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Old April 04, 2017, 07:25   #451
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Broke the big map down to state of Georgia. One the northeast side of big lake that's north of Atlanta will see a little black dot which is my rough location. Anything north, northwest or northeast of my dot is farm land and mountains. South end of our county has been overrun with Atlanta commuters. The 2008 economic crash saved my @$$ as the subdivisions were marching my way but only one small one was established on my road.



Those bums that burned down I-78/I-85 may have done me another favor as a lot of folks are already trying to figure out how to move closer to work if job is downtown. Maybe will get lucky and new I-85 north widning project through Gwinnett will have some crack heads burn it down too but at least know how to drop the interstate bridges and elevated areas close by easily now if need be. Fire is insprirational.

Luckily most of the farms around me are still profitable due to poultry and cattle. Listening to birds chirp, watching the lake and no traffic of any consequence going by house. Need to get my @$$ out the door and on to work but lingering deciding which rifles are going with me to range for sight in and function verification today. About four is all I have time for and get my work done. Next door neighbor and I already have a plan to farm his field and protect it. At present three households in immediate area will have to go preemptive on immediately. Owners heirs turned into rentals waiting for lake front property prices to recover and the tenants will either have to be dealt with on front end or very soon after and once they get real hungry will have evil intent on their minds. Most of the houses around me are second or third generation residents and will work together like their parents did.
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[/snip]Most of the houses around me are second or third generation residents and will work together like their parents did.
They survived *grid down* ?





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One of the issues now, is can the US afford to allow any missile launch in North Korea. I can pass along things are a little more uptight at the moment.
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One of the issues now, is can the US afford to allow any missile launch in North Korea. I can pass along things are a little more uptight at the moment.
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http://politichicks.com/2017/04/nort...ding-anywhere/
Seems all the pieces are falling into place for North Korea to go down and what they do as they go down is anyone's guess.
Food, water, ammo, friends and a place to ride out the storm.
Not much more than that any of us normal people can do.
As in, its out of our hands.
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Seems all the pieces are falling into place for North Korea to go down and what they do as they go down is anyone's guess.
Food, water, ammo, friends and a place to ride out the storm.
Not much more than that any of us normal people can do.
As in, its out of our hands.
I wish you were wroong on this, but your observation is spot on.
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I don't expect a worst case event with NK here in the USA. Could get real ugly over there tho. I have a windmill and well that supplies water for the cows. I'll be drinking their water if things go bad here. If things get real bad the cows will be next on the menu.
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I don't expect a worst case event with NK here in the USA. Could get real ugly over there tho. I have a windmill and well that supplies water for the cows. I'll be drinking their water if things go bad here. If things get real bad the cows will be next on the menu.
Living in the desert, have three generators, two brand new, new ones sealed in metal boxes, on rubber castors, a spare well pump and control box, both sealed in metal boxes.
Two large water tanks, full, and if I could place a wind mill here, I'd do that too.
At 280 feet, they don;t work well here at all.
Got enough fuel stored, best guess, to draw water for three years or more.

On the metal boxes for the equipment, took a drawing of what I wanted to a local heating and cooling company here and they made them for me, pretty cheap too.
Rolled rims and extremely tight fitting opening.
Should work as a Faraday cage.
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Nice, you and Huey are about the best prepped files guys.

Hope ya survive Forever.

I have got to the point of "don't give Fook"..







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Living in the desert, have three generators, two brand new, new ones sealed in metal boxes, on rubber castors, a spare well pump and control box, both sealed in metal boxes.
Two large water tanks, full, and if I could place a wind mill here, I'd do that too.
At 280 feet, they don;t work well here at all.
Got enough fuel stored, best guess, to draw water for three years or more.

On the metal boxes for the equipment, took a drawing of what I wanted to a local heating and cooling company here and they made them for me, pretty cheap too.
Rolled rims and extremely tight fitting opening.
Should work as a Faraday cage.
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Hope ya survive Forever.

I have got to the point of "don't give Fook"..
Naw, living forever never works out well for vampires or you end up shitting and pissing ya pants at a certain point, neither good options.

But I sure as hell don;t want to die of thirst, ugh, that would be the shits.

Now in the saddle with a long legged blond,,,,,,,,,,
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Yes, the Russians and Chinese will poster, pontificate and it will be sketchy for a bit but they don't want our nuclear arsenal unleashed and will see the light.
Good thing the Russians have a history of being effeminate surrender monkeys who would curl into a ball if faced with a papercut. And do not have the gear to return the favour because they are a nation of illiterates.
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They have been testy about the UK comments about keeping Russia in check.
http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/26/britai...warns-6597648/
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Good thing the Russians have a history of being effeminate surrender monkeys who would curl into a ball if faced with a papercut. And do not have the gear to return the favour because they are a nation of illiterates.

