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Old December 21, 2002, 23:11   #101
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Bought one today!!!!
8x57 Mau. Egyptian contract. CAI marked barrel
Serial Number: 237xx
bolt - 116xx
cover not matching
Receiver ring crest (crown or eagle)? crown
Have scope cut on left receiver rail? no
Have a middle sling swivel located about 2" in front of the magazine? no
Have a reinforcing crossbolt in the stock? no, brass butt looks like SMLE, been dragged for miles.

Optional question: Is the bolt machined to take a firing pin safety stop? yes
If so, does the bolt serial number match the receiver serial number? no
Hope this helps.
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Old December 22, 2002, 13:01   #102
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44echo Every rifle helps so thanks for the report. I'm coming up on 625 rifles in the data base and my goal is at least 1000 so I'll take all the rifles I can get.

You may have already read the posts on this, but you want to strip your bolt and make sure that you have a 2-piece firing pin.

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Old December 22, 2002, 13:37   #103
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Well glad I could help.
Got another 8x57 Egyptian here in front of me.
#285xx scope cut, crest was ground off and grind area was not refinished. No swivel, plain stock with many repairs. CAI marked.
Bolt not avaiable.

Also have a replacement barrel I got awhile ago.
Has sight base/bayo lug/gastube.
Chamber marked with 89, ELG in a crown topped ring, E with a star over it. No indication of chambering, was sold to me as a 8x57.

Lastly a flash hider of M16A1 style, 22mm od, 53 mm long. Has spring at base that contacts barrel. Sold to me as for FN.

Keep up the good work!
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Old December 22, 2002, 19:22   #104
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44echo - thanks again for the report.

On your new spare barrel - it is most probably an 8x57. On the "68" marking . . . is one end of the "8" smaller than the other end ?

I thought this was a "68" marking as well until I looked real close at my spare barrel and noticed the "8" stamping. I now I believe that it's an "89" stamp when I put the small end of the "8" up ! Check out the pic on this thread: http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...ht=fn49+barrel

On your flash hider, FN never offered anything like that for FN-49s. It sounds like the part that Numrich/Gun Parts sells. The only FN-provided muzzle devices for the FN-49 were a blank firing adapter, and the muzzle brake that was fitted to the Venezuelan contract rifles and to the Egyptian snipers.

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Old December 22, 2002, 20:22   #105
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Howdy Goose
Bought an Egyptian contract 8mm FN-49 a couple of weeks ago, Here's the Data.

Serial #2365x
Crown crest
No scope cut
No middle swivel
No reinforcing Bolt
No cuts in Bolt for the fireing pin safety

Over all it's in good condition , it's been rebarreled with a new gas system .

Only discrepancy that I can see is that the new barrel has thread on muzzle device, about 21/2 inches long .
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Old December 22, 2002, 21:10   #106
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BlueNavion - Outstanding - thanks to you as well for reporting your data.

I have a feeling that your muzzle device is also the GunParts/Numrich part.

As I mentioned to 44echo, make sure you have a 2-piece firing pin in your rifle to reduce the likelihood of slamfires occasionally caused by breakage of the long 1-piece pin.

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Old December 22, 2002, 23:33   #107
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You were right, 89.
Gun Parts or Sarco would have been where I got the barrel and muzzle device. Too long to remember now.
PS. muzzle device looks just like HK item.

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Old December 24, 2002, 16:13   #108
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Goose,
I'm new here and just found your FN49 threads, surveys.

Here's what I have:
Egypt, CAI parts gun, SN 3465X matching numbers (Egyptian) on reciever and barrel. Top cover # (using rear site to translate)20690, bolt carrier #27573, bolt #12005 cut for SS, not installed, two piece FP, by the way you can also shim the spring if it fails the inerta test, don't file. Reciever has crown crest, no third swivel, no lock screw on rear TG, cut for scope. Stock has been repaired with a plug on both sides above the safe lever, has brass BP w/trap and hole for brass disk but no disk. Breach of barrel is marked 7,9 opposite the extractor cut (cannot make out other markings). Underside of barrel breach has a large L and mabe an O in a box. Gas piston guide has an S.

