BANLESS Para FAL!!!(*added range report*)

davidp14 · September 12, 2004, 23:09

Assaults weapons ban? We don need no stinking ban!!

Complete Para kit built on a coonan rec. US parts: blah, blah.....LOOK IT FOLDS!!!!!.............AND SUPPRESS FLASHES!!!!!

Rooster · September 12, 2004, 23:18

Quote:

Originally posted by familyman357
Uh.... you are aware that the AWB doesn't expire for almost 24 hours, right?

According to the ATF website, the ban has already expired

davidp14 · September 12, 2004, 23:23

Quote:

Originally posted by familyman357
Uh.... you are aware that the AWB doesn't expire for almost 24 hours, right?

Sorry buddy your wrong........It expired about 25 minutes ago.......

familyman357 · September 12, 2004, 23:26

OK, I'll buy that. I just cruised awbansunset.com.

From awbansunset.com:

"* Note: There has been a lot of confusion over this, but I think the law is clear... the ban expires at midnight on the 13th (in other words, the night of the 12th). The sunset provision dictates that the ban is "repealed effective the date that is 10 years after [the date of enactment]." The ban was enacted on 9/13/94, therefore effective 9/13/04, the ban is no longer in effect.

Where the confusion likely stems from is that the restrictions of the ban did not take effect until the following day, the 14th. So, some people think the ban expires 10 years from that day. But, the law clearly states that E-day is 10 years from the date of enactment, which makes it the 13th.

In addition, when I called the ATF's public affairs division a week or two ago, I was told the ban expires on the 13th (though this was not an "official" statement).

On top of that, there is confusion as to what constitutes the first moment of a day... when a reference is made to "midnight September 13th," that means the first moment of Monday, not the last.

You can make your own decision as to whether to celebrate the ban's demise tonight, or tomorrow night, but the wording of the law seems to clearly indicate tonight. But if you fear ATF agents will come crashing through your windows if you put your new upper on, you might want to wait until tomorrow."

TapperMan · September 12, 2004, 23:52

It's over... www.atf.gov

darkknight9 · September 13, 2004, 06:12

Quote:

Originally posted by familyman357
OK, I'll buy that. I just cruised awbansunset.com.

From awbansunset.com:

"* Note: There has been a lot of confusion over this, but I think the law is clear... the ban expires at midnight on the 13th (in other words, the night of the 12th). The sunset provision dictates that the ban is "repealed effective the date that is 10 years after [the date of enactment]." The ban was enacted on 9/13/94, therefore effective 9/13/04, the ban is no longer in effect.

Where the confusion likely stems from is that the restrictions of the ban did not take effect until the following day, the 14th. So, some people think the ban expires 10 years from that day. But, the law clearly states that E-day is 10 years from the date of enactment, which makes it the 13th.

In addition, when I called the ATF's public affairs division a week or two ago, I was told the ban expires on the 13th (though this was not an "official" statement).

On top of that, there is confusion as to what constitutes the first moment of a day... when a reference is made to "midnight September 13th," that means the first moment of Monday, not the last.

You can make your own decision as to whether to celebrate the ban's demise tonight, or tomorrow night, but the wording of the law seems to clearly indicate tonight. But if you fear ATF agents will come crashing through your windows if you put your new upper on, you might want to wait until tomorrow."

Yeah, see now had you read the entire law, you would know....

(just ribbin ya!)

cliffy109 · September 13, 2004, 08:38

Very nice David! We need to shoot that thing at Hite Hollow on the 26th.

davidp14 · September 13, 2004, 09:02

Quote:

Originally posted by cliffy109
Very nice David! We need to shoot that thing at Hite Hollow on the 26th.

See you then! You gonna bring that elephant gun of yours? I havent put a good bruise on my shoulder in a while.

cliffy109 · September 13, 2004, 09:52

Quote:

Originally posted by davidp14

See you then! You gonna bring that elephant gun of yours? I havent put a good bruise on my shoulder in a while.

270 grain bullet at 2600 fps. Let's see how many you can take!

davidp14 · September 13, 2004, 10:15

I'm guessing five or six.....at least.

R4 fan · September 13, 2004, 20:39

And that folks, is what FREEDOM looks like.

familyman357 · September 13, 2004, 22:07

Quote:

Originally posted by darkknight9

Yeah, see now had you read the entire law, you would know....

(just ribbin ya!)

LOL!! Ya got me! What goes around, comes around! LOL!!

762minigun · September 14, 2004, 02:01

Quote:

Originally posted by davidp14
Assaults weapons ban? We don need no stinking ban!!

Complete Para kit built on a coonan rec. US parts: blah, blah.....LOOK IT FOLDS!!!!!.............AND SUPPRESS FLASHES!!!!!

Yeah but how long has it been folding????

Nice rifle .........

davidp14 · September 14, 2004, 08:20

Quote:

Originally posted by 762minigun

Yeah but how long has it been folding????

Nice rifle .........

