last great Arab army?

**Shootability** · September 25, 2004, 09:46

I have been watching the original version of "Lawrence of Arabia" - splendid movie and makes me wonder if the last great arab army was actually led by an Englishman?

John Culver · September 25, 2004, 10:01

yup, I have the book (biography) and it is excellent

g5 · September 25, 2004, 10:57

Did you ever try to read T. E. Lawrence's book? Don't remember the name and don't have it anymore. A difficult read.

gman552 · September 25, 2004, 12:41

Here's an online version of T.E. Lawrence's Seven Pillars of Wisdom:

http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/l/l42s/

"All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, to make it possible. This I did."

torquemada055 · September 25, 2004, 13:14

If I had to guess I would say the one led by Saladin that captured most of the mid-east and Turkey for the moslem world way back in the middle ages.

Since they got their collective butts kicked by the Isreali's 4 or 5 times in the last 60 years.

**martin35** · September 25, 2004, 14:10

Colonial England had a history sending Military Emersaries to the middle east. Before TE Lawrence a General Chas. "Chinese" Gordon was sent to the 1880's Sudan to settle a Madhi's hash and lost his head in Kharotum.

g5 · September 25, 2004, 15:08

That's it, Gman. After about 100 pages I was worn out.

762 shooter · September 25, 2004, 16:01

T.E. Lawrence also wrote Revolt in the Desert. It is also a good read. A special note about The Seven Pillars of Wisdom is that he hand wrote the manuscript. The script was the only one in existence and was stolen from Lawrence before it was published. He had to completely rewrite the manuscript from memory, keep that in mind while you read it!

September 25, 2004, 09:46	#1
Shootability Formerly Solvability Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 6448 Join Date: May 2002 Location: HSV Posts: 2,702	last great Arab army? I have been watching the original version of "Lawrence of Arabia" - splendid movie and makes me wonder if the last great arab army was actually led by an Englishman?

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John Culver Registered FALaholic #: 6035 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Klamath Falls, OR Posts: 8,619	yup, I have the book (biography) and it is excellent __________________ The speculative line of demarcation, where obedience ought to end and resistance must begin, is faint, obscure, and not easily definable. --Burke. ---------------------- The CPU Shack - CPU History and Microprocessor Collection.

September 25, 2004, 10:57	#3
g5 Registered FALaholic #: 13024 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,292	Did you ever try to read T. E. Lawrence's book? Don't remember the name and don't have it anymore. A difficult read. __________________ eschew obfuscation Championing the Environment - everyone should have one

September 25, 2004, 12:41	#4
gman552 Registered FALaholic #: 6335 Join Date: May 2002 Location: TX Posts: 1,863	Here's an online version of T.E. Lawrence's Seven Pillars of Wisdom: http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/l/l42s/ "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, to make it possible. This I did." Last edited by gman552; September 25, 2004 at 12:48.

September 25, 2004, 13:14	#5
torquemada055 Registered FALaholic #: 15170 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: 5thBt. 31st FF Posts: 3,632	If I had to guess I would say the one led by Saladin that captured most of the mid-east and Turkey for the moslem world way back in the middle ages. Since they got their collective butts kicked by the Isreali's 4 or 5 times in the last 60 years. __________________ NEVER forget April 19, 1775, and hell NO the bridge aint for sale!! I know, let's abolish the Fed, get out of the u.n. and kick them out of the country, close our borders and deport all illegals, bring every military member back home and close all foreign military bases. Cut ALL tax rates personal and business to 11%, abolish all unconstitutional federal agencies. It'll hurt but it would help us as a country.

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martin35 when legend becomes fact Contributor Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 2939 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 16,841	Colonial England had a history sending Military Emersaries to the middle east. Before TE Lawrence a General Chas. "Chinese" Gordon was sent to the 1880's Sudan to settle a Madhi's hash and lost his head in Kharotum.

September 25, 2004, 15:08	#7
g5 Registered FALaholic #: 13024 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,292	That's it, Gman. After about 100 pages I was worn out. __________________ eschew obfuscation Championing the Environment - everyone should have one

September 25, 2004, 16:01	#8
762 shooter Registered FALaholic #: 13431 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Newcastle CA Posts: 1,436	T.E. Lawrence also wrote Revolt in the Desert. It is also a good read. A special note about The Seven Pillars of Wisdom is that he hand wrote the manuscript. The script was the only one in existence and was stolen from Lawrence before it was published. He had to completely rewrite the manuscript from memory, keep that in mind while you read it! __________________ Pacifism is the abdication of life. Am fear nach gleidh na h-airm san t-sith, cha bhi iad aige 'n am a' chogaidh.

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