Portugeese with hard primers

Wade Kimmell · August 29, 2004, 19:02

I thought that I'd give you guys a warning about some hard primers I've found.

With two cases of BF 79 99 Port I've had around 20 rounds that needed a second strike to fire.

I've now switched to Aussie in my ready mags and relegated Port to practice. They shoot to the same zero in my guns.

BTW, I have new hammer and firing pin springs in my rifles

critterflht · September 02, 2004, 22:16

Port is notorious for hard primers. One thing you might check though, see if your locking plate is impeding movement of your hammer at its forwardmost travel. The locking plate may not be allowing a full hard strike on the FP-
Lee

Wade Kimmell · September 02, 2004, 23:13

The locking plate in my lower looks just like the rest of them I have. Its not really any big deal since I have a good bit of Aussie to shoot. Thanks for the suggestion.

--W

FAL-13 · September 03, 2004, 21:46

Hard primers on Port. has been beat to death. If your gun has problems with Port. its not the ammo. Had same problem with a L1A1 with FSE hts . When I put original hts back in rifle , no problems.

spartacus2002 · December 12, 2004, 13:42

I had a 20% misfire rate today with port in my Imbel FAL, yet no problems with my M1A and the same box of ammo. FAL fires aussie no problems.

Could my FAL firing pin be worn out?

ftierson · December 12, 2004, 18:18

As an aside, I have some Czech ZV69 7.62 NATO (marked T65 on the Czech wooden case) that has hard, black painted, primers. I have about a 20 percent failure to fire on the first strike with a SAR-48. Two CAI CETME clones that I have eat this same stuff up with zero failures to fire. A model 98 Mauser fires it with no problems.

The FAL just doesn't provide quite the same impact to the primer that some other rifles do...

Having said that, I have fired lots of Portuguese 7.62mm NATO ammo in FALs with zero failures to fire (including in the SAR-48 mentioned above)...

August 29, 2004, 19:02	#1
Wade Kimmell Registered FALaholic #: 5903 Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 355	Portugeese with hard primers I thought that I'd give you guys a warning about some hard primers I've found. With two cases of BF 79 99 Port I've had around 20 rounds that needed a second strike to fire. I've now switched to Aussie in my ready mags and relegated Port to practice. They shoot to the same zero in my guns. BTW, I have new hammer and firing pin springs in my rifles __________________ D.V.C. -- Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas "Fear God, and take your own part!"--Theodore Roosevelt Neca eos omnes. Duos suos agnoscet!

September 02, 2004, 22:16	#2
critterflht Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 6701 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC Posts: 647	Port is notorious for hard primers. One thing you might check though, see if your locking plate is impeding movement of your hammer at its forwardmost travel. The locking plate may not be allowing a full hard strike on the FP- Lee __________________ Remember, it takes 42 muscles to produce a frown, but only 4 muscles to pull a trigger. The truth ALWAYS offends someone... SHORTEST FAIRY TALE EVER: Once upon a time a guy asked a girl: "Will you marry me?", She said "No", and the guy lived happily ever after.

September 02, 2004, 23:13	#3
Wade Kimmell Registered FALaholic #: 5903 Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 355	The locking plate in my lower looks just like the rest of them I have. Its not really any big deal since I have a good bit of Aussie to shoot. Thanks for the suggestion. --W __________________ D.V.C. -- Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas "Fear God, and take your own part!"--Theodore Roosevelt Neca eos omnes. Duos suos agnoscet!

September 03, 2004, 21:46	#4
FAL-13 Registered FALaholic #: 3467 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Mandeville Louisiana Posts: 132	Hard primers on Port. has been beat to death. If your gun has problems with Port. its not the ammo. Had same problem with a L1A1 with FSE hts . When I put original hts back in rifle , no problems. __________________ NRA LIFE MEMBER

December 12, 2004, 13:42	#5
spartacus2002 Registered FALaholic #: 7229 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tidewater VA Posts: 454	I had a 20% misfire rate today with port in my Imbel FAL, yet no problems with my M1A and the same box of ammo. FAL fires aussie no problems. Could my FAL firing pin be worn out? __________________ If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. -Samuel Adams

December 12, 2004, 18:18	#6
ftierson Registered FALaholic #: 13827 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 11,046	As an aside, I have some Czech ZV69 7.62 NATO (marked T65 on the Czech wooden case) that has hard, black painted, primers. I have about a 20 percent failure to fire on the first strike with a SAR-48. Two CAI CETME clones that I have eat this same stuff up with zero failures to fire. A model 98 Mauser fires it with no problems. The FAL just doesn't provide quite the same impact to the primer that some other rifles do... Having said that, I have fired lots of Portuguese 7.62mm NATO ammo in FALs with zero failures to fire (including in the SAR-48 mentioned above)...

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