You funny.

Don't forget their belief they can be victorious against a first strike nuke attack.

We've been so busy smart bombing goat fucgking, 3rd world Mohammedans we forget what a real enemy is like.
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Still have so much work having to hit locations on Mothers Day then go to shop and prep for tomorrow. Friend who's mother has passed is driving so I can navigate and rest between locations plus have a place to stop and let him run an AR with binary trigger and compare to his Slidefire AR. Was pilfering through console and not one but two compasses popped out as laying stuff on dash looking to see how many 5.56 magazines were under the 6.8 redundant spares. Couldn't understand why needed a compass with two GPS's on dash along with tablet and smartphone with Google Earth.

Said not only do I have a prismatic and orienteering compass in console there is a nice compass in bug out pack along with a zipper pull compass. Every zipper on little daypack has some zipper pull device like small watch battery powered LED lights, a U.V. LED and a small Swiss Army Knife. Explained if an EMP killed all electronics on board beyond all the spare fuses, relays, fuseable links, coil, rotator button, distributor cap even spare computer brain and spark plugs in Faraday box can't revive the ol thing. Try to keep most plausible truck killer parts not easily scavenged in toolbox but if can't bring it up to roll start capabilities will have to walk and odds are high may be over two to three hours drive away thus day or two walk from house based on how discrete need to be. Why have the pack, spare overt vest can load with most equipment need close to hands and minimum of one rifle.

In briefcase is a map book with all of North Georgia, South Carolina and Western NC. Any farther from house will be in big truck with a paper atlas with all of North America. Cooler has two days of Gatorade and small water filter in pack. With snacks can scrounge from truck, PowerBars in pack and once re-sort gear to what actually need and what to abandon at least two compasses will go with me. Even if not an EMP and roads closed due to martial law will shut down devices soon as get message to wife so towers are not tracking them and me heading for home. With most under 35 unable to function without Google Earth, Google Taskbar and smartphone imagine most walkers will be lost and starve getting home. How big of a deal is it to have two compasses ready in pack if have to un@$$ truck fast to bolt ASAP and two in truck if somehow forgot pack or left at home due to passenger and heavy rain and didn't want to risk rain getting through pack cover and killing laptop. Netbook is in briefcase and always have it along with an empty daypack in toolbox can pack from truck inventory if required, especially for second person like today. We would both have armor, rifles and a pack. Remember to keep a compass in all vehicles, some form of map or sense of direction and know how to use them.
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You funny.

Don't forget their belief they can be victorious against a first strike nuke attack.

We've been so busy smart bombing goat fucgking, 3rd world Mohammedans we forget what a real enemy is like.
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Good thing the Russians have a history of being effeminate surrender monkeys who would curl into a ball if faced with a papercut. And do not have the gear to return the favour because they are a nation of illiterates.
Well, I can attest that the Russians admire many things that the Frankish culture offers. Laying down arms is not one of them, painful paper cuts notwithstanding.
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My house has one of the best recommended end and the shown devices except UPS's instead of power strips.



At work the three phase version.



Many install these and think they are fine. Installs in-line with with panel and supposed to protect entire house. What about your phone line? That might be the largest amount of copper wire interconnected world wide.



How about your cable television wire.



I prefer gas tube over most for service entrances as can replace tubes only rather than entire device. Are all your lines entering structure tied to a common ground? Phone techs and cable/satellite guys are worst about not pulling a wire to your electrical ground but if don't any impulse is getting in that way.

This is one of my arrestor boxes for radio equipmemt, has double the lines and arrestors now and had to install a second.



Come inside then even with entire panel protection and low voltage lines protected have over a dozen UPS's in house and two dozen at work for mosfets to back up gas tubes and other mosfets. At work have over 80 ground rods bonded with a double run of 2,000 feet of copper. Have mix of stainless and copper connectors and Cadwell bonds to ensure wires don't rot off the rods. Your rods and connectors need partially excavated and inspected every decade at the least. Three rods is minimum at severe panel entrance. At home use a halo ground system with about 20 ground rods including a few multipiece can keep driving till hit bedrock. Friend does a lot of government ground work and often drives 20 to 40 feet of rod anchoring each corner of ground system. Also have two rooms at work and home that entire rooms are Faraday caged. Inside them have Faraday boxes to store spare fuses, electrical parts and complete equipment.

