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Old November 08, 2018, 10:29   #101
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I rebarreled a Entreprise Type 1 ABNI stamped receiver....and forgot something
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Old November 08, 2018, 10:31   #102
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good thing they included a rubber band huh
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Old November 08, 2018, 10:46   #103
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just hope my dumbass don't forget! or i will be looking for it too
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Old November 08, 2018, 10:46   #104
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My Rifal has the name Virginia Petale widdled into the stock. My Rifal will be named Virginia appropriately...😊
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Old November 08, 2018, 10:59   #105
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just hope my dumbass don't forget! or i will be looking for it too
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Old November 08, 2018, 11:19   #106
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Cuban/Chilean Fal

Theirs one already on Gun Broker for 875.00 fixed price.790095408
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Old November 08, 2018, 11:43   #107
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Theirs one already on Gun Broker for 875.00 fixed price.790095408
Was posted about a day after sarco released them online. Probably got it at knob Creek. Heard they had them there for $500 according to some previous forums.
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Old November 08, 2018, 13:01   #108
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I am leaning toward left over kits from Spiral Fab.He had these for years.Had a few dealings with him over the years.EX1
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Old November 08, 2018, 21:30   #109
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Mine has a Cuban triangle lower, brown hand guards. Did Chile have the brown hand guards? I don't ever remember hearing about, or seeing these before.
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Old November 08, 2018, 21:50   #110
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Mine doesn't have a triangle lower, therefore Chilean I assume. Hand guards are black, with a "Marvin el Hondur" carved on one side. Assume it would have read "Marvin el HondureŮo" translated "Marvin the Honduran". This individual may have been one of the users of this riFAL, or at least some part of the kit. Was Marvin a Contra who received his firearm while at a Contra camp in Honduras during the war against the Sandinistas in Nicaragua? Don't know at all, but it would make for an interesting theory that the Chilean guns were supplied to the forces fighting against the Sandinista and captured or turned in at the end of hostilities.
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Old November 08, 2018, 22:02   #111
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Canít wait to get done not killing turkeys in NE Washington state to see my kit and what interesting parts may be in it. Cool thread guys, keep posting pictures of kits and rifles.
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Mine has a Cuban triangle lower, brown hand guards. Did Chile have the brown hand guards? I don't ever remember hearing about, or seeing these before.
The brown hand guards were prevalent on the FN Greek contract FAL's.
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Old November 09, 2018, 15:40   #113
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From what Iíve seen theyíre not the same color. I call the Greeks ďplumĒ while the SNFL are a more chocolate
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Old November 09, 2018, 19:55   #114
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Over the years, I have been very happy with my parts orders from Sarco. But they do lie. When I call to order, they tell me to be patient, & the order will arrive in 10 days, to 2 weeks. 4 days later, UPS shows up with my order. LIARS. GARY
Tell me about it. I'm still waiting for my two Bren L4 7.62 Nato barrels that I ordered years ago.
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Old November 09, 2018, 19:56   #115
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I am leaning toward left over kits from Spiral Fab.He had these