Well this was fun, now I have to put this thing together.
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Old December 24, 2002, 22:08   #109
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elbo - thanks for the detailed report! Just FYI, your stock is probably not original to the rifle as all of the rifles in this serial number range have the 3rd/middle sling swivel mounted just in front of the magazine so Century swapped the stock on you as well as the other parts.

Good point on shimming the spring . . . but make sure that the shim doesn't create any drag in the firing pin channel, eh!

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Old December 26, 2002, 19:16   #110
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At least my barrel and receiver got to stay together, and mabe a screw... mabe two.
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Old December 28, 2002, 14:43   #111
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Got an update on rifle 285xx, bolt is uncut and hand numbered to rifle.
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Old December 28, 2002, 19:01   #112
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44 Echo - Thanks

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Old January 09, 2003, 22:24   #113
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Anybody out there get an FN-49 for Christmas and would like to give the 'ole Goose a New Year's present and contribute to the survey?



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Old January 11, 2003, 01:33   #114
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Hey Goose,
Have you seen this website yet.
It has an article by a John A. Landry with some pictures of a replica flash hider.

http://www.fn-collectors.net/modules...ticles&secid=1
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Old January 11, 2003, 19:39   #115
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G_FAL - I have had that FN web site bookmarked for quite a while but for the FN-49, all they had was a link over to the original Landry site at: http://walnut.tmcom.com/%7Ejlandry/firearms/FN49.html This old site is still active and has "Version 3.53", dated 10-31-99, of Landry's work posted.

The FN web site how has a "Version 3.54", dated 12-24-02 posted. I just scanned the text and didn't see anything new but there are some new/better pics. There are some errors in this text, but nothing major and I frequently send posters to the Landry site for the basics . ..

The muzzle device shown on this new page is not a replica . . . it's the original FN-produced device as fitted to the Venezuelan contract rifles and to the Egyptian snipers.

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Old January 11, 2003, 21:31   #116
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The home page to the website also has a note stating that John Landry has moved on to other things in life (or something to that effect ) and no longer has any interest in maintaining/updating his works on the FN49.

I also found out today that someone I know may be inheriting an FN49 which belonged to his father-in-law. He claims to have shot a 5-shot dime-sized group the first time he shot it many years ago. It is supposed to be a South American model in 30-06.
If/when I get a chance to look at it, I will try to get some information for you.
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Old January 11, 2003, 21:46   #117
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G_FAL - Thank's for the comeback.

Well, my hat is off to Landry for filling a "web void" for all these years. Best wishes to him in his future interests.

BTW, I would appreciate that data on the 30-06. If you get a chance, send me some data on this one. These rifles shoot well and I would not dispute a dime . . . certainly at 50 yards and they'll occasionally do it at 100.

Also BTW, the Goose is always interested in South American -49s in the event your friend tires of the rifle!

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Old January 20, 2003, 15:28   #118
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Mine is Egyptian contract 8mm
serial # D1100x
Eagle on the receiver
It has the scope cut
It does not have the middle swivel, I'm not possitive but it might be a .30-06 stock
It has the reinforcement cross bolt
I believe I have a .30-06 bolt with the FPSS and its installed, the numbers do not match the receiver
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Old January 20, 2003, 16:30   #119
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gunguy98 - Thanks for the report. You have a typical "Eagle" and you most probably DO have a 30-06 stock.

All of the Eagles were built by Century from new, never issued, spare receivers. They frequently have the 30-06 parts that you mention (stock and bolt) but also may have 30-06 bolt carriers and even 30-06 receiver covers. My Eagle is in a Centry repro stock, has mostly Egyptian parts, but does have a 30-06 bolt and a muzzle cap that was installed on the 30-06 and 7.65 rifles.

If you ever remove the action from the stock, you will probably see that you have a new, replacement barrel with an "89" number stamped over the chamber.

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Old February 11, 2003, 21:05   #120
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Any new board members have an FN-49 and would like to play?



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Old February 24, 2003, 18:25   #121
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I'll play

Egyptian rifle serial 17104

all farsi numbers match
no scope mount cuts
crown on receiver
no middle sling
no crossbolt

I am unsure if the bolt is machined for the firing pin stop, but I do have a 2 piece pin.

