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Old June 25, 2017, 20:47   #1
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L2A1 on GB

Just saw this on GB, looks real nice: http://www.gunbroker.com/item/659751859
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Old June 25, 2017, 20:55   #2
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Old June 25, 2017, 21:56   #3
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How did such a nice condition FAL get such a crappy buttstock?
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Old June 25, 2017, 22:11   #4
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How did such a nice condition FAL get such a crappy buttstock?
So I'm not the only one who thought it looked like driftwood?
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Old June 26, 2017, 05:44   #5
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What's the story with that rear sight?
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I'm going for it!

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Old June 26, 2017, 07:34   #7
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Beautiful and a good investment i'm sure.
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I'm going for it!
I may have to drive down and fondle it before you do Dean! About an hr from me on the way to see family down south of Houston. You may have to ask for the drool marks to be removed before it's shipped your way.

Now I do wonder what magic you can work making your own furniture for it. Me thinks the most strikingly gorgeous L2 ever may be in the making.
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Old June 26, 2017, 12:23   #9
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I'm going for it!
Best of luck, you would adorn it with the wood it truly deserves.
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Old June 26, 2017, 19:30   #10
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What's the story with that rear sight?
What about it? Looks like a standard L2A1 rear sight to me.
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Old June 26, 2017, 19:43   #11
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What about it? Looks like a standard L2A1 rear sight to me.
But if one has never seen one before and is used to the L1A1 sight, it looks a bit odd, eh? Not everyone has seen it all.
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Old June 26, 2017, 20:04   #12
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So I'm not the only one who thought it looked like driftwood?
Coachwood....
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Old June 26, 2017, 21:50   #13
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Did anyone else notice in their "other auctions" that they have an early Enterprise ABNI receivered Aussie rifle. Strange thing is the S/N.
It is almost identical to the L2A1.
L2 S/N: 860068
L1 S/N: 8600068
Makes me think same person owned both rifles and had a custom S/N for the Enterprise ABNI!

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Old June 26, 2017, 21:58   #14
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I may have to drive down and fondle it before you do Dean! About an hr from me on the way to see family down south of Houston. You may have to ask for the drool marks to be removed before it's shipped your way. ..

I'm driving through El Campo myself in a couple days......
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Old June 26, 2017, 23:13   #15
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Did anyone else notice in their "other auctions" that they have an early Enterprise ABNI receivered Aussie rifle. Strange thing is the S/N.
It is almost identical to the L2A1.
L2 S/N: 860068
L1 S/N: 8600068
Makes me think same person owned both rifles and had a custom S/N for the Enterprise ABNI!
I noticed that too. It's almost as though they have got hold of someone's collection. Had me wondering how this place seemed to have a horde of FAL's to sell.
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Old June 26, 2017, 23:48   #16
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What's the story with that rear sight?
Tangent rear sight... if it is an original (i.e., not re-welded to a standard cover), that top cover alone is worth $500+ IIRC
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Old June 27, 2017, 00:37   #17
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I noticed that too. It's almost as though they have got hold of someone's collection. Had me wondering how this place seemed to have a horde of FAL's to sell.
I talked to the shop owner this morning and he informed me that it was a private collection. I drive through there almost every weekend.
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Tangent rear sight... if it is an original (i.e., not re-welded to a standard cover), that top cover alone is worth $500+ IIRC
People bidding here my friend let's not run it up any more......
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I find it curious that they would have 2 guns with the same number as the configuration of the finished gun is unknown at the S/n stamping stage and why the factory would stamp the serial numbers upside down and backwards. sort of like the "genuine phillipino S&W revolvers with the trade marks reversed due to being copied from a photo.
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I find it curious that they would have 2 guns with the same number as the configuration of the finished gun is unknown at the S/n stamping stage and why the factory would stamp the serial numbers upside down and backwards. sort of like the "genuine phillipino S&W revolvers with the trade marks reversed due to being copied from a photo.
Inverted serial numbers were standard on Lithgow builds and rebuilds from about 1971 onward. Could be the builder started out with one of the NOS lowers from Lithgow that had the inverted "AD" pre-stamped.
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But if one has never seen one before and is used to the L1A1 sight, it looks a bit odd, eh? Not everyone has seen it all.
Good point, Skennerton's SLR book was my first FAL book. That said, I was left wondering if there was something off about that rear sight that I'd missed.
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I need to get to a gunshop like that. The rack in the background seems to be loaded with all sorts of fun stuff. I have not seen a rack that nice in a long time
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Looks to be at least 6 other FALs in the rack.
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Old June 30, 2017, 15:16   #24
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I'm driving through El Campo myself in a couple days......
Sorry brother... was prolly drankin when I posted that....
shortly before I went fondle my C2 tangent cover...
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Old June 30, 2017, 18:08   #25
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Old June 30, 2017, 18:24   #26
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this is what I get for drinking wine last night and over sleeping, had this in my watch list and was ready for war.. F**K
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Congrats to fly paper on nice L2 tangent sight and all , I would like to know did Eden import L2 or is she built after the fact , either way nice rifle at great price
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Congrats to fly paper on nice L2 tangent sight and all , I would like to know did Eden import L2 or is she built after the fact , either way nice rifle at great price

