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Old November 16, 2017, 07:51   #51
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Old November 16, 2017, 08:13   #52
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SIG556XI and LWRC M6A2 upper on a Palmetto lower.

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Old November 20, 2017, 08:35   #53
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Some fine looking gardware you have there Scotty!
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Have any of you folks handled/shot the T91 upper being brought in by Wolf?
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SIG556XI and LWRC M6A2 upper on a Palmetto lower.

Is that Diamond site's ?

What red dot is that .^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Guy on fleabay selling that same machined aluminum BUIS site set for $22 recently. Ordered one set, liked so much cut deal with him for a dozen sets at nice discount, ran out & bought another half dozen. All aluminum & function perfectly except sticker says Made in China but it comes off real easy. Sorry for whoever lost their job but $75 for plastic Magpul vs $20 aluminum going with the aluminum. Already figured out how to put tritium post in front site and cowitness with C More aluminum chassis red dot.

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Just checked half dozen vendors with either same or similar from $20 to $25 per set. While all come from China be sure to order from vendor that advertises U.S. Inventory or may be waiting for international shipping. Am currently messaging back and forth with one of the Asian sellers on buying a gross, 144 sets in single purchase. Split half off to LGS and keep me plus friends in inexpensive but good aluminum BUIS sights for a long time. The ones I got take a milspec M4/AR 15 front site post so swapping in a tritium is easy but suggest chasing the threads with blind hole tap first in case they used a metric tap and fronf post that week. Heard of that happening.
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Yep , I got 2 set's off ''egay'' for $20 shipped , a Texas seller . I put the real deal Diamonds on my LWRC M6IC SPR .
More of an open site range for me . The original site's were to hard to see the front Post . Old age eye's I guess
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Finished ; Parts bought from 5 different forums & KCMGS ...

LWRC PDW Clone 8.1'' pistol , Piston Drive
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LWRC 8.1'' Heavy Barrel 1/7
LWRC one pc. BCG
Gen4 Gunfighter CH
LWRC M6 Upper receiver
7'' LWRC Free Float Quad rail w/ KAC RAS ,
LWRC Original Flash Hidder ,
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AR Stone Trigger w/ 3.5lb spring kit
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Colt 20rd w/ grey Alum. anti tilt follower
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Old December 19, 2017, 09:55   #59
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Picked up a few more Grey & Tan Mag's the other day , (before Huey buy's them all out) ...lol...

They go Great with my Sniper Grey LWRC M6IC SPR .

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After a long delay, I am now a member of the AR piston club. Titan Defense 415, 16" for now--soon to be 14.5". Had a spare Colt Piston Carbine lower, so all is kosher.
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Picked up a few more Grey & Tan Mag's the other day , (before Huey buy's them all out) ...lol...

They go Great with my Sniper Grey LWRC M6IC SPR .
Don't worry, your guy has more coming and having to watch funds right now as have an AR 10, two super nice 10/22's and turn bolt build to put glass on top. Most of my funds will be going to glass and a new ham radio tower at the house while leaves are off trees and easier to trim limbs that need to go plus install a couple mono band cut dipoles in some tall trees that haven't been wired yet. Also been investing in new radio gear and medical bills. Getting old costs money.
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After a long delay, I am now a member of the AR piston club. Titan Defense 415, 16" for now--soon to be 14.5". Had a spare Colt Piston Carbine lower, so all is kosher.
Dammit , you had a Colt Piston lower ? Man ! Does the lower have piston roll marks ?

On GB there is Colt piston upper receiver's for $59 + shipping & one PC. Colt M16 piston carrier's , cheap . 3 different price's , for the finished product , & not finished .


