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Old February 27, 2019, 20:05   #1
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SAR-48 Questions

Hi! I recently acquired one of my dream guns, an SAR-48. It is in excellent shape and is a low serial# rifle (#105X). Springfield Armory told me it was manufactured in October, 1985. It has a steel fore-end and bipod on it as I have seen on STG-58’s as opposed to the synthetic furniture I have seen on all other SAR-48’s. Now the obvious answer is that someone replaced it in the past, however has anyone ever heard of early models being offered with steel fore-ends? Also, does anyone know what serial# they started at? I have heard speculation that SA started them at #1,000 but my two emails to SA about this have gone unanswered. Thanks in advance for your help.



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Old February 27, 2019, 20:09   #2
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Iíve never seen (or even heard of) SAR-48s with metal forearms. Were there even S. American contract FNs with metal forearms?
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Old February 27, 2019, 21:20   #3
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It's an aftermarket trigger "shoe". Common in the past making a wider trigger which made the felt pull lighter. Not as popular today it seems.

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Old February 27, 2019, 22:35   #4
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Alright, kinda what I thought about them being replacement hand guards. They looked absolutely new(minus scratches from the bipod) and the finish seemed to match the rifle. No bother, I kinda like it and I guess I can find a synthetic set in the future if I change my mind. And I forgot to mention the trigger shoe. It is unusual and I haven't been able to find it, but I thought in some of the original SA ads they offered that shoe and some mags or something as a promotion onetime. Or maybe I'm crazy. Probably the latter. Anyway, thanks for the info!
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Old February 28, 2019, 09:54   #5
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Just an FYI those metal HG will get hot after a magazine or two. Nice rifle btw Congrats!
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Old February 28, 2019, 10:36   #6
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Just an FYI those metal HG will get hot after a magazine or two. Nice rifle btw Congrats!
But they stimulate a whole cottage industry in chicken mitts.

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Old February 28, 2019, 11:11   #7
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Last I looked, DSA still have new old stock condition Argentine fiber reinforced bipod cut handguards that are virtually identical to the Brazillian ones that are correct for this rifle.
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Old February 28, 2019, 15:23   #8
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Just an FYI those metal HG will get hot after a magazine or two. Nice rifle btw Congrats!
Thanks! I also picked up an older DSA 18” Para that is reportedly in pristine condition that is sitting at my FFL as we speak. On my way to get it in a little while.


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Old February 28, 2019, 15:25   #9
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Last I looked, DSA still have new old stock condition Argentine fiber reinforced bipod cut handguards that are virtually identical to the Brazillian ones that are correct for this rifle.
Thanks! I definitely will pick one of those up.
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Old February 28, 2019, 19:01   #10
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Mine has a SN only hundreds higher but it does have the Springfield cartouche on right exterior mag well. In fact all the SAR48s I've seen, do too. i wonder at what SN that started. The OE Imbel hand-guards weren't great, but anything beats steel. The ones that came with that rifle should still be around. The rest of the rifle looks too clean for the hand-guards to have been worn out or broken. Steel was a sadistic idea West Germans created.
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Old March 01, 2019, 17:22   #11
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Hi! I recently acquired one of my dream guns, an SAR-48. It is in excellent shape and is a low serial# rifle (#105X). Springfield Armory told me it was manufactured in October, 1985. It has a steel fore-end and bipod on it as I have seen on STG-58ís as opposed to the synthetic furniture I have seen on all other SAR-48ís. Now the obvious answer is that someone replaced it in the past, however has anyone ever heard of early models being offered with steel fore-ends? Also, does anyone know what serial# they started at? I have heard speculation that SA started them at #1,000 but my two emails to SA about this have gone unanswered. Thanks in advance for your help.



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As I recall, the first SAR48 ads showed the rifle with steel handguards but I don't know if any were delivered that way. I bought mine in 1987 and it had the usual fiberglass handguards.
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Old March 02, 2019, 01:44   #12
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SN 108x here, fiberglass handguards, also sold 10/85 according to SA. I always assumed they started around 1000 but SA couldnt (or wouldnt) tell me when I asked.
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For the record this is the only way Springfield Armory sold the SAR-48

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Old March 04, 2019, 13:01   #14
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SN 108x here, fiberglass handguards, also sold 10/85 according to SA. I always assumed they started around 1000 but SA couldnt (or wouldnt) tell me when I asked.
SN 18xx here, plastic HGs and Springfield logo on mag well.
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For the record this is the only way Springfield Armory sold the SAR-48

I have a few of those colorful pamphlet ads. Jarhead
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For the record this is the only way Springfield Armory sold the SAR-48
Wrong again. You really should stop posting. You strike out almost every time.