I hope this helps

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Old February 24, 2003, 20:23   #122
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James - Thanks for the contribution - every bit of data helps. You have what sounds like a typical mid-range Egyptian.

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Old March 03, 2003, 03:14   #123
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FN 49 #3

Picked up another 8mm sr#33622 details here

CAI import
Crown crest
plain muzzle cap
scope cut yes
third swivel yes
no cuts in bolt for firing pin safty
original stock with sr# and disc

sr# s match except bolt carrier last # is 9 all others 2 (exchanged at the armory ?)and havent looked at barrel yet

bore looks bright
interior and exterior metel looks new
stock has many shallow dings and dents

My other 8mm will be on market place soon will only keep one on each ..
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Old March 03, 2003, 09:34   #124
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Mangi One - You have what I call a "3-swivel" Egyptian. All of these fall within a 2,000 serial number range. While most of the rifles in this 2,000 range were NOT fully rigged snipers . . . all of the fully rigged, 2nd variant snipers DO fall within this range.

Unlike the Lux and Belgian snipers that were built as such by FN, the Egyptian snipers were most likely built in Egypt. It's quite possible that Egypt had the 3rd sling swivel fitted to this block of 2000 rifles, then test fired for accuracy, selected the better rifles for sniper use, then fitted the cheekpiece, brake, and scope set-up.

So, out of 37000 Egyptian, you have a 1 of 2000 (or so) !

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Old March 03, 2003, 14:31   #125
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Hey Goose what other info have you learned from all this.
Kinda curious as to the results of the survey.
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Old March 03, 2003, 14:48   #126
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John

I now have data on about 670 rifles with a goal of achieving 1000 and beyond. The additional rifles have confirmed nearly all of the conclusions of my earlier survey summary, have identified a number of FN-49 variants within the contracts, pinned down serial number ranges of the scope features, and have pinned down a bit closer production quantities within the 30-06 contracts.

Information related to variation in features and design changes have helped establish hypothesis regarding the production order of the various contracts.

The below post regarding the Egyptian 3-swivel guns is the type of data that I can now share. I also have data on nearly 40 fully-rigged snipers and can now reasonably authenticate snipers from the Lux and Egyptian contracts.

So, with a year invested, and perhaps somewhere around 750 hours total time, I know a bit more about FN-49s than I did last year!

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Old March 04, 2003, 01:43   #127
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where can one score the wrench used to install the thread protector/muzzle brake?
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jimmyjoebob - Northridge for sure, maybe Gunparts. Read all of Northridge's parts listings as they used to have the wrench listed twice - one at a lower price than the other (?). Go to:

http://www.northridgeinc.com/I_fnfal_fn49_parts.htm
http://www.e-gunparts.com/products.a...odel=1410z1949

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Old March 04, 2003, 09:35   #129
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THANKS FOR ALL THE INFORMATION. HERE IS MY INFO
Egytian 8mm
Serial D109XX
creast on receiver
YES scope cut
repro stock w/plastic buttpad
non-matching
type III bolt with firing pin stop groove
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black - Thanks for taking the time to submit your data. However, can you give me one more digit of your serial number. I have so many rifles that I really need either the whole number or no more than one "X" to be able to keep the data straight.

The crest on your rifle is the "Eagle of Saladin." All of the "Eagles" were built by Century from new, never issued spare receivers that they bought as part of their purchase of the remaining Egyptian rifles and spares. These rifles usually have a new barrel installed with an "89" number stamped over the chamber end of the barrel. Your bolt is most likely a 30-06 bolt from the Belgian contract. The rifle is non-matching as Century just built these up with parts they had on-hand.

So far, the serial number range of the Eagles is only around 1,500 rifles so, even though they weren't built by FN, they are a relatively rare variant with a unique receiver marking.

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Old March 04, 2003, 10:52   #131
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venezuelan
sn# 257x
no cartouche on stock
no lock screw behind trigger guard
when i aquired it it had a one piece handguard (i do shoot my rifles )
beautiful rifle. like new. i refinished the stock with hand rubbed linseed oil.
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pbrstreetgangl1a1 - Thanks for the report. Handguard alteration to facilite gas adjustment is a commonly found variation in the "Early" variant Vennies that originally all had 1-piece handguards. FN realized this themselves and phased in the 2-piece handguards as one of the first design changes (of many) in the overall FN-49 production run.