I have the links saved in my Gun Broker account , if you want the links LMK ,I'll PM them to ya .
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Don't worry, your guy has more coming and having to watch funds right now as have an AR 10, two super nice 10/22's and turn bolt build to put glass on top. Most of my funds will be going to glass and a new ham radio tower at the house while leaves are off trees and easier to trim limbs that need to go plus install a couple mono band cut dipoles in some tall trees that haven't been wired yet. Also been investing in new radio gear and medical bills. Getting old costs money.
I know what you mean about glass costing so much . I like my iron site's , but now a days , the glass really help's for those 600-800m target's .
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After a long delay, I am now a member of the AR piston club. Titan Defense 415, 16" for now--soon to be 14.5". Had a spare Colt Piston Carbine lower, so all is kosher.

you will probably discover that you like a piston AR

quick easy cleanup

I have PWS, very smooth recoil impulse
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I need a pistol length piston upper setup now if someone trips across one cheap. Want to do my first real pistol build with short barrel and piston makes more sense than DI for barrel length under 10". Want to do my best imitation of a SIG MCX Rattler.
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I need a pistol length piston upper setup now if someone trips across one cheap. Want to do my first real pistol build with short barrel and piston makes more sense than DI for barrel length under 10". Want to do my best imitation of a SIG MCX Rattler.
If you want to go cheap , Adams Arms is the way to go .
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LWRC PDW Clone 8.1'' pistol , Piston Drive
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LWRC one pc. BCG
Gen4 Gunfighter CH
LWRC M6 Upper receiver
7'' LWRC Free Float Quad rail w/ KAC RAS ,
LWRC Original Flash Hidder ,
4x32 Acog Clone , w/ kill flash
LWRC backup site ,
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AR Stone Trigger w/ 3.5lb spring kit
KAK Blade & tube
Colt 20rd w/ grey Alum. anti tilt follower

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$700 Complete ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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After a long delay, I am now a member of the AR piston club. Titan Defense 415, 16" for now--soon to be 14.5". Had a spare Colt Piston Carbine lower, so all is kosher.
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Here's my lwrc, 10.5" upper, set up as an sbr.
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Midway had KAC pistol kits complete on super discount couple days ago along with some piston kits. Have a 10.5" Noveske 6.8 barrel that came in a bulk item deal as normally have no interest in such but plan now is to combine the pistol length piston kit, Noveske 10.5" barrel and KAC pistol kit into my first piston drive AR and first true personal pistol build. Should make nice compact gun that will be accurate to a couple hundred yards and hit hard on target. Let the fun begin, just waiting on parts. Tomorrow the plan is to build another 18" Noveske 6.8 and finish a 16" ARP 6.8 night vision rifle using aN ATN X Sight bought way cheap.
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Is it a DI ? Or Piston Drive ? ''Splat'' Looks great .....
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So I had my first pair of piston kits show up yesterday. Standard Adam Arms fare on a clearance sale in carbine length going on a pair of 12.5" barrels. As digging out the short tubes found a pair of Noveske 10.5" Afgan Profile tubes forgot I had as said would never bu I ld a 10.5" barrel. But being Noveske I got curious. In my digging found some pistol length Superlative Arms piston kits that are not much more than can by Adams. The Superlative Arms kits look like jewelry and have a lot of experience with their gas blocks, all good. So for you piston guys, at a $30 per kit difference would you splurge on the Superlative Arms kits or save $60 on the pair and go with Adams Arms? Might be worth trying just to see how differently they act. The DI or its "FREAKING WRONG" guy has a pair of piston kits and looking at two more.

The rouge meteor or planet killing solar flare everyone has feared for generations must be close as I was absolutely sure I didn't need no stinking piston guns with proprietary parts I couldn't pull out of my repair kits or rob off another rifle. But after shooting a SIG Rattler and seeing photos of a special ops guy engaging 600 to 800 meter targets with a 9.5" SIG piston AR with 90% hit ratio (other guys in his unit were not clearing the course near as fast as he using mix of 13.7" and 14.5" rifles) I have wanted a SIG Rattler but $2,000 with 300 BO only caliber going to use pieces have laying around. Nobody can argue with quality of a Noveske Afgan barrel. While designed for special ops been rumored Secret Service has a lot of Noveske 10.5" Afgan builds close at hand. Fits under a long rain coat or in briefcase just fine.

Pistol length gas, piston drive are both new to me as ground up builds. Have fixed several at LGS but a bent op rod or obvious improper buffer choice is easy to diagnose. One came in and owner had "adjusted" his totally turning off the gas and wondered why it didn't work but seen people do similar with adjustable blocks on D.I. guns. If the Noveske 5.56 tube holds MOA with a scope as have seen others do before swap it to a dot would be super stoked and sub 2 MOA on the 6.8 with a 3x optic and will have some new serious toys to tote around.