EMP is no joke and if it hits only the best prepared might have systems survive. By time an EMP gets to my computer the power has been filtered three times and computer is running off DC inverter side of industrial UPS. The DSL line was protected at service entrance, just before router and then before critical devices. And I don't kid myself, if a lightning bolt travels a few miles from clouds to ground are my preps going to shunt it or is it going to crispy fry them on way to devices? Why have spare devices put away, unattached till needed. A tin foil hat or single device that's plug and play won't save your electronics from a lightning strike, solar flare or nuclear EMP. Triple redundancy with stunning ground system a little luck and might keep your stuff up. Is your HVAC compressor isolated with suppressors? It's nothing but a big antenna waiting to feed an impulse back into an otherwise we'll protected facility. Every single wire entering a structure better be covered. Have more money invested in my surge protection systems than most have in a car. If needed, might just keep a few things. Gotta jet or this would become the wall of all walls of text.

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Just a note that in DHS EMP has moved from around #40 to #3 threat issue. This is because of the new leadership and the situation that we are now in.
Anyway, thing of interest was the Strategic Coal Reserve. Interesting! During the 50s and 60s the govt bought hard coal, processed it, cleaned it and stored it. These storage areas were literally valleys they filled in with the coal, put topsoil over them and planted grass and trees. The properties were held by large corporations (the one I saw was US Steel, 12,000 acres). I found this as I was looking into the Air Force strategic information libraries ( same deal, libraries hidden away to be recovered later under COG plans). All of this got slowed down in the late 70s and under Clinton eliminated. Lot of the information was held in the old Defense Mapping Agency and literally burned in the 90s.
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Just a note that in DHS EMP has moved from around #40 to #3 threat issue. This is because of the new leadership and the situation that we are now in.
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Can anyone guess what the effects of an emp will be on the airbag igniters found in nearly every vehicle on the road today?
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Can anyone guess what the effects of an emp will be on the airbag igniters found in nearly every vehicle on the road today?
My guess is nothing.
Needs a command from the sudden stop thingy going off and EMP should just fry the circuits, so nothing????
If or when an EMP goes off, would not want to start my new life after having an airbag fire off in my face while driving 75 or 80 mph out here.
Would already be a bad enough day without that.
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I would suppose that command from the sudden stop thingy is going to be voltage down a wire.

They aren't that complicated, small detonator, with a small charge, apply 12 vdc and boom. I'm going to go out on a limb and say everyone driving when it happens is going to get a face full. What it is, is important to remember as they may not all go off.
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I spent half my life working in and managing salvage yards. Air bags are set off by a 12 volt charge being sent to them via the air bag controller which in turn gets it's signal from the sensors behind the grille. We used to set them off for fun by connecting jumpers wires from a car battery to the plug on the back of the air bag. No voltage, no deployment. You should see how far up in the air you can launch a couch with 4 air bags...
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My question is how close to 12 volts does it need to be and for how long?
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My question is how close to 12 volts does it need to be and for how long?
No clue if it can be less than 12 volts. I would assume so. As for how long it's instant. It has to be for the air bag to deploy before your face hits the windshield..
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FEMA Is Preparing For A Solar Storm That Would Take Out The Grid



FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Administration) is planning for a massive solar storm that would be so strong, it would take down the power grid. Noting that the rare, yet “high-consequence” scenario has “the potential for catastrophic impact on our nation and FEMA’s ability to respond.”

According to unpublished FEMA documents obtained by Government Attic, a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) database and non-profit organization, the Department of Homeland Security agency once mapped out a disaster plan for the occurrence of another geomagnetic “super storm” like the one the occurred in 1859.

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China and Russia would get far more fallout from our strikes on NK than we would from anything they toss our way, got to believe both Russia and China know this and are taking steps to ensure it does not happen, maybe????
I would expect our first targets would be all of their nuke related sites, then deal with the conventional stuff.
2000 pound J-Dams raining down onto nuclear reactors, ugly times ahead.
NK sends anything into SK, Japan, or G-D forbid US territory, they will cease to exist, what, inside a couple of hours?
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2018 NDAA Includes 13 Cruz Amendments Critical to Texas and U.S.
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“This bill marks a critical step in rebuilding our military, ensuring our national security, and fulfilling the promise to equip our men and women in uniform”

WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) today praised the passage of FY2018 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) through the Senate Armed Services Committee (SASC) markup process earlier this week, which provides numerous military necessities, including over $512 million in military construction funds to the state of Texas for 2018. Sen. Cruz sponsored 13 amendments and cosponsored six, that were successfully adopted into the bill, benefitting both Texas and our military interests abroad and in space, which will now proceed to consideration before the full U.S. Senate.

“The passage of this year’s NDAA marks a critical step in rebuilding our nation’s military, further protecting our national security interests at home and abroad, and fulfilling our promise to better equip and train our men and women in uniform for their mission,” Sen. Cruz said. “I am pleased that we were able to increase the readiness of our Armed Services and include important provisions that will benefit Texas communities across the state. This bill includes vital military construction funds necessary to Texas installations, increases the number of F-35s to ensure the continuation of our air superiority and begins the much-needed rebuilding of our military. This bill also provides a well-deserved pay increase to our brave Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines who defend our nation and freedoms every day.”