Thanks, it was one of my divorce presents to myself.

From what I have read, these were built in the US from Aussie receivers that may not have been complete. Some were NOS parts kits and some were miss matched kits that even had British parts... I believe this is the first of the two.

All I need now is a pistol grip and new wood for the bipod to match that awesome stock.
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Congrats to fly paper on nice L2 tangent sight and all , I would like to know did Eden import L2 or is she built after the fact , either way nice rifle at great price
There were a VERY small number of L2s (semi and go-fast versions) built on imported Lithgow receivers before the 1986 machine gun ban. However, I don't remember if those were built on Poyer, Onyx or Eden imports.
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There are a few Poyer, I think 8 of which 6 are semis and 2 full auto. There was a discussion on this sometime ago. There are a few Edens. I have never seen an Onyx. There also a few built on "sample" receivers that came in literally hand carried days before the ban. Most I have seen were in Arizona. All are kit rifles and only Poyer rifles were marked so they can be confirmed as built as L2s.
So actual L2 rifles built on Lithgow receivers is probably less than 20.
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cool gun congratulations on the score mr. fly
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Thanks, it was one of my divorce presents to myself.

From what I have read, these were built in the US from Aussie receivers that may not have been complete. Some were NOS parts kits and some were miss matched kits that even had British parts... I believe this is the first of the two.

All I need now is a pistol grip and new wood for the bipod to match that awesome stock.
I have Aus number 11 L2A1, I'm told Joe power built her , but I was curious if some Eden were also built as L2 coming in , I understood that either Eden , onxy did the grunt work on the import, does your gun have crossed flags on the receiver ring I'm told that means built at Lithgow
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I have Aus number 11 L2A1, I'm told Joe power built her , but I was curious if some Eden were also built as L2 coming in , I understood that either Eden , onxy did the grunt work on the import, does your gun have crossed flags on the receiver ring I'm told that means built at Lithgow
It probably won't be in my hands until the week of the 10th... i'll see what I can find when I get it.
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Thanks, it was one of my divorce presents to myself.

From what I have read, these were built in the US from Aussie receivers that may not have been complete. Some were NOS parts kits and some were miss matched kits that even had British parts... I believe this is the first of the two.

All I need now is a pistol grip and new wood for the bipod to match that awesome stock.


Also here is my old Eden not far off ser # on your new rifle she had crossed flags I bet yours wil also