Anyone built on a Superlative kit?
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Never heard of that company .

I've ran a few different Adams arm's (Carbine & Mid length), with no luck . All started to fail around the 800rds . mark .

I'd run a DI before putting my life on the line for anything less than a LWRC or a Sig .

It's like comparing a ; Honda to Harley / VW to Cadillac / Hooker to Virgin / BB gun to 50cal.

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Superlative Arms is a top line company on most parts. Make one of my top four adjustible gas blocks for DI rifles ranking between Noveske Switchblock at top and MicroMOA Govnah below it. Once a Govnah is set up its simplest of all with only three settings. Suppressed, unsuppressed and extreme mode for full gas if rifle is gummed up. Have to drill proper size holes for each rifle to adjust the Govnah for suppressed and unsuppressed but once tuned just use tip of a loaded round or any pointy object to slide it to position needed. The Superlative has like 20 settings including fully close for single shot mode. It also bleeds excess gas away from operator along with venting some of muzzle flash. Their piston drive uses same setup on gas blocks.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/10...able-gas-block

Above is exact kit am looking at but different vendor as where found them only have a few so till decide if going to buy and hope they don't all sell out. Would be hard for me to believe Superlative would make a poor product. Have seen Adams work fine, seen a few with issues but as a tech behind the gun counter when discuss with owner who installed the kit can't help but feel a lot of the issue was inability to properly install and adjust the kit.

While POF is generally regarded as decent stuff we have two total factory built piston rifles that owners are true shooters that know their stuff, one is store manager that have been back to factory for repair more times than can count. Hard to trust a rifle that has had more than six total failures requiring return to factory plus uncountable in house repairs. That said a lot of POF's have gone out and know their owners buy lots of ammo by the case and hammer theirs without even a hiccup.

It's one of the reasons have never wanted a piston gun before now but watching SIG's roll out the door and never see again, take them to range and pound the crap out of pistols and rifles with zero issues. My first cousin has a folding stock Rattler with Saker can and we ran 600 rounds through it in one afternoon only putting it down when got too hot to hold. Was running as well at end of day as start without any cleaning. Have used demo SIG piston rifles and pistols where we were encouraged to abuse them including a 516 Patrol with binary trigger plus 1,200 rounds of free ammo. Give four shop employees a binary rifle with that much ammo and several Magpul D-60 drum magazines and the rifle is going to be treated like a crack hoe at a fraternity party. So know piston works if done right and totally sucks if not right and some are just never right.

The pair of Noveske Afgan barrels found yesterday will either be 100% reliable piston guns or I will show them the torch. Cannot afford a $2,000 SIG Rattler but believe a person should be able to build a reasonable approximation that is reliable. Just want to make sure I start with a good pistol length piston kit. Not many reviews of the Superlative kits and don't trust reviews anyway. Man does too many negative reviews and vendors stop sending him products to review.

Over half the folks at barfcom are of the same I.Q. level as the folks that put a folding stock on an SKS, 30 round mag and call it the ultimate battle rifle after they have done enough mods it doesn't function correctly anymore. Pisses me off when folks buy a perfectly good preban SKS then bring it back after swapping stock, adding 30 round plastic fixed mag and whine about the bolt not locking back, make it work. Had one guy being an @$$ so while he wandered stuck an original ten round box mag in it and when he came back said it worked perfect. Look on his face was priceless when he saw basically the same mag he replaced on the rifle and said he wanted it to work with his 30 round mag. Told him he couldn't have that but could put a preban 20 round box mag on for $100 which he didn't like either.

