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Old November 08, 2004, 16:27   #401
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Goose,
I recieved the Eagle Fn49 today. WOW! I am very pleased!

Details:

Serial number: D1077X
Eagle crest
YEs, it does have a scope cut
No middle sling swivel (most likely repro. stock...just too nice)
No inforcement crossobolt (ditto)
The bolt is machined to accept a firing pin stop

Other details:

No serial numbers anywhere...except for the Egyptian recevier cover. Serial # is 10494 in Arabic (I believe).
The rear screw which attaches triiger assembly to upper DOES NOT have a locking screw.
The bolt has a knurled cocking handle.
Arabic gas plug
Magazine lacks any markings...and a little dinged up. Follower stamped 7.9.
Barrel is perfect. Century marked. Both it, and the new barrel which accompanied the kit (not CIA marked) have the FN crest, an "X" with a star above it, and numbered either "68" or "89."
The rifle came with a flash suppressor already mounted...not sure if it is soldiered..but she is defintely tight!
Plastic buttplate
The stock and handguards appear to be reproduction. VERY nice quaity though...i am impressed!

The rifle had a lot of cosmoline in inside of it. The gas plug and piston needed a little help to loosen apart...lot of dried gunk inside.

The rifle came with a B-Square mount, and the extra brand new 8mm FN49 barrel. I need to find a rear sight and spring...but the receiver cover is not damaged in any way, and I understand that Numrch has the parts that I need....hopefullly they have a metal buttplate!
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Old November 08, 2004, 17:52   #402
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Thanks for taking the time to submit your data. Sounds like a typical "Eagle." About half had the Century beech wood repro stock and handguards (as yours does), the other half are fitted with Belgian contract 30-06 stocks.

On serial numbers, the replacement barrel wouldn't be serialized, the bolt may be a new, spare as well. The bolt carrier MAY be serialized - did you look at the rear of the carrier, in the area just below the hole for the return (recoil) springs?

Also, did you strip the bolt to see if you have a 1-pc or 2-pc firing pin?

On the rear sight, Springfield Sporters lists an Egyptian rear sight leaf (graduated in Arabic numerals) - SS is the only outfit that I know of that lists these. The Numrich leaf is probably a 30-06 leaf - it will work but the Egyptian one would be more authentic ....

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Old November 08, 2004, 19:25   #403
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Goose,

The bolt and carrier are not serialized. Neither barrel is serialized.

I have not checked out the firing pin yet.

As for a replacement buttplate....which type should I look for?
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Old November 08, 2004, 19:51   #404
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Sorry, I forgot about your buttplate question.

People with the Century stocks and plastic buttplates have been scrounging the original Egyptian contract brass buttplates for at least 10 years. As a result, there is no "supply" of these anyplace. I see them show up about twice a year on eBay. You could also post WTB ads .... but be advised that many people are looking for these.

In any event, since the Eagles were not assembled by FN, the "correct" buttplate for your rifle is actually the plastic one !

Good luck !

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Old November 13, 2004, 22:24   #405
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Here is the info on my FN49:
S/N 584X
Crown Stamp
No Scope cut
No middle sling swivel
No cross bolt.

There is a metal sleeve around the muzzle of mine. What is the secret to removing that? Is it soldered on?

Oh yes, I forgot to say, this is an Egyption 8mm that was imported by Century according to the stamp. Would this have been built by FN or assembled by Century from parts?
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Old November 13, 2004, 22:41   #406
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georgeg - Thanks for the data. All of the Crown-crested rifles were assembled by FN in Belgium.

The muzzle caps were not welded on the Egyptian contract rifles ... probably just tight after more than 50 years. There's usually no reason to remove them, but if it is necessary, they are designed to be engaged by the gas regulatory key (spanner wrench), available from Northridge.

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Old November 13, 2004, 23:00   #407
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Just checked Northridge's website. They list two gas regulator wrenches for the FN-49. Same price, but different stock numbers. The stock numbers are FN49-76 and SN-618. $14.95 for either. No pictures. Kind of confusing.
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Old November 14, 2004, 11:10   #408
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I've ordered the wrench from Northridge before - they had two stock numbers back then too ...... but I can't remember which number I ordered !

