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Old April 09, 2018, 06:00   #1
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I actually got a car tire mounted by myself in the garage

Just to see if I could do it, I mounted a tire with hand tools in the garage. I used a pry bar, 2 big screw drivers and stood on it some. I used diluted Simple Green cleaner for lube, but next time will try something better. It's not pretty, and if you are real proud of your car, I wouldn't do it. What made it tricky was that it kept sliding on the floor.

I did use a compressor to inflate it and get the bead to seat, but there are hillbilly ways of doing that too.

If it holds air for a day or two, I will get it balanced and use it as a full size spare. One time, I had to drive on 4 unbalanced tires, and could get up to 50 mph before it got too shaky. It sucked but it was better than walking.
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Old April 09, 2018, 06:13   #2
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I did use a compressor to inflate it and get the bead to seat, but there are hillbilly ways of doing that too.
A compressor?...!
Hell man, blow that shit up with lung power!

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Old April 09, 2018, 06:20   #3
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lulz. You need a compressor with a tank so you can get a burst, otherwise hillbilly time.
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lulz. You need a compressor with a tank so you can get a burst, otherwise hillbilly time.
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Dad used to make us boys change a tire occasionally. I think it was a passage of manhood or something. I'd rather bite a raw buffalo liver.
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I did it on the front wheel of my zero turn. It was really small and a super pita. I screwed up the bead a little. Took it off so I could patch from the inside. Put it back on and it leaked Plugged it and said screw it. Hasn't lost any air since doing it last year.
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I have not mounted a auto tire in quite some time
We mount tractor tires pretty regularly with the rim left on the machinery
On cars , Before you set your bead dump 4-6 ounces of equal in the tire and forget about getting it spin balanced
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Do you mean Equal the sweetener?

Just put it on and drove 80 without any problem, so I won't even get it balanced. Maybe I got lucky this time.

One day I need to try and get an old one off a wheel. Think I will just cut it off.

SHTF you need tire skillz.
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Did you get it mounted with the tread in the right direction?
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That's pretty good. Not the sweetener lol

Equal is a rubbery powder stuff for balancing heavy truck tires
There is a chart on the bag for ounces used per tire size
Works pretty good as long as the tire is dry inside and it will compensate for some stuck mud on rims as well
I bought mine at the local heavy truck parts store and use it on my 16" tires with nice aluminum rims I don't want ruined with clip on wheel weights
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Did you get it mounted with the tread in the right direction?

Yah it's a symmetric tire.
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That's pretty good. Not the sweetener lol

Equal is a rubbery powder stuff for balancing heavy truck tires
There is a chart on the bag for ounces used per tire size
Works pretty good as long as the tire is dry inside and it will compensate for some stuck mud on rims as well
I bought mine at the local heavy truck parts store and use it on my 16" tires with nice aluminum rims I don't want ruined with clip on wheel weights
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Okay, I'm such an airhead.
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One day I need to try and get an old one off a wheel. Think I will just cut it off.

SHTF you need tire skillz.
I don't think there is a good way to cut an old tire off! Drive over the rubber part with another vehicle, usually pops the bead, then proceed with tire irons. Might require a couple drivebys. Maybe even a few sledge hammer blows.
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A handyman type jack works good for breaking the beads if you don't have heavy equipment around(a backhoe is my first choice, a front end loader is a close second). Other good option is to lay a 2' long piece of 2x8 on it like a ramp(end flush with the edge of the rim) and drive up onto it.


Murphy's oil soap is a very good bead lubricant(they sell a commercial version to tire shops).

If it seems like it is taking a huge amount of force with the pry bars, you are probably doing it wrong, its more about technique than brute force.