Paid $150 each for the two Adams Arms carbine length kits on clearance. If don't like them on the 12.5" barrels will be easy enough to swap them to D.I. but if build the 10.5" Noveske barrels whatever piston kit use has to work as won't run a pistol length D.I. gun as know it will break extractors and bolts as part of their nature of being over gassed.
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Superlative Arms is a top line company on most parts. Make one of my top four adjustible gas blocks for DI rifles ranking between Noveske Switchblock at top and MicroMOA Govnah below it. Once a Govnah is set up its simplest of all with only three settings. Suppressed, unsuppressed and extreme mode for full gas if rifle is gummed up. Have to drill proper size holes for each rifle to adjust the Govnah for suppressed and unsuppressed but once tuned just use tip of a loaded round or any pointy object to slide it to position needed. The Superlative has like 20 settings including fully close for single shot mode. It also bleeds excess gas away from operator along with venting some of muzzle flash. Their piston drive uses same setup on gas blocks.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/10...able-gas-block

Above is exact kit am looking at but different vendor as where found them only have a few so till decide if going to buy and hope they don't all sell out. Would be hard for me to believe Superlative would make a poor product. Have seen Adams work fine, seen a few with issues but as a tech behind the gun counter when discuss with owner who installed the kit can't help but feel a lot of the issue was inability to properly install and adjust the kit.

While POF is generally regarded as decent stuff we have two total factory built piston rifles that owners are true shooters that know their stuff, one is store manager that have been back to factory for repair more times than can count. Hard to trust a rifle that has had more than six total failures requiring return to factory plus uncountable in house repairs. That said a lot of POF's have gone out and know their owners buy lots of ammo by the case and hammer theirs without even a hiccup.

It's one of the reasons have never wanted a piston gun before now but watching SIG's roll out the door and never see again, take them to range and pound the crap out of pistols and rifles with zero issues. My first cousin has a folding stock Rattler with Saker can and we ran 600 rounds through it in one afternoon only putting it down when got too hot to hold. Was running as well at end of day as start without any cleaning. Have used demo SIG piston rifles and pistols where we were encouraged to abuse them including a 516 Patrol with binary trigger plus 1,200 rounds of free ammo. Give four shop employees a binary rifle with that much ammo and several Magpul D-60 drum magazines and the rifle is going to be treated like a crack hoe at a fraternity party. So know piston works if done right and totally sucks if not right and some are just never right.

The pair of Noveske Afgan barrels found yesterday will either be 100% reliable piston guns or I will show them the torch. Cannot afford a $2,000 SIG Rattler but believe a person should be able to build a reasonable approximation that is reliable. Just want to make sure I start with a good pistol length piston kit. Not many reviews of the Superlative kits and don't trust reviews anyway. Man does too many negative reviews and vendors stop sending him products to review.

Over half the folks at barfcom are of the same I.Q. level as the folks that put a folding stock on an SKS, 30 round mag and call it the ultimate battle rifle after they have done enough mods it doesn't function correctly anymore. Pisses me off when folks buy a perfectly good preban SKS then bring it back after swapping stock, adding 30 round plastic fixed mag and whine about the bolt not locking back, make it work. Had one guy being an @$$ so while he wandered stuck an original ten round box mag in it and when he came back said it worked perfect. Look on his face was priceless when he saw basically the same mag he replaced on the rifle and said he wanted it to work with his 30 round mag. Told him he couldn't have that but could put a preban 20 round box mag on for $100 which he didn't like either.

Paid $150 each for the two Adams Arms carbine length kits on clearance. If don't like them on the 12.5" barrels will be easy enough to swap them to D.I. but if build the 10.5" Noveske barrels whatever piston kit use has to work as won't run a pistol length D.I. gun as know it will break extractors and bolts as part of their nature of being over gassed.

you do have a good grasp on the limits of 5.56 DI uppers, 10.5" pistol is basically the very extreme limit for a 5.56 DI upper, while a 12.5" can still be relatively reliable the same cannot be said for the 10.5", it will function but becomes questionable for reliability every time you squeeze the trigger (in most cases)

While I cannot relate to you any personal experience w/ short stroke piston systems I do have time w/ my PWS uppers w/ the long stroke piston system (based on the time tested AK47 piston system), the MK107 Diablo w/ 7" barrel can easily make 300 yd hits (in both 7.62x39 and 5.56) the MK109 w/ a 9" barrel for the .300 blackout can also make 300 yard hits I have not had chance to take shots w/ either @ more than 300 yds

w/ a quality barrel in your build hits at distance become relatively simple

the new choice by the USMC to replace the M240 w/ the M27 from HK drastically improves the accurate hit potential vs the M240
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Can't seem to find any LWRC piston conversion kits, just complete uppers and rifles. While searching did find a review site where their budget piston kit choice was Adams, ultimate piston kit Barrett and claimed their previous recommended piston kit was the LWRC but now unseated by Superlative Arms kits. Said had tested both extensively but like the Superlative Arms piston kits as best on the market for dollars invested. Have researched my skinny white @$$ off and the interview with John Noveske at bottom of this page on D.I. vs piston drive is a hoot. My guess now is the people who sell piston kits chipped in for the contract to kill him. I have never been let down with any pre or post death Noveske products.