Cruz continued, “Beyond Texas, the environment overseas for the United States remains volatile, dangerous, and unpredictable. After eight years of a foreign policy geared toward appeasing America’s enemies and ignoring America’s friends, it is imperative for the United States to reassure our partners that we will stand with them in the face of current and emerging threats. Strength abroad translates to safety at home, and a revitalized American foreign policy will aid in ensuring a stable and secure American homeland.”

Sen. Cruz sponsored and cosponsored several amendments made to the NDAA specifically benefiting Texas military installations and the servicemen and women based in the Lone Star State. He also sponsored and cosponsored numerous amendments benefitting our military interests across the world and in space, specifically those that will strengthen our relations with Taiwan and India, hold accountable the hostile regimes in Iran and Venezuela, explore ways to secure vital domestic infrastructure from electromagnetic attack, and anchor American leadership in space.

The amendments he sponsored and supported directly benefitting the State of Texas include:

• Reform of DOD Site Clearinghouse to Address Windfarm Interference: Texas wind energy is an important economic contributor to our state, however communities across Texas have expressed concerns regarding the potential encroachment of windfarms upon their highly vital military installations. This NDAA recognizes the concerns of both parties and has reformed the DOD Site Clearinghouse process by removing a preference for alternative energy that was initiated by the previous administration. Sen. Cruz led a bipartisan effort to develop an equitable process for energy projects by improving the notification process, establishing the means for governors to express concerns, and ensuring that the cumulative impacts of potential energy projects are considered in a fair and non-partisan manner. This amendment is critical to Texas installations located in close proximity to wind turbine farms.

• National Guard Counterdrug Program: The National Guard plays a vital role toward assuring our security and part of their mission – particularly that of the Texas National Guard – focuses on prohibiting the flow of drugs into the United States. The Threat Based Resource Model that delineates where those federal funds are sent has been significantly altered over the years, with larger portions of those funds being directed to states that are not dealing with the border challenges created by the transport of illicit narcotics. Sen. Cruz developed an NDAA initiative that will direct an evaluation of this program to determine whether those federal funds are being efficiently and effectively utilized in accordance with the counterdrug charter of this program, which is of particular interest to the Texas National Guard’s operations along the Texas-Mexico border.

• Improving Enlisted Personnel Housing: The men and women who volunteer to serve in our defense should not be forced to live in substandard barracks or military housing. The cuts to our military that occurred under the previous administration created a situation where commanders had to make incredibly tough choices, in some cases whether to fund quality of life issues such as housing, or fund the training of men and women headed into harm’s way. They appropriately chose the latter. A service member’s quality of life has a direct impact on his or her effectiveness and therefore our nation’s readiness. Sen. Cruz addressed this concern in the NDAA and has requested the Services to increase prioritization of military housing when considering military construction submissions.

• Abilene’s Material Staging Facility Modernization: Our nation’s nuclear stockpile is a vital part of our strategic deterrent and the work being performed in Abilene’s Material Staging Facility is crucial to that enterprise. However, much of the it was built decades ago, and we should not risk extended delays to development of the National Nuclear Security Administration’s plans for its modernization. Sen. Cruz introduced an amendment that directs the NNSA to provide a plan for the future Material Staging Facility by February 2018.

• DoD Water Resource Management: Texas is particularly prone to times of drought, as recently experienced in many parts of the state 2006-2011. To ensure readiness for future times of drought, Sen. Cruz joined Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii) to direct the Department of Defense (DOD) to develop a roadmap that addresses capability gaps for water production, treatment and purification, and a strategy to ensure our military installations’ water needs are adequately met.

• Texas Education Partnerships with USAF: The USAF currently faces a shortfall of aircraft maintainers, however, Texas is blessed with outstanding educational institutions and supportive communities that can help solve this challenge. Sen. Cruz introduced language that directs the Air Force to pursue partnerships with local and regional educational institutions to help develop and strengthen these important training needs.

• Religious Liberty Training for Senior Leaders: The hostility of the previous administration toward service members who choose to display and act upon their sincerely held religious beliefs created a need for previous NDAAs to specifically recognize the importance of protecting the religious liberties of our servicemen and women. To ensure that the Services are appropriately developing a strategy for military leadership to address and adhere to current laws, Sen. Cruz cosponsored Sen. Joni Ernst’s (R-Iowa) amendment that directs DOD to ensure appropriate religious liberty training is provided to senior military leaders, chaplains, and judge advocates.