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Old November 16, 2004, 12:18   #409
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Goose,

I ordered the rear sight assembly and spring from Numrich. The parts arrived today...absolutly perfect condition....and Egyptian! They appear as new with a little storage soot. The rear sight aperature/base/screws is stoved over park. Remainder of sight assembly is parked only...with the exception of painted numbers.

No buttplate as you suggested. Will keep eyes peeled. If I land one, the plastic buttplate will be retained for collector value....but it just seems so out of place on such a fine firearm...even the reproduction wood stock is VERY nice.

Thank you for the help!
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Old November 16, 2004, 18:30   #410
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Wow - I'm surprised that you got an Egyptian rear sight leaf. I wonder if it was luck of the draw or whether that is what they have left? I had thought they only had Belgian contract 30-06 leaves in stock.

On the buttplate, be aware that some of the Century repro stocks were inletted to take the brass buttplate (it's a drop-in) ... and some were not. On the stocks that were not, before the brass plate will fit, you must inlet the stock to clear the trap door and hinge protuberances on the back of the brass plate.

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Old November 16, 2004, 21:01   #411
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Buttplate area...it is cut for the cleaning kit, but doesn't appear to have been inletted for trapdoor hinge?
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Old November 16, 2004, 21:11   #412
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Here is a pic of the rear sight that I received from Numric. I'm fairly confident that it is Egyptian?
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Old November 16, 2004, 21:36   #413
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You scored on both counts - you have the stock that IS inlet for the FN brass plate ... and you have a genuine Egyptian contract sight leaf !

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Old November 16, 2004, 21:56   #414
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Cool...thanx again for your help!

Here is a pic of complete rifle...i am VERY pleased with it. Proof that Century CAN d something right is they keep a tab on their angry beavers. Sorry about Stinker...seems that he digs FN49s as well.
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Old November 16, 2004, 22:50   #415
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My Century Egyptian has the painted numbers on the rear sight as well. I thought it had to have been done by a previous, and fairly talented, owner.
So that was original ? The crown on the receiver has some gold looking paint remaining in it. Was that original also ?
Your survey may be over Goose52, but this thread may live on a bit longer.
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Old November 16, 2004, 23:05   #416
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Mojo,

Is that one of Id's muzzle brakes? I got one, have not had the chance to shoot it, but BOY the maching is top notch.


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Old November 16, 2004, 23:33   #417
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Vince,
I'm not familiar with the Id" muzzle device. The muzzle device came with the rifle along with B-square scope mount.

Here is a close up of the muzzle device.
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Old November 16, 2004, 23:35   #418
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Very cool. Is it an HK?

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Old November 17, 2004, 00:01   #419
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Vince, I have no idea. It was installed on the FN49...right hand thread. I'm not positive, but I believe that Century installed these muzzle devices on "Eagle" Egyptian builds.
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Old November 17, 2004, 00:28   #420
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The original Egyptian contract rear sight leaves did have fill paint in the numerals. As mentioned above, the main portion of the leaf was parked and the upper surface of the leaf was NOT polished as it was on all the other contracts. The fill paint and no polish is unique to the Egyptian contract.

The flash suppressor shown is an aftermarket part sold by Numrich/GunParts.

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Old November 18, 2004, 13:02   #421
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That is a Sarco or Numerich fn-49 muzzle brake. I purchased two for the fn-49 but then got three of the recently made reproductions. I did not care for them but hey they work.
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Old November 21, 2004, 13:32   #422
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OK - last call ! This survey will be discontinued in about two weeks. Anyone out there with an FN-49 that hasn't checked in yet !

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Old November 21, 2004, 20:24   #423
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Saw one at a show in CR today.

Argentine Contract (7.62x51 chambering w/detachable box magazine):

Serial number :3774
Have scope cut on the left receiver rail? :no
Have an "ARA" cartouche on the buttstock? On left side or right side?
:didn't notice, sorry.
Action was cable tied so bolt info unavaible, all numbers matched that I could see. Butplate was ribbed stamped steel with door.