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All four of the Noveske barrels purchased just after Christmas came from person who was friend of John's and had been sitting on them for years, we're all built while he oversaw quality control and why I stepped up. Add in the Afgan short barrels and have eight before death Noveske tubes and four post death. They are not cutting corners now just as they claim. I will say for the money, there is not a better AR barrel than a Noveske. White Oak Armament shoot as well but wear quicker. ARP is not as accurate out of the box but last longer and at 8,000 rounds through each start shooting with the Noveske and by 15,000 may be out shooting just because of steel selection and melonite process.

Have to lob a lot of rounds to figure some stuff out. FN hammer forged melonite and Smith & Wesson melonite tubes will guess are 20,000 round barrels based on slugging barrels new then at regular intervals. A good melonite tube usually shoots better with wear and settles down after about 1,000 to 2,000 rounds and then kind of shoot the same next 10,000 rounds. That is good barrels, 4130 or 4150 3R and 5R or hammer forged not some of the budget barrels with melonite but it helps most barrels for durability but not for out of box accuracy. Noveske and White Oak are best out of box AR 15 tubes I own but don't have any Kreiger or Bartlein AR tubes which are the best blanks made.

Unless someone can point me to some LWRC piston kits without popping on a complete upper will most likely order a pair of Superlative Arms piston kits for the Noveske 10.5" Afgan builds. Both will go on a KAC pistol kit with brace and get an AAC 51T Ratchet Mount Suppressor mount. Without a can the should be short and oppressive but with a can should still be handy and tolerable. Plan to see how well they function with a Noveske Flaming Pig instead of suppressor and if it directs enough blast and sound forward may leave one set up for non suppressor use. Know a 12.5" barrel with a Flaming Pig is most tolerable short barrel have used to date.
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Never seen a kit, or even ever heard of one being offered by LWRC.
Lucky to get parts off there site .

Never seen piston kits for sale ,

I got parts from 3 different site's to build my 8.1''PDW upper . It had the older 6 tooth barrel nut . And all i had was the newer 9 tooth barrel nut tool . But i jimmied it around to where it was tight at 30 ft lbs . Never came loose yet .
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So will order a pair of Superlative kits and try them out.
Like i said , I never heard of them . But that's me .

I've been watching and wanting an Lwrc for many years . Nothing but greats reviews .

Out of the 4 i picked up this year , 2 are keeper's , and sold the 2 older model's for the more up to date AMBI lower model . It fit my lefty needs to the ''T'' .

I even dumped one of my Pony's to get it .
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Thanks .

Headed to the range this morning , to put it to the test . Also put an 8.1'' PSD together to test today .
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tried to buy one of those limited . . . got the run around from distributor.
XXX were built ONLY for Bear "butthead" distributor.
It has a good list of "I want" stuff on it !
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XXX were built ONLY for Bear "butthead" distributor.
It has a good list of "I want" stuff on it !
They came out with two different Limited Edition . I'm not sure witch came first ? Do you know ?

One was 1of 600 . I miss out on that one . Then a 1of 200 . And I just lucked into that buy . The guy had it stored for sometime . I need to call CS to get the correct Manf. date of this weapon .
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UPDATE ; on the Limited Edition

Called LWRC CS yesterday and had the number's run on the ''Sniper Grey Limited Edition''1 of 200 Built & sold ; It came out of there place 2016 , I was pleased to find out the history on this weapon . It Sold for $2400 plus fees and shipping out of there place .