I paid my way through college working in a tire shop, I average 1-2 tires a week on the farm now.
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When I was 15 or so, my dad had a trucking business and he would make my brother and I change flats. Talk about a workout with that Bead Breaker Slide Hammer.
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I had a tire slip off the bead on my F250 a couple months back,so I jacked it up,and sprayed the starting fluid around inside. Hit it with my Bic...a big ole dragons tongue of flame comes out and licks my face. Lost most of my eyebrows and lashes on that one.
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I had a tire slip off the bead on my F250 a couple months back,so I jacked it up,and sprayed the starting fluid around inside. Hit it with my Bic...a big ole dragons tongue of flame comes out and licks my face. Lost most of my eyebrows and lashes on that one.
But, did it work?
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But, did it work?
Oh,yeah,it works great. Just gotta remember to keep my face out of the blast radius. FOOM!
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You can also put a ratchet strap around the tire and tighten it to push the bead out to the rim. I have used this technique on lawn/garden up to light truck tires, usually works just fine. Youtube can show you the jack technique for busting the bead.
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I have broken the beads loose on car tires, light truck tires, and 16 inch motorcycle tires by putting them on a piece of plywood under the front bumper of my old yard truck and using a bumper jack. Once the bead is broken on both sides I use a set of large tire spoons to get the tire off of the rim. I use silicone spray for lube when putting the tire back on the rim. Works on most any rim.
I have changed big truck tires with split rims. Using a tire maul to break a bead will wear your ass right out.
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You can also put a ratchet strap around the tire and tighten it to push the bead out to the rim.
I have used the same technique on huge heavy equipment tires with a 3 ton chain come along. Just don't add too much air before you take it off.
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I'll have to try that strap trick. Had to change a wheel/tire on one of the handtrucks. Cheap Chinese crap,the wheels wear out fast,the tires blow for nothing. I had a couple extra Chinese wheel/tires,but both flat,broke beads. Used the Ether trick. Got one to hold air,the other I pumped up and it just blew out.
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Had the front tire on the gleaner combine go flat over winter, broke the bead
Took about 3 hours to Jack that stupid contraption back up to get daylight under the tread

Used my 1 1/2 ton lug all and a chain to get the beads close , this is a really big tire

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Either with a long trail across floor for a fuse. check
Air hose on tire valve. Check
1 bick lighter . Check
Shit eating grin . Check
Click click WHOOSH !!
Air hose fell off during the ruckus the tire stayed inflated for 1.003 seconds
And went flat again when mr. Combine came off the block piramid
1 busted lug all hoist
1 combine back at square one , I think I heard it snicker at me

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Call me crazy but I purchased a manual tire changing machine over a decade ago mainly for changing motorcycle tires but does car and truck tires as well. Can find them reasonably if lurk around motorcycle forums.
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Had the front tire on the gleaner combine go flat over winter, broke the bead
Took about 3 hours to Jack that stupid contraption back up to get daylight under the tread

Used my 1 1/2 ton lug all and a chain to get the beads close , this is a really big tire

Wile E Cyote super genius

Either with a long trail across floor for a fuse. check
Air hose on tire valve. Check
1 bick lighter . Check
Shit eating grin . Check
Click click WHOOSH !!
Air hose fell off during the ruckus the tire stayed inflated for 1.003 seconds
And went flat again when mr. Combine came off the block piramid
1 busted lug all hoist
1 combine back at square one , I think I heard it snicker at me
That's one of those old galvanized monsters? Doesn't it have a tube in the tire?
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That's one of those old galvanized monsters? Doesn't it have a tube in the tire?

Silver sided pheasant feeder...

One of my combines is mounted tubeless. Real MF to get beads seated, but saved $150 a side on a tube, and they can be fixed without breaking them down if I put an antler through them.
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If have tire that doesn't want to seal bead to inflate put ratcheting strap around diameter of tire center of tread and start snugging till both beads stand proud against the rims. Works almost every time and just lose strap as tire takes air. Some soapy water around bead of tire helps. Have to wrestle wheelbarrow tires this way all the time. For some reason wheelbarrows at work and Ponderosa seem to go flat and give most difficulty of any to get both beads on rim well enough to take air. Have 30 horsepower compressor with over 300 gallons of reserve air and still fight the SOB's. Bigger compressor is your friend and both my tire stores will refuse to touch a tire with green slime in unless pay $100 extra to clean the crap out.
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Proper tire spoons (1/2 inch rodes with ends hammer flattened out toand inch or so wide)

An old tire floor sitting bead breaker form TSC 50 years ago (dad got it when I was but a wee lad)

a good rubber head mallet

an air compressor for comfort and ease or a hand pump

a squeeze bottle of water and dish soap

optional: bead sealer,valve core screwer-unscrewer, valve stem puller, tire puncture reamer, tire plugs, tire plug installer, tire-tube patches, tireboots...

I needed a trailer tire, friend had one: tire at least 10 years old, weather checker, bead sealing surface inner edge ripped about 4 inches but piece still hanging there and tire rubber as stiff as 2 MFer's.