There is a Parkerized 50:00 style not shown or described, as well as the "bush" (Congo) version which is described in the text, but not pictured. They also sold a type II which I believe was the first of the SAR-48s. I've only seen one of those - it had a maroon charge handle knob and maroon short carry handle. And those are only the ones that come to mind right now.

A correct post would be "these are the three most common SAR-48 variations".

Never seen the .22 described in the text, that would be interesting to do a photo-documentary on.
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I have saved and posted here most DSA, ARMSCORP, Springfield Armory, GSI, FN and other's catalogs and flyers at one time or other.
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Old March 05, 2019, 13:55   #18
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I got one like this, serial# 10XX, ordered shortly after Springfield's pre-sale sale was announced in 1986. I think I paid about $750 plus shipping and received the rifle several months after ordering as the date kept getting pushed back. One of the squadron pilots had an FFL and didn't charge for the service.

Gunplumber: You once posted the most apt statement about the Sar48s, something about "no redeeming social quality" Could you please post your exact statement if your wayback machine is working? Thanks. Dave

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Gunplumber: You once posted the most apt statement about the Sar48s, something about "no redeeming social quality" Could you please post your exact statement if your wayback machine is working? Thanks. Dave
I don't think I know what you're referring to. I have nothing negative to say about the SAR-48. If you gave me the choice of an FN 50:00 or a IMBEL SAR 48, I'd take the FN. Then I'd sell the FN and buy two SAR 48s.


Even converted one to a Quasi type 2 (had to get creative around the serial number)

My last two before I moved up to the SCAR 17

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Mark have you ever seen one with a serial number below 1000?



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I don't think I know what you're referring to. I have nothing negative to say about the SAR-48. If you gave me the choice of an FN 50:00 or a IMBEL SAR 48, I'd take the FN. Then I'd sell the FN and buy two SAR 48s.


Even converted one to a Quasi type 2 (had to get creative around the serial number)

My last two before I moved up to the SCAR 17

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Mark have you ever seen one with a serial number below 1000?
Sorry, I don't know. I think mine was 4 digit and below 2000 but without sorting through 30 years of records I can't come up with anything useful.
You wondering if they started with 1000?
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a quick check and the lowest I could find in SAR 48 was 1311, and the highest 12260. Ironically, received both from same well-known member here.

On SAR 4800 most were between 13k and 16k but I have two outliers. 1333 and 831. 1333 made me think I was missing a digit, and it would make sense if the numbering continued after the 48s. But the 831 has me scratching my head.
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a quick check and the lowest I could find in SAR 48 was 1311, and the highest 12260. Ironically, received both from same well-known member here.

On SAR 4800 most were between 13k and 16k but I have two outliers. 1333 and 831. 1333 made me think I was missing a digit, and it would make sense if the numbering continued after the 48s. But the 831 has me scratching my head.
I own SAR-48 in 7.62 with serial # 1259X
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a quick check and the lowest I could find in SAR 48 was 1311, and the highest 12260. Ironically, received both from same well-known member here.

On SAR 4800 most were between 13k and 16k but I have two outliers. 1333 and 831. 1333 made me think I was missing a digit, and it would make sense if the numbering continued after the 48s. But the 831 has me scratching my head.
I want to know how many 4800 .556 rifles are in existence. Anyone know? Iíve read a couple different things.
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I want to know how many 4800 .556 rifles are in existence. Anyone know? Iíve read a couple different things.
Hmm - I didn't check the caliber. Maybe the low number were .223, then the others fit in the "continue SAR 48 serial number" pattern.
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I want to know how many 4800 .556 rifles are in existence. Anyone know? Iíve read a couple different things.
I don't think honk anyone knows for sure but there is a thread with some numbers in it.

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Sorry, I don't know. I think mine was 4 digit and below 2000 but without sorting through 30 years of records I can't come up with anything useful.
You wondering if they started with 1000?
Exactly. I have never seen one mentioned below 1000 on the Files.

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