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I have a Bushmaster Assault Rifle manufactured in Portland Maine. This was originally manufactured in by another company Windham Arms in North Carolina. I bought it in 1986 for $175 because it would not extract the casing unless they were polished clean and this was only 90% of the time. In 1990 I found that the small blue silicon insert in the extractor spring was missing and from that time it was flawless.

This is the folding version and has the black handguard, not the blond wood like the earlier version. This is a long-stroke gas piston not the short-stroke like the current ARs on the market now. AT one time I was thinking of selling it to a friend for $800 with first rights to buy it back if he got cold feet. Now I feel that there few that would have it and the price would be near $1400 due to the last price I saw for a non-folder that was sold on gunbroker. It seems that piston drive is the better option for me as I hate cleaning the burned in lube that I must put on the bolt group to keep my mind from screaming “too much wear” from my mechanical engineering days in school.

All of my self-loaders are gas piston from my FN49 to my FALs so there is a certain common theme that my mind expects! Now I hear Rock River has piston .308 and I have the cash in the safe to own this if I sell one FAL to make room in the ‘crowded house’. I still have two matching Imbel kits for parts that must sleep in the shed due to the limited space so no more room for a piston drive AR
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Waiting for the Vortex SPARC to show up and have a few pieces to button up and it will be ready for testing. The Superlative Arms piston kits arrived along with all other necessary parts. Used the below kit and 10.5" 1:7 barrel and a Colt marked bolt to complete the piston drive bolt carrier and drive group.



SIG upper, Mag Tactical billet magnesium lower, Colt bolt, Colt Competition target trigger, KAC micro piston kit, Slash Heavy Buffer, KAC pistol brace, $3 extended latch on $7.50 aluminum charging handle and $19 aluminum BUIS sights.



Very small and from package but proof will be in the pudding when goes to range. Have an AAC 51T Ratchet Mount suppressor adapter so hopefully with 30 settings in the Superlative Arms piston kit should be able to find a happy setting for suppressed fire as well as setting for unsuppressed. My Superlative Arms DI gas blocks are usually just a few clicks apart if any adjustment is required at all using an AAC 762SDN quick change suppressor. Usually with the 30 caliber cans on 5.56 rifle can get away running same setting with direct impingement. Now I have a piston AR to post in the thread and plan to start the 6.8 twin over the weekend.



Have the 11.5" 5.56 and 6.8 barrels intended to use with the other KAC kits but as handle the 10.5" pistol am considering going smaller instead of bigger. Might order a 6.8 spc II and a 300 BO barrel in 9.5" with pistol length gas and a pair of piston drive kits in pistol drive gas length and see if I can trim them down a tad more. Almost tempted to go to 8.5" and see how they work, even putting a Noveske Flaming Pig on one and seeing if it's tolerable to shoot without a can at least long enough to end a situation. That would take me from no AR pistols and no AR piston drive kits.
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All of my self-loaders are gas piston from my FN49 to my FALs so there is a certain common theme that my mind expects! Now I hear Rock River has piston .308 and I have the cash in the safe to own this if I sell one FAL to make room in the ‘crowded house’. I still have two matching Imbel kits for parts that must sleep in the shed due to the limited space so no more room for a piston drive AR
Suggest just break down and buy another safe. Am up to three now all bolted side to side with the super heavy one in the middle. All are bolted to concrete floor with 1/2" HDPE between bottom of safes and concrete to keep, condensation from rusting bottoms and same on backs bolted to concrete wall. With three safes am able to put my really nice and high dollar rifles in the center safe which would take a professional crew to get through door and now would have to dig through safe on either side to get the main safe.

You could assemble the kits, buy the piston Rock River and just keep adding. For years I let vault space restrict my gun collection from growing and finally added the second safe which made the third vault even easier. With a fourth at work can keep building and now have a challenge again but with so many in fire proof safes can store rest in locking racks, especially the round the main house guns and if house burns still have four vaults of survivors. The center safe should be super fire resistant as have vermiculite fire insulation between the three and wrapping the tops as well plus an extra layer of steel for extra protection on tops of all three.
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Waiting for the Vortex SPARC to show up and have a few pieces to button up and it will be ready for testing. The Superlative Arms piston kits arrived along with all other necessary parts. Used the below kit and 10.5" 1:7 barrel and a Colt marked bolt to complete the piston drive bolt carrier and drive group.