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Old March 04, 2003, 12:06   #133
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Quote:
Originally posted by jimmyjoebob
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where can one score the wrench used to install the thread protector/muzzle brake?
Something that works and is at hand. FAL gas nut wrench fits almost perfectly. I use the one from Tapco.
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Old March 13, 2003, 11:16   #134
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I'm getting closer to breaking the 700 rifle barrier . . . any more FN-49 owners out there want to contribute?



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Old March 21, 2003, 12:33   #135
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I finally purchased my first 49 yesterday. Here are the specs:

Egyptian w/ crown; Entire rifle finished in black enamel (like Mk4 SMLES)

SNs do not match - 2802X on receiver, bolt, & barrel; 26472 on receiver cover; 10973 on bolt carrier

Scope cut present (I think?)

No middle sling swivel or crossbolt in stock

Bolt not cut for firing pin block; One-piece fp



I have some questions as well:

1. Where are the importer marks located? I assume mine is a CAI import.
2. Are there any other SNs on the rifle? On the stock; trigger group?
3. The stock has the brass buttplate and cleaning kit/oiler, but is missing the stock disk. Where can I find one?
4. What is an expedient way to clean up the stock? It is in pretty good shape, yet is definately dirty from use.

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IO_Joe - Thanks for the good report. Many of the Egyptian contract rifles are mismatched due to rebuilding activity either in Egypt or by Century here in the U.S. but the good news is that you have a matching bolt so your headspace is PROBABLY OK but it never hurts to check.

On the scope cut, your rifle is right on the borderline where it SHOULD have the cut. Do me a favor and verify this. Besides comparing your rifle to Pic#1 at the beginning of this survey, the easiest way to tell is to check out where the "Fabrique Nationale . . . Herstal . . ." markings are on your rifle. If these markings are on the right - you most probably have the scope cut. If the markings are on the side of the left receiver rail - you definitely do NOT have the scope cut.

You may have already read the posts related to this but it's STRONGLY recommended that you fit a 2-pc firing pin set-up in your rifle before you shoot it. Availability varies but check out all 3 of the primary FN-49 parts vendors to order your firing pin sections (front & rear):
http://sarcoinc.com/fn49.html
http://www.northridgeinc.com/I_fnfal_fn49_parts.htm
http://www.e-gunparts.com/products.a...odel=1410z1949

On your questions:

The import marks are usually, but not always, on the bottom of the barrel in front of the bayonet lug. Some importers stamped the receiver. The importer for the Argentine contract rifles was really slick and used REALLY tiny markings on the receiver in the area covered by the sliding dust cover (when the cover is opened). Most of the Egyptians were imported by Century (and some by Navy Arms) and Century applied their marks to the bottom of the barrel.

On serial numbers, you named the 5 parts that were ALWAYS serial numbered when the rifle left FN. Some rifles (mostly in the 3x,xxx range) will also have the serial number on the stock - on the right side just below the rear of the receiver. Many rifles will also have the serial number on the underside of the front handguard.

There was a recent "find" of brass stock discs at Hunter's Lodge (no endorsement for Hunter's Lodge expressed or implied!) but while they are dimensionally compatible with the FN-49 stock inletting, the Arabic script on these discs does NOT match the original FN-49 unit discs - one post over on Gunboards theorized that these Hunter's Lodge discs were from Bren guns. If interested, go to:
http://www.gunboards.com/forums/Ultr...653&SID=408180
http://www.gunboards.com/forums/Ultr...777&SID=408180

On stock cleaning - you might want to post over on Parallax - lot's of experts over there on working with the "wood" side of the rifle. Go to: http://pub109.ezboard.com/fparallaxs...rmsforumsfrm34

HTH

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Goose:

Thanks for the info.

The FN markings are on the right side of the receiver and the groove does look like that in picture 1.

Still haven't found an importer mark.
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Old March 25, 2003, 21:16   #138
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Got a couple of rifles for you, Unfortunately I have no other details then what I have listed as these are from an auction catalogue.