Wanted $700 for it.
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Old November 21, 2004, 20:30   #424
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44Echo - Thanks for taking the time to scoop up the serial number!



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Old November 22, 2004, 23:16   #425
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Close date?
I gotta a nice AL Sniper cut coming in...
It hasn't shipped and my state has a 10 day wait. Could be tight.
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Old November 23, 2004, 01:22   #426
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Well, if the rifle has the scope-mounting dovetail, the serial number is 5001 or higher !

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Old November 27, 2004, 02:34   #427
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just found this thread..

I just found this thread- and just bought my FN49 a few weeks ago- might as well put in my info too

Egyptian
S/N: 244XX
Crown crest on receiver
no scope cut
no middle swivel
no reinforcing stock crossbolt

The serial numbers of the parts do no appear to match (different arabic markings- numerals, I suppose). Th ebolt looks liek it's cut for the FP stop, though no stop is installed. It came with the 2-pc firing pin.

The nose cap doesn't appear to be welded in place as far as I can tell.

The windage adjustment on the rear sight only has a screw on the right side- it looks like it might be missing the left side screw (if there was one). Anyone know where to get a replacement?

I cleaned it up, but haven't fired it yet. The stock seemed to be original- it was very banged up, and dirty (one side was blacker than the other like it sat in something). During cleaning, there was a lot of what looked like sand trapped in oil/grease in the rifle. The bore is ever so slightly rough.
It also has the zinc washer in place of the unit disc.

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Old November 27, 2004, 13:31   #428
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Numrich/GunParts lists rear sight assemblies. Springfield Sporters, Nortridge and Numrich did not list the screws seperately that I could find.
Seems they might be scarce ?
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saki302 - Thanks for taking the time to submit your data. However, for the data to be usable, I need either the exact serial number or no more than one "X" at the end of the number.

Good deal on having the two-piece firing pin.

As was mentioned, there are no current sources for the windage screws. Other people have been looking as well. The only option at present is to buy a complete rear leaf (just to get a 50 cent screw ...).

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Old December 03, 2004, 10:49   #430
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FWIW, I've received an email from your publisher saying that they've shipped my copy of your book. Looking forward to reading it.
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Further news:

The new FN49 book is for sale on eBay!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW
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Old December 03, 2004, 14:13   #432
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I hope you enjoy the book. Let me know what you think as you will be one of the first people on the Files to see it. In fact, I haven't seen the actual book yet as it just came out of the printers yesterday ... I have only seen PageMaker printouts. So, you will see it before me!

Interesting about eBay !

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FN-49 Survey Has Been Discontinued

After nearly three years, I am discontinuing my FN-49 survey activity. My thanks to all the people who took the time to capture and submit the data on their FN-49 rifles and related equipment over the past 34 months.

The results of the survey, along with several thousand hours of other research, were documented in a recently published 200 page book on the FN-49 (see www.fn49.com).

Best regards,

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Old December 13, 2004, 10:17   #434
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For those that were interested, signed FN-49 books are now available from the publisher.

Also, the web ordering feature, and the publishers FAX line, are operating and he is receiving orders on both.

The publisher mentioned that he has a "holiday special" and is offering free shipping through Jan. 31 - mention you saw it on FAL Files when ordering.

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Old April 16, 2005, 21:07   #435
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Removal of Argie thread protector

OK, bought the signed copy of the book, loved it after being disappointed w/ Poyer's rehash. When I get aroundtoit, I'll tear apart my 8 different FN49s and analyze them BY THE BOOK! :^)

Has anyone addressed the issue of removal of the welded Argentine thread protector? I could remove the barrel, set it up in my lathe and turn the welded one off, but my lathe doesn't do metric threads, so there I'm stuck! Has any one had a simpler idea?

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Thanks for buying a copy of the book; I hope you liked it .....

