NATO can be, take that for what it is

December 23, 2004, 19:22	#7
jimmy Registered FALaholic #: 391 Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 409	1Gewehr Good point. However I spoke with RSI about a select fire Springfield/Beretta BM-59 I had and was told that the Beretta & Imbel receivers were brought in prior to 86 as incomplete receivers and final machining(simple machine work not related to select fire function) was finished here. I really dont think that is considered a conversion. I purchased my SAR 48 from Ken Elmore who I have done a lot of business with and he gave similar info. I would really like to know what the real deal is also,what have you heard or read? Thanks, Jimmy