• National Guard Headquarters Manpower: Recent NDAAs have addressed the concern that the upper ranks in the military had increased in number compared to the men and women serving on the front lines of our nations’ military campaigns. Sen. Cruz sponsored an amendment extends this consideration to the dedicated members of our National Guard by creating a cap on the number of personnel that are pulled from the states to work in the at the National Guard Bureau headquarters in D.C. This will keep more soldiers back into the respective units at the state level and help our local National Guard units perform their mission.

• Education Tuition Assistance: The Defense Activity for Non-Traditional Education Support (DANTES) is a program that helps fund college credit by examination programs, college entrance exams, and federal financial aid to help offset out of pocket costs of further education. Sen. Cruz introduced an amendment that requires service members who apply for tuition assistance receive information about the DANTES program.

• Basic Expeditionary Airman Skills Training at Joint Base San Antonio-Lackland: Sen. Cruz cosponsored an amendment by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) that encourages DOD to improve its Forward Operating Base efficiencies by utilizing capabilities such as the Basic Expeditionary Airman Skills Training (BEAST) at Joint Base San Antonio-Lackland. BEAST training is provided to about 39,000 recruits per year to improve their combat capabilities.

• Corpus Christi Land Transfer: At the request of the City of Corpus Christi, Sen. Cruz presented an amendment to enable the city to conduct a land transfer with the U.S. Navy, should it choose to do so, out of concern for potential population growth that may impact the integrity of Naval Air Station Corpus Christi.

The amendments he sponsored and supported directly benefitting the United States’ interests abroad and in space include:

• Iran Military-to-Military Cooperation: Sen. Cruz led an effort cosponsored by Sen. David Perdue (R-Georgia) to address Iran’s troubling relationship and military cooperation with other hostile nations. This amendment will expand DOD’s Annual Report on the Military Power of Iran to assess military-to-military cooperation between Iran and foreign countries including Cuba, North Korea, Pakistan, Sudan, Syria, and Venezuela. The report shall include any cooperation and collaboration on the development of nuclear, biological, chemical, and advanced conventional weapons, weapon systems, and delivery vehicles.

• Iran Military Report Additions: Sen. Cruz cosponsored Sen. Perdue’s amendment that expands the DOD’s Annual Report on the Military Power of Iran to 1) assess the use of civilian transportation infrastructure, such as commercial aircraft and vessels, used to transport illicit military cargo to or from Iran; and 2) report on Iran’s illicit transfers pertaining to nuclear, ballistic missile, chemical, biological, advanced conventional weapons, and other technology.

• Venezuelan Military Cooperation: Sen. Cruz led an effort that directs the Secretary of Defense to report on military cooperation between the Government of Venezuela with Cuba, Iran, Russia, foreign terrorist organizations, and regional militant groups. The report shall include 1) cooperation on military intelligence and counterintelligence operations; 2) cooperation in illicit drug trafficking operations; 3) cooperation in cyber and information operations; 4) cooperation with transnational criminal organizations; 5) weapons and technology transfers; and 6) estimates of the types and amounts of support, including funding, lethal and non-lethal supplies, and training provided.

• Taiwan Defense Partnership: Taiwan is a lynchpin of American national security in the Asia-Pacific, yet China is seeking to isolate Taiwan from its allies and partners across the globe. Cosponsored by Sens. Inhofe, Perdue, Strange, Wicker, and Cotton, Sen. Cruz secured an amendment that strengthens America’s strategic relationship with Taiwan under the Taiwan Relations Act and Ronald Reagan’s “Six Assurances” by calling for a return to regular arms sales based solely on Taiwan’s needs, encouraging DOD to assist Taipei in fielding a strong air defense capability, and requiring DOD to review its policy against allowing Taiwanese ships to dock in U.S. Ports.

• Taiwan Joint Exercise Invitation: Sen. Cruz supported Sen. Cotton’s requirement that DOD invite Taiwan to the Air Force’s Red Flag exercise, a continuation of an effort Sen. Cruz sponsored as an amendment in the 2015 NDAA. The exercises will provide the opportunity to elevate our relationship with Taiwan, while conducting the joint training necessary to preparing Taipei for crucial air defense contingencies.

• Space Policy: The uncontested superiority the United States previously enjoyed in space is eroding, as key competitors like Russia and China field capabilities that threaten our space presence. Cosponsored by Sens. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) and Dan Sullivan (R-Alaska), Sen. Cruz secured an amendment that supports DOD’s conception of space as an operating domain and calls for the development, production, and deployment of assets in cooperation with allies and partners to secure our ability to operate freely in space for the protection of our interests.

• India Major Defense Partner: Few partnerships in the 21st century carry more strategic significance than United States partnership with India, the world’s largest democracy. Even so, Sen. Cruz believes that current bilateral cooperation and joint development need to be more closely aligned with the shared interests of maritime domain awareness and anti-submarine warfare. Sen. Cruz secured an amendment that calls on DOD to reassess its approach to partnering with India and to appoint an individual to oversee this process.