On the welded muzzle cap, people have attacked this in various ways. Some have ground the weld down until they get to the muzzle cap itself where they can see the hole for the spanner wrench - then remove the weld in the hole by using a drill or small end mill down thru the hole until you just get to the threads. If any weld is present over the front or back of the muzzle cap, onto the barrel, some have attacked this with a dremmel tool. I guess there's a number of ways to handle it.

If you need a better answer, you may want to start a new post on this subject. There may not be a lot of people paying attention to this old survey thread. With a new post, perhaps the machinists out there will chime in on other methods.


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Old April 20, 2005, 11:28   #437
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I got a file and a drill and a dremel. More work! Thanks Goose. Did you go to the Tulsa show. only saw four fn 49s. Met a guy who had bought your book and reconized a columbian that was nice and correct, then purchased it. Saw a nice refinised AL marked one and two Vennies one a little rough and one a mix master.
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Nope, wasn't at the Tulsa show. I rarely find many really good FN-49s at shows anymore and most of the ones I've bought lately have been as a result of networking with other collectors.

I do still need 2 Indonesians and 2 Brazilians ..... but it could be MANY years before I find those ....

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I haven't been paying much attention to the view count on this thread since last December but did notice that it jumped up over 300 views just in the past 3 or 4 days!

There is really not much hard data on this thread ... I guess I'm curious as to what people are getting out of it. Perhaps the traffic is from visitors to the board.

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Old April 09, 2007, 09:17   #440
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without goose book or should I say right after it the discontiued survey is the best source of info on fn 49s. Your book is tops but only if you know about it.
Wouldn't mind finding an al marked one I think thats one of the hard to find 06s except for the ones goose mentioned.
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Your book is tops but only if you know about it.
We have to rely on word-of-mouth ... print advertising is just too expensive. We ran some small ads for the book in Shotgun News but had little yield from those ads. Some of the book retailers feature the book on their web sites so some folks become aware of it that way. Additionally, some of the gun show book sellers carry it as well.

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Wouldn't mind finding an al marked one I think thats one of the hard to find 06s
AL = Luxembourg contract. The Lux rifles are actually the most common of the 30-06-chambered contracts here in the U.S. so if you want an '06 rifle - you will most likely end up with a Lux. While there are only about 6,000 of these around, they do show up on the auction sites and at gun shows from time to time.

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Must have meant the ABL BECAUSE i have the common one, will have to go look.
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Must have meant the ABL ...
ABL = Belgian contract. Not many Belgians in the U.S. and just about all that are here have had the ABL crest removed. I have not found anyone yet that has a "crested" ABL in the U.S.

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ABL = Belgian contract. Not many Belgians in the U.S. and just about all that are here have had the ABL crest removed. I have not found anyone yet that has a "crested" ABL in the U.S.
Found someone with a crested ABL that lives in the U.S. ... so there's at least one ...

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Goose52,

Just a heads-up, I PMd you about a Venezuelan 7mm.
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he he. bought your book. glad to see i participated in collecting the data!
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...bought your book...
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.308 FN49 barrel??

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After nearly three years, I am discontinuing my FN-49 survey activity. My thanks to all the people who took the time to capture and submit the data on their FN-49 rifles and related equipment over the past 34 months.

The results of the survey, along with several thousand hours of other research, were documented in a recently published 200 page book on the FN-49 (see www.fn49.com).

Best regards,

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Looking for a .308 barrel for a FN49. Is there any source for one other than turning from a barrel blank?
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Looking for a .308 barrel for a FN49. Is there any source for one other than turning from a barrel blank?
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Buy an Argy. Other than that some 30-06 and 8mm turn up once in a while.
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After nearly three years, I am discontinuing my FN-49 survey activity. My thanks to all the people who took the time to capture and submit the data on their FN-49 rifles and related equipment over the past 34 months.

The results of the survey, along with several thousand hours of other research, were documented in a recently published 200 page book on the FN-49 (see www.fn49.com).

Best regards,

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Well - this announcement was in December 2004. A dozen years later, and the SECOND edition is now in-work. If you have any feedback to the first edition, visit: The FN-49 - The Last Elegant Old-World Military Rifle - SECOND Edition

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