Egyptian
has crest (don't know which version)
s/n 16020

Venezuelan
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s/n 417
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Old March 25, 2003, 21:30   #139
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Kevin - Thanks very much for contributing this data. I recall that you were one of my first contributors more than a year ago when I started the survey. I'll thank you again for taking the time to research all of those years of auction data to extract the FN-49 info.

I now have anywhere from a lot of data . . . to a bit of data . . . on 8 of the 9 FN-49 contracts (Brazil is still a mystery with no data). I'm just coming up on 690 rifles in the data base and would like to crack the 700 barrier so I can start work on the next goal of 800.

The Egyptian that you reported would have a Crown crest. The Venezuelan is an "early" variant (below around SN4000) and actually has a different stock and trigger guard assembly than the "late" variant.

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Hmmmm - I've seen some posts about Filers scooping up FN-49s at gunshows but no one has reported in to the survey recently!

Come on . . . don't be shy !

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Old April 16, 2003, 03:53   #141
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Picked up at recent Tulsa show:

Venezualan Contract.

Paint over park, finish in excess of 95%, barrel under stock looks NEW.

Serial on receiver and barrel, 253. Top cover 260. Bolt and carrier 251.

No import marks, muzzle brake intact.

Topcover latch detented.

Firing pin stop present on bolt, one piece pin with spring, knurled bolt.

Grooved for scope mount.

2 piece upper handguards, cut from same wood, grain patterns match.

No markings of any kind on stock, shiney finish leads me to believe MAY have been arsenal refinished, long ago, not recent.

Corrugated buttplate, but underneath, two holes drilled in stock a'la Garand, like for cleaning kit. Evidence indicates buttplate is either original or was put on back when it was still in inventory. Markings underneath plate match pattern of plate.

Bore looks perfect. All in all appears to be untampered with since it left military service. Since the mismatched parts are so close to the receiver/barrel number, this probably occurred very early in it's military life. It looks to have seen little if any usage. Most flaws in finish look to be storage dings, only thing with significant finish wear is the buttplate.

Is it a keeper?

Dunno, there were fewer of the Venezualans, than most of the others, but since I'd rather play with them than collect them, I'd be inclined to consider a trade for an equal condition 30-06 variation, due to ammo availability and price. But then I may find a source of 7mm ammo...

Who knows, anyhow, I won't sell it, as I've been looking for a nice shooter 49 for a while, and the Egyptians, just don't do it for me..

How's this Goose...???
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Old April 16, 2003, 07:24   #142
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xcpd69 - WOW . . . this has to be about the most detailed report that I've ever received - THANKS ! I'll work down your observations in order:
  • You have what sounds like a correct "Early" variant (under SerNo 4000) Vennie.
  • Sounds like original metal finish
  • I continually receive reports of Vennies with receiver covers or bolt carriers off by just a few numbers. Don't believe they came from FN that way so that means sloppy assembly practices in the Venezuelan armory.
  • Won't be import marks on most Vennies they were imported prior to GCA-68.
  • If you keep, and shoot, the rifle, you should get a 2-piece firing pin to reduce the likelihood of slamfires that can be caused in the event of breakage of the long 1-piece pin. Remember to specifically ask the vendor for a rear pin section that is slotted for the firing pin safety stop - these slotted rear sections are now getting hard to find.
  • All Vennies have the scope cut.
  • EXCELLENT observation about the wood grain - the "Early" Vennies originally had a 1-piece handguard that was often sawed in half to facilitate gas adjustment.
  • Shouldn't be any markings on the stock on the "Early" Vennies - the "Late" Vennies (above SerNo 4000) did have a stock cartouche. The original stock finish was linseed oil so it shouldn't be too shiney . . . although this finish can get shiney if someone keeps handrubbing in more coats of oil.
  • You have the correct buttplate. The stocks were drilled with the two holes as lightening holes in this case.
Sounds like a keeper to me! On the ammo, just be aware that most 7x57 ammo (commercial or milsurp) will usually be loaded with a powder too slow for optimal operation in gas guns. Every rifle is different so you won't know until you try the particular ammo in your gun. The only milsurp 7x57 that is out there right now is being sold by SAMCO. If you handload, you should consider using hard primers like the CCI #34.