SIG upper, Mag Tactical billet magnesium lower, Colt bolt, Colt Competition target trigger, KAC micro piston kit, Slash Heavy Buffer, KAC pistol brace, $3 extended latch on $7.50 aluminum charging handle and $19 aluminum BUIS sights.



Very small and from package but proof will be in the pudding when goes to range. Have an AAC 51T Ratchet Mount suppressor adapter so hopefully with 30 settings in the Superlative Arms piston kit should be able to find a happy setting for suppressed fire as well as setting for unsuppressed. My Superlative Arms DI gas blocks are usually just a few clicks apart if any adjustment is required at all using an AAC 762SDN quick change suppressor. Usually with the 30 caliber cans on 5.56 rifle can get away running same setting with direct impingement. Now I have a piston AR to post in the thread and plan to start the 6.8 twin over the weekend.



Have the 11.5" 5.56 and 6.8 barrels intended to use with the other KAC kits but as handle the 10.5" pistol am considering going smaller instead of bigger. Might order a 6.8 spc II and a 300 BO barrel in 9.5" with pistol length gas and a pair of piston drive kits in pistol drive gas length and see if I can trim them down a tad more. Almost tempted to go to 8.5" and see how they work, even putting a Noveske Flaming Pig on one and seeing if it's tolerable to shoot without a can at least long enough to end a situation. That would take me from no AR pistols and no AR piston drive kits.
Now take it out and put it to the test .

I remember seeing a BCG like that , but didn't know what it was .
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Have carbine kit coming and going with 7.5" or 8.5" barrel and micro pistol buffer for an even more tiny package. Meeting a guy next week to look at another gun safe. Going to own more safes than most own firearms. Can't stop building as parts are still cheap and finding new things to keep interest peaked.
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Have carbine kit coming and going with 7.5" or 8.5" barrel and micro pistol buffer for an even more tiny package. Meeting a guy next week to look at another gun safe. Going to own more safes than most own firearms. Can't stop building as parts are still cheap and finding new things to keep interest peaked.
I know what you mean about AR's and AR parts being so cheap .

That's why I'm stacking high end quality name AR's also . They are to cheap to pass up . When the panic buying kicks in , I'll be setting back shaking my head , when AR double in value .

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During Sandy Hook I was selling at 8x to 10x original purchase price of combloc rifle/mag/ammo packages and 3x to 5x original purchase AR's. Had some old Oly's bought almost nothing along with build rifles and people were throwing whatever it took to put a kit back.

Priced my stuff 10-20% higher than LGS and only sold when all three local shops shelves were totally empty. Seemed like all would get shipment about same day, contact x number of people on their waiting lists till all rifles were gone in 24 hours and wait a week or more for next shipment. Those weeks were no rifles, magazines or ammo in town would sell one every day or three sometimes two per day. Add in bricks of rimfire, IMI green tip and 30 round GI mags except for reloading components running low and still not down to price would like made a few dollars. Only sold when I was only game in town to people who didn't care what cost and able to throw cash, not run plastic.
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Had a forearm liked better come in along with the Vortex SPARC then added the mag funnel. Even with the finger grooves, ATF does not rule it a vertical grip.

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I like the look ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Screwing up exact copy in 6.8 using Noveske 10.5" Afgan barrel. It will be carbine length too. Have a pair of Superlative Arms pistol length piston kits and a 8.5" Bison 6.8 pistol barrel (made by W.O.A. but it's a secret) to build one of the short kits on and not decided what length want to build a shorty 5.56. Found a shorter pistol tube kit with smaller brace so the true "pistol" pistols will be 5" shorter. Shoot weak hand off kind of short if not careful but be great for security work.

Afraid to use the 5.56 indoors as seen frangible 5.56 rounds break the projectile during feeding as bullets slam into feed ramp. Maybe use some of the 36 grain Varmint Grenades in it for indoors defense. The 6.8 a lot less likely to have shoot through of zombie & hurt innocent. When get the tiny ones finished interested to see how much velocity is sacrificed with short barrels. Anyone run a 7.5" on a 5.56?
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