I needed a quick tire, I should have just got a tire from F&F.

I clean up the bead non rim and tire.

I install and apply blue RTV silicone to hold ripped tire sealing piece back in place.

Now I have MS and have to do all this from a chair.

The wrecked tire comes off easy: tip use bead breaker and look at rim, tire spoon tire off side of rim; shallowest depth from facing surface to depth off drop center off rim.

The old hard whore tire has the RTV piece on securely: lube up bead again fined shallowest surface to depth; usually front of rim, hold tire oriented to rim direction desired to install.

hold tire tread on floor, near vertical but enough to stuff that rim; one bead edge at a time into one bead of tire with as much MFING force as you can muster so tire holds in rim.

Hope fully rim is now lodged into tire with edge of bread of tire far into drop center of rim: now you can rubber mallet tire the rest of way on inside of rim or spoon it if you want to take long way around the block.

Of coarse this hard hearted old whore tire wont give so it's got to get spooned on less bite that the width of the spoon so the screw drives come out!

Now tire is half on and start to spoon on other bead, of coarse tire wont stay put so continuous fighting until it spoons on!

Squeeze tire an and smear on liberal amount of bead sealer an the flats of the rim bead under sealing surface of inflated installed tire, smearing the sides of the rim bead is a waste of sealer usually

It took 3 1/2 F#@King hours to do a 10 minute job but I got that Bit@h done!!!

With all the slop on the rim the old WHORRE tire inflated right up!!

Infatuate tire to 44 PSI, recommended for max load was 60 I believe.

Moral of story: told for your amusement, added air to tire once, 2 years later, tire still holds air.










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That's one of those old galvanized monsters? Doesn't it have a tube in the tire?
Silver sided pheasant feeder , I love that one !

Yes , galvanized and black trim and No , it is a F3 with tubeless R4s
A true gargantuan relic , barely fits in the barn

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"I install and apply blue RTV silicone to hold ripped tire sealing piece back in place."

When I was running Goodyear Terra tires on my CJs,I used to spray permatex spray-a-gasket on the beads before blowing them up.That really sticky orange crap in a can. When I ran them really soft,like 10 lbs.,it kept them from spinning off the beads pretty good. It would also work to keep a bead on after you Ethered it up and it gassed back down.
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Tire and rim

What size rim and tire?

Last one I did was a Nissan 14 inch tire and rim,off a 1984 Truck....
a 205 70 14 tire
It was time consuming,but worked out ok..
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What size rim and tire?

Last one I did was a Nissan 14 inch tire and rim,off a 1984 Truck....
a 205 70 14 tire
It was time consuming,but worked out ok..
Oh, 205 65 15, for my commuter car.

I think I might get a bubble balancer.
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The "tire shop" on the right in this photo happens to be in South Africa, but is typical all over the globe in third world countries. They will change a tire to a newer used one by the side of the road with nothing but hand tools.

The "business" on the left is also typical and I suppose somewhat comparable to a "department store" with a variety of miscellaneous items for sale.

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The "tire shop" on the right in this photo happens to be in South Africa, but is typical all over the globe in third world countries. They will change a tire to a newer used one by the side of the road with nothing but hand tools.

The "business" on the left is also typical and I suppose somewhat comparable to a "department store" with a variety of miscellaneous items for sale.
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In the old days, 1960's we did it all the time on the farm.

If the tire was junk, just drive on it and break the bead, screw drivers do the rest.
Mounting took ingenuity to keep a knee on the low side, while using spoons.

I did all my race car tires by hand; piece of cake.

Last difficult ones I did by hand, was a set of BFG TA's on a 70 mustang. They are still on the car.

Local garage had a tire changer that was mostly manual; you used a long bar to remove and to install the tire. It did have a bead breaker, however.
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I thought Mebs was a "Mounting" the tire, Poor Mebs.

Was going to say I bet that made ya sore. But then I realized he was actually FIXING the tire.

Over the years I have had a few tire changing machines and have used about every type made and have changed tires from model toys to Giant dump truck tires, Yeah , the starting fluid is real handy and I light a rag on the end of a stick to put flame to the mix, helps save yer Hair...

Currently have a John Bean machine that I got from scwaub as Junk, 2 of them, made one nice machine Cost= My time. 0$

And Mebs, A Bubble ballancer is nearly a must have.
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