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=397314
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On the Poyer L2s they were not numbered sequentially . I talked with Joe on several occasions concerning his Swedish mauser book. I mention the Poyer L2s and we met up at the SAR show in I think 99. He said the numbers were chosen between 1 and 24 or 25. He said he thought that would make them harder to fake. What is sad is that I didn't get a list of the numbers. I thought about it and went back on Sunday but he headed back home. I know he had them and the serial numbers. They were built as parts kits and he said he never thought they would be worth much anyway. As I recall those receivers were proofs he had before the L1A1s came in. We would have to check numbers against L1A1s (anyone have those?) Even so Joe said he went to Lithgow and worked the deal so they may have been pulled at random. Joe said he ordered more and wanted Lithgow to "get them out". Lithgow said that the US would never ban semi-autos according to company sources. Joe said he had several hundred more on order. Well, we know how that turned out.
As a side note he said someone asked the Canadians to built C1s for the US market and they said no to exports.
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On the Poyer L2s they were not numbered sequentially . I talked with Joe on several occasions concerning his Swedish mauser book. I mention the Poyer L2s and we met up at the SAR show in I think 99. He said the numbers were chosen between 1 and 24 or 25. He said he thought that would make them harder to fake. What is sad is that I didn't get a list of the numbers. I thought about it and went back on Sunday but he headed back home. I know he had them and the serial numbers. They were built as parts kits and he said he never thought they would be worth much anyway. As I recall those receivers were proofs he had before the L1A1s came in. We would have to check numbers against L1A1s (anyone have those?) Even so Joe said he went to Lithgow and worked the deal so they may have been pulled at random. Joe said he ordered more and wanted Lithgow to "get them out". Lithgow said that the US would never ban semi-autos according to company sources. Joe said he had several hundred more on order. Well, we know how that turned out.
As a side note he said someone asked the Canadians to built C1s for the US market and they said no to exports.
My L2 is marked 70 11 on the lower. AUS 11 on the receiver , 70 11 on the boot and 70 11 under the top cover
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Crossed flags simply means has been proofed. Could be UK or Lithgow manufacture but rest of build suggests Lithgow.

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As a side note he said someone asked the Canadians to built C1s for the US market and they said no to exports.
Yes. Part of what led to Longbranch's demise...after the Canadian Forces contracts were filled by the mid-60s, they basically had nothing to do.
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Crossed flags simply means has been proofed. Could be UK or Lithgow manufacture but rest of build suggests Lithgow.
Crossed flags on brit receiver ? Also has the ABN and 8 I know the crossed flags on the receiver means it was finished at the factory,I thought that meant Lithgow only the Brits did the same thing on the receiver ring ?

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It has the cross flags.
I decided to try and match the bipod wood.

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It has the cross flags.
I decided to try and match the bipod wood.

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Drool...that came out NICE!!!
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It has the cross flags.
I decided to try and match the bipod wood.

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Nice wood, but do us a favor and shoot the thing and tell us how it shoots please.
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Very nice flypaper, love the stock
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Had Flypaper not had bidding dibs on this rifle and us have a Gentleman's agreement not to back stab each other on files (shooting each other center of mass face to face is quite acceptable) I would have run the bidding up. Have a set of Yellowhand's Aussie wood plus a couple other proper stocks that are nicer than what's on this unit. Based on description would have gambled that description of bore was accurate. Wife would have just had to suck up the credit card bill from Hades. Congrats sir and if decide to part with the gal at some point give me a shout.
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Had Flypaper not had bidding dibs on this rifle and us have a Gentleman's agreement not to back stab each other on files (shooting each other center of mass face to face is quite acceptable) I would have run the bidding up. Have a set of Yellowhand's Aussie wood plus a couple other proper stocks that are nicer than what's on this unit. Based on description would have gambled that description of bore was accurate. Wife would have just had to suck up the credit card bill from Hades. Congrats sir and if decide to part with the gal at some point give me a shout.

All I said was I was going to "go for it"
The price went up $500 from it's original auction price, and I won by $1.01....

Even at that price, I'm happy I got it.
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If I had jumped in would have been temp tempted to set my max bid at $4,510.50. Would have knocked $4,500 bids out of running. Parted out (would be a shame to do it) barrel would possibly bring $2,500. Gas block anther $500 or so. Actually upsets me to see nice numbers matching rifles parted out but bring more money most times. Have three "nice" FAL'S and will sell complete even if parting out would make more money. Some of my mix-masters would be parted if sold. If down the road you decide to sell will make a fair offer if don't find my unicorn before that day comes. Be blessed brother, that's a fine rifle, PM Yellowhand for a stock and your perfect.
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