• Report on Electromagnetic (EMP) Attack Commission Findings: Sen. Cruz cosponsored Sen. Inhofe’s amendment which directs the Secretary of Defense to report on actions taken with regard to the EMP Commission’s military findings and recommendations, and provide a recommended path forward for the protection of military systems against an EMP attack.
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I think NK knows they are toast but a corned rat will do amazing things as Putin likes to point out. If he thinks he is going down, he has nothing to lose. Current thought is that could see as many as six EMP devices used against SK, Japan, Hawaii and/or mainland US. Contacts I know in SK are very worried about Chem/Bio as it would destroy the economy and if the US was out of action, they would be toast in a ground assault. However, if we cut the head off the snake, I don't think he has left much of any leadership that could take advantage of that situation.
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This is a good account, read it.

We're on our own for most things is what I take from all of this, everything else is just for show..

300 plus million people will not be a priority to "save".

Folks have been warned by many, and few have taken the time and trouble to insure their own safety.
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OK, Here is where it is at. Col. Bradley McAlpine (Obama holdover) asst. Sec. Def for Nuclear, Chem, Bio defense has slow rolled the EMP commission so that it ends on July 30th so it's report which is due in Dec. will not come out. NSC and white House have asked the House Armed Services Committee to extend the EMP taskforce thru Dec with no response. In charge of the HASC is congressman Thornberry from Tx. The Swamp is trying to keep a political hand on the EMP issue. I've worked within OSD so I know they are political animals but they do put party before nation. Not sure why Thornberry is co-operating with McAlpine unless there is something going on with the facility outside Amarillo. It costs nothing to extend the EMP taskforce. I can only take this as someone who is a Rhino working with an Obamite. How afraid are they of that report?
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OK, Here is where it is at. Col. Bradley McAlpine (Obama holdover) asst. Sec. Def for Nuclear, Chem, Bio defense has slow rolled the EMP commission so that it ends on July 30th so it's report which is due in Dec. will not come out. NSC and white House have asked the House Armed Services Committee to extend the EMP taskforce thru Dec with no response. In charge of the HASC is congressman Thornberry from Tx. The Swamp is trying to keep a political hand on the EMP issue. I've worked within OSD so I know they are political animals but they do put party before nation. Not sure why Thornberry is co-operating with McAlpine unless there is something going on with the facility outside Amarillo. It costs nothing to extend the EMP taskforce. I can only take this as someone who is a Rhino working with an Obamite. How afraid are they of that report?

How terrified would you be, if I knew you allowed half my family to be murdered and did nothing to prevent that when you were responsible for stopping it??????

Some of these people in positions of power need to be very afraid.

The prediction is 90% die off, if we lost all electrical power in this country within 12 months.

If we lost just 50% of this figure, the survivors, after they bury their dead, a large % will be looking hard for those that allowed it to happen.

I know I would be.
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Me too! This is what I find so shocking (no pun intended) about this situation. Going to meetings and listening to what is going to happen and folks turn away. It is not an impossible fix but no one seems to care. Just how many traitors is there? Why stop the commission? Claim ignorance after the fact.
Well, in looney land next week.
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Me too! This is what I find so shocking (no pun intended) about this situation. Going to meetings and listening to what is going to happen and folks turn away. It is not an impossible fix but no one seems to care. Just how many traitors is there? Why stop the commission? Claim ignorance after the fact.
Well, in looney land next week.
IF I was to put my tin hat on, I could come up with, how much would it cost to rebuild the nation, mucho $$$$ to be made there with that, how many would die, a lot of people in power would like to see a large population reduction, so long as they and theirs are still standing when its all over.

Sometimes, just because its a tin hat idea, does not mean its wrong.

Make billions/trillions rebuilding the "nation" and reduce the population all at the same time.

People are murdered for five bucks everyday.
How much would it cost, to murder 200,000,000, or allow 2 or 2.5 hundred million to die??????????