Uhhh..........Oh about 30something hours, of course

g5 · September 14, 2004, 12:29

Glad to see it!

davidp14 · September 16, 2004, 15:49

Bump becasue I fixed the link and I took her out today and put about 300rds down range.

She runs like a top!! this thing flings brass farther than any other FAL Ive ever seen! even all the way open it throws them about 20ft, on about 3 they go into orbit!!

She's pretty accurate too. I didnt print any groups but shes at least minute of bowling pin at around 75 yards.

BOTTOM LINE:
Shes my new favorite FAL (but dont tell the others in the safe)

masman · September 16, 2004, 16:35

very nice

am i seeing things or is that a covered gas block/front sight like the holland fals?

davidp14 · September 16, 2004, 17:02

Its just a normal, closed eared, front sight protector.

g5 · September 16, 2004, 22:29

Thanks for a very nice report! You should be proud!

JoeLad · September 17, 2004, 08:32

Very cool! Now I know what I want my Para to look like.

JoeLad

September 12, 2004, 23:09	#1
davidp14 Registered FALaholic #: 9655 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: VA usa Posts: 589	*BANLESS Para FAL!!!(added range report)* Assaults weapons ban? We don need no stinking ban!! Complete Para kit built on a coonan rec. US parts: blah, blah.....LOOK IT FOLDS!!!!!.............AND SUPPRESS FLASHES!!!!! Last edited by davidp14; September 16, 2004 at 15:51.

September 12, 2004, 23:26	#4
familyman357 Registered FALaholic #: 11502 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Northwest Ohio Posts: 804	OK, I'll buy that. I just cruised awbansunset.com. From awbansunset.com: "* Note: There has been a lot of confusion over this, but I think the law is clear... the ban expires at midnight on the 13th (in other words, the night of the 12th). The sunset provision dictates that the ban is "repealed effective the date that is 10 years after [the date of enactment]." The ban was enacted on 9/13/94, therefore effective 9/13/04, the ban is no longer in effect. Where the confusion likely stems from is that the restrictions of the ban did not take effect until the following day, the 14th. So, some people think the ban expires 10 years from that day. But, the law clearly states that E-day is 10 years from the date of enactment, which makes it the 13th. In addition, when I called the ATF's public affairs division a week or two ago, I was told the ban expires on the 13th (though this was not an "official" statement). On top of that, there is confusion as to what constitutes the first moment of a day... when a reference is made to "midnight September 13th," that means the first moment of Monday, not the last. You can make your own decision as to whether to celebrate the ban's demise tonight, or tomorrow night, but the wording of the law seems to clearly indicate tonight. But if you fear ATF agents will come crashing through your windows if you put your new upper on, you might want to wait until tomorrow." Last edited by familyman357; September 12, 2004 at 23:32.

September 13, 2004, 08:38	#7
cliffy109 Registered FALaholic #: 8571 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 2,229	Very nice David! We need to shoot that thing at Hite Hollow on the 26th. __________________ All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

September 14, 2004, 12:29	#15
g5 Registered FALaholic #: 13024 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,292	Glad to see it! __________________ eschew obfuscation Championing the Environment - everyone should have one

September 16, 2004, 16:35	#17
masman Registered FALaholic #: 781 Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 5,653	very nice am i seeing things or is that a covered gas block/front sight like the holland fals? __________________ somethings wrong with the world when the best rapper is white.the best golfer is black.the french think that the us is arrogant and the germans don't want to go to war

September 12, 2004, 23:52	#5
TapperMan Registered FALaholic #: 1992 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Madison,WI,USA Posts: 312	It's over... www.atf.gov

September 13, 2004, 10:15	#10
davidp14 Registered FALaholic #: 9655 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: VA usa Posts: 589	I'm guessing five or six.....at least.

September 13, 2004, 20:39	#11
R4 fan Registered FALaholic #: 1442 Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 1,581	And that folks, is what FREEDOM looks like.

September 16, 2004, 15:49	#16
davidp14 Registered FALaholic #: 9655 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: VA usa Posts: 589	Bump becasue I fixed the link and I took her out today and put about 300rds down range. She runs like a top!! this thing flings brass farther than any other FAL Ive ever seen! even all the way open it throws them about 20ft, on about 3 they go into orbit!! She's pretty accurate too. I didnt print any groups but shes at least minute of bowling pin at around 75 yards. BOTTOM LINE: Shes my new favorite FAL (but dont tell the others in the safe)

September 16, 2004, 17:02	#18
davidp14 Registered FALaholic #: 9655 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: VA usa Posts: 589	Its just a normal, closed eared, front sight protector.

September 16, 2004, 22:29	#19
g5 Registered FALaholic #: 13024 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,292	Thanks for a very nice report! You should be proud! __________________ eschew obfuscation Championing the Environment - everyone should have one

September 17, 2004, 08:32	#20
JoeLad Registered FALaholic #: 3353 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: SE PA Posts: 3,243	Very cool! Now I know what I want my Para to look like. JoeLad

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