Post any more questions that you may have and thanks again for the report . . . you just put me up to 702 rifles in the data base!

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Old April 17, 2003, 20:34   #143
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Egyptian CAI mixmaster

Serial Number: 14120
Crown
No scope cut
No middle sling swivel
No crossbolt
Bolt and carrier match (Arabic numbered only), but do not match receiver. Bolt machined for safety stop, but not present.
2-piece FP

Finish is grey spray paint over the old black stoving. Stock has the brass disc, no visible markings, but is in rough shape.

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Old April 17, 2003, 20:42   #144
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Cogs - Good report. Thanks for taking the time to submit your data. Good deal on the 2-pc firing pin.

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Old April 19, 2003, 07:01   #145
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FN49 Survey

This goes in the "for what its worth" category.
My 1st assa*lt rifle was an FN49 I bought when I was 17 years old for $125 in 1973. It was serial #1801 and AL marked. It had no scope mount dovetail and the one piece firing pin. No import markings and had the black painted finish with a threaded muzzle with a muzzle protector.
I bought an new 30-06 barrel from Sherwood Ditributors (now Northridge) for $30 but I could never figure out how to get the old barrel off.
I was shooting commercial ammo back then since surplus ammo was hard to find prior to 1984 and the hot Federal loads would rip the rims off during extraction. I never seemed to get the gas setting set right

I sold it a few year later.
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Old April 19, 2003, 18:32   #146
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falcom - "For what it's worth" is just fine. Good report!

You had a typical "Early" variant Luxembourg contract rifle that sounds like it was in correct condition. All of these were imported prior to GCA '68 and import marks didn't start until importation of milsurp rifles was re-allowed in 1984 so that's why no import marks on your rifle.

In regards to the one-piece firing pin in that rifle, We now know that it's a good idea to change out the one-firing pins with the later two-piece pins.

BTW, the reason why you could never get the gas right when shooting commercial ammo is that most commericial 30-06 ammo is probably loaded with a powder that is too slow for optimal use in gas guns. With a slow powder, you get a higher than normal gas port pressure and higher residual chamber pressure when the bolt is trying to unlock - so, you get the torn rims. With many rifles, it doesn't matter how you adjust the gas regulator . . . you've got to either handload or find some good 'ole GI ball.

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Old April 20, 2003, 13:13   #147
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FN49,8X57 WITH CREST.Tiger Wood.It is with Bruce Dow recieving a New Barrel.When I get it back,I hope within 2 weeks,I'll fill in the rest..It is a Fabrical National,Belgium...Will be Much more specific on it's return.
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Old April 20, 2003, 14:38   #148
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I just bought a FN49 Egyptian. It is super condition and has a crown crest on the receiver. Everything matches.

Serial number 9227. No stock bolt and no middle sling swivel.

The gun does not appear to have been fired?

Normal muzzlebrake and no scope cut.

Super nice gun. Can't wait to screw it up!
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Old April 20, 2003, 15:03   #149
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Kulaman308 - Thanks - check back in when you get the rifle.

Bill - Good deal. Remember to check out the firing pin to make sure you have a 2-piece. In regards to being unfired, the only Egyptians that appeared to be unissued/unfired were the rifles up in the 30,000 range. I haven't heard of any of the lower serial number rifles in that good of shape.

The original metal finish is black enamel paint and that the original stock was oil-finished European walnut with a brass buttplate and brass unit disc in the right side of the buttstock. Does your rifle fit this description? Or, is your rifle parkerized and/or have a stock that looks like something other than walnut and may have a black plastic buttplate?

Thanks guys,

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Old April 20, 2003, 15:17   #150
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Brass plate and all. Does not appear to have been fired that I can tell. No unit disk.

The screws on the stock are perfect.

The follower is not even scarred.

Perfect black enamel finish. Does not appear to be a redo at all.

It is almost scary looking at the places where wear might be expected to be. Very little or none.

Nice looking even if it is not original. As a matter of fact I do not believe there could be any that looked better and I have looked at bunches of Egyptian FNs.
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