I'd not put anything past these people.
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Yep, mobile test.
Something you mentioned over on the other thread that maybe part of the answer. I was told this about a year ago on Chinese planning. I took it all in and left it at that. There is a lot of stress building in China on several fronts and this must be released if the political system is to survive. Last trip to whackoland, got briefing on how the two other players are looking at it. I can see it now playing out. I will be briefing on some solutions for the grid or at least parts of it and long term sustainability. Three sites are in planning, one chosen, Second close and the third still open. Don't think there will be support from that quarter, so may go thru other channels.
YH, you ever get up to Benson?
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Yep, mobile test.
Something you mentioned over on the other thread that maybe part of the answer. I was told this about a year ago on Chinese planning. I took it all in and left it at that. There is a lot of stress building in China on several fronts and this must be released if the political system is to survive. Last trip to whackoland, got briefing on how the two other players are looking at it. I can see it now playing out. I will be briefing on some solutions for the grid or at least parts of it and long term sustainability. Three sites are in planning, one chosen, Second close and the third still open. Don't think there will be support from that quarter, so may go thru other channels.
YH, you ever get up to Benson?
Went thru there a couple times in past week, once going to Tucson and another Mama wanted to go to St. David and we ended up going thru Benson.
About 25 miles north of the house.
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IF I was to put my tin hat on, I could come up with, how much would it cost to rebuild the nation, mucho $$$$ to be made there with that, how many would die, a lot of people in power would like to see a large population reduction, so long as they and theirs are still standing when its all over.

Sometimes, just because its a tin hat idea, does not mean its wrong.

Make billions/trillions rebuilding the "nation" and reduce the population all at the same time.

People are murdered for five bucks everyday.
How much would it cost, to murder 200,000,000, or allow 2 or 2.5 hundred million to die??????????

I'd not put anything past these people.
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Question (mainly) for C2A1 (or anyone who actually knows)....

Heard a guy on the youtubes earlier who made the statement (and I am paraphrasing/interpolating here) that the USG did a study in the 60's (maybe) and determined that it would take 250 nukes *simultaneously* detonated over/across the U.S. mainland to take down the country's power entire power grid. This due to the limited radius/cone of effect created by the relatively low altitude at which the nukes must be detonated to create an effective EMP.

I have not read *everything* there is to read on EMPs, but I have studied this quite a bit and this is the first I have ever heard of this. I tend to think this guy is mostly wrong because he is not taking into account: 1. the interconnectedness of the modern power grid and the potential for cascading failures; 2. the choke points we have created with the seven (or nine?) highly critical transformers across the country that are extremely hard to replace; 3. perhaps technical advances made with the effectiveness of nuclear weapons - and probably some other reasons I haven't thought of.

I do tend to agree that a single, randomly placed nuke might be regional in it's effect; but I also think that if some of these critical transformers were targeted, the impacts would be much more widespread. I have a hard time believing that Russia would have created an extensive game plan for using EMPs against us if it was not feasible to create widespread damage without relying on a highly coordinated attack.

So is this dude right, or wrong, in his assertion about needing 250 simultaneously detonated nukes to dump the continental U.S.? Thanks in advance.
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Question (mainly) for C2A1 (or anyone who actually knows)....

Heard a guy on the youtubes earlier who made the statement (and I am paraphrasing/interpolating here) that the USG did a study in the 60's (maybe) and determined that it would take 250 nukes *simultaneously* detonated over/across the U.S. mainland to take down the country's power entire power grid. This due to the limited radius/cone of effect created by the relatively low altitude at which the nukes must be detonated to create an effective EMP.

I have not read *everything* there is to read on EMPs, but I have studied this quite a bit and this is the first I have ever heard of this. I tend to think this guy is mostly wrong because he is not taking into account: 1. the interconnectedness of the modern power grid and the potential for cascading failures; 2. the choke points we have created with the seven (or nine?) highly critical transformers across the country that are extremely hard to replace; 3. perhaps technical advances made with the effectiveness of nuclear weapons - and probably some other reasons I haven't thought of.

I do tend to agree that a single, randomly placed nuke might be regional in it's effect; but I also think that if some of these critical transformers were targeted, the impacts would be much more widespread. I have a hard time believing that Russia would have created an extensive game plan for using EMPs against us if it was not feasible to create widespread damage without relying on a highly coordinated attack.

So is this dude right, or wrong, in his assertion about needing 250 simultaneously detonated nukes to dump the continental U.S.? Thanks in advance.


For the 1960's this sounds about right!
People turned switches/valves and pulled on things to make power stations run.
Now everything is run by computer.
Cars in the early sixties, no computer chips, now everything has a chip.
Chips and EMP do not exist in the same space.
Current thinking is based on everything being controlled and ran off computer chips.
When your plan is to use computers to stop power surges that can fry transformers, etc, and those computers are subject to be burned out by EMP's, time to change ya plans.
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Doh! 'Puters, yup. Copy that. Makes sense. Thank you sir!

ETA: Hey, on thinking of this for just a second, the computer thing really does not hold up to the guy's perspective that it is the limited radius of effect (due to the limited altitude at detonation) creating the need for the numerous simultaneous detonations. So if we assume that the effects of a detonation are limited to a relatively small radius around where the blast occurs, would it really make things worse if it fried every computer in that same area of damage since we already assume the blast will fry transformers and lines in that area? Said another way, assume that *everything* within a radius of the detonation is fried - it is still a "local" (immediate) effect - does that still impact the power grid at large? And if so, why?

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Doh! 'Puters, yup. Copy that. Makes sense. Thank you sir!

ETA: Hey, on thinking of this for just a second, the computer thing really does not hold up to the guy's perspective that it is the limited radius of effect (due to the limited altitude at detonation) creating the need for the numerous simultaneous detonations. So if we assume that the effects of a detonation are limited to a relatively small radius around where the blast occurs, would it really make things worse if it fried every computer in that same area of damage since we already assume the blast will fry transformers and lines in that area? Said another way, assume that *everything* within a radius of the detonation is fried - it is still a "local" (immediate) effect - does that still impact the power grid at large? And if so, why?
Last "map" I saw of of an air burst over Kansas, at 300 miles, blew out near everything across whole country.
I'm again guessing, but with the power grids being connected, think they are only four for whole country, blow one, should have a cascading effect upon the others.
We really have "just enough" power now for a normal day, increase the loads and bad shit happens now, add in an EMP weapon, system should simply fail, fall apart.
As large as the country is and as dependent upon electrical power for "everything", I mean most people in this country don't even own a five gallon plastic bucket to haul water in, if they could find a river, and most could not carry a five gallon bucket of water fifty feet, and if they did locate a river, and carry the bucket, most could not or even know to clean it before use.
We loose power, we loose computers, we're screwed and no help is coming.
If I wanted to "design" a population to simply fall down and die on command, ours is what it would like.
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These are the weak links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCADA
Plus the line voltages that fry the transformers on the grid. One device at the correct altitude will case a cascading effect. That is why both NK and Iran have orbited satellites at the correct altitude and positions. In the last MDA tests, electrical lines in homes were vulnerable. 30% of homes and offices would have fires.
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Plus the line voltages that fry the transformers on the grid. One device at the correct altitude will case a cascading effect. That is why both NK and Iran have orbited satellites at the correct altitude and positions. In the last MDA tests, electrical lines in homes were vulnerable. 30% of homes and offices would have fires.

Ugh!
Didn't even think about home fires.
30% go off, at one time, no one is coming to put it out.
30% homeless, will never locate a new home, ever!
Maybe 90% die off inside 12 months is to rosy a picture, that 30% homeless in one moment, this would become a real nightmare.
Might be time to pull the switch on my shop building when not being used, my back up "home" just in case, something happens to the house.
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I know someone was working on a device that you plugged into the wall outlets to bleed off the energy. You can also do it at the junction box. I have to be with DHS next week and I'll ask the status of the effort. The energy comes in off the primary power lines before the transformers fail. The field builds when ever the electrical line makes a turn in the house and that is where it tries to find ground.
Yep, when this came out, folks were shocked and the reports quietly filed away. We did several simulations for weather conditions and you could get urban firestorms going. There would be no automatic sprinklers in the big buildings so they burn and collaspe. The toxic plumes were deadly a hundred miles downwind.
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I know someone was working on a device that you plugged into the wall outlets to bleed off the energy. You can also do it at the junction box. I have to be with DHS next week and I'll ask the status of the effort. The energy comes in off the primary power lines before the transformers fail. The field builds when ever the electrical line makes a turn in the house and that is where it tries to find ground.
Yep, when this came out, folks were shocked and the reports quietly filed away. We did several simulations for weather conditions and you could get urban firestorms going. There would be no automatic sprinklers in the big buildings so they burn and collaspe. The toxic plumes were deadly a hundred miles downwind.
I never thought a 90% die off inside 12 months could get worst than that, but this makes it far worst, as in, cuts down on the time for last minute preps for the "new" future.
Being in the dark is one thing, prepared, one can expect a decent chance of survival, at least for a while, but instant fires upon onset of zero power, damn, this could and I'm sure, would also start wildfires.
That bug out vs bug in thingy just got real.
Might have to run from fires is not something I really wanted to deal with on day one.
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Does it make a difference if you have above ground service or below ground?
All power in most new subdivisions here in Florida are below ground.i would think power would be able to go to ground before it gets to house if lines are buried,or is that just wishful thinking.also what about power plants? We have a coal fired plant maybe 50 miles away .will their circuits overload and create an explosion or fire ?
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Does it make a difference if you have above ground service or below ground?
All power in most new subdivisions here in Florida are below ground.i would think power would be able to go to ground before it gets to house if lines are buried,or is that just wishful thinking.also what about power plants? We have a coal fired plant maybe 50 miles away .will their circuits overload and create an explosion or fire ?
The stuff of nightmares.
And I'm not aware of any of the recommendations being put into place.
This will answer all of your questions, above should be around page 28 or 29.

http://www.empcommission.org/docs/A2...ission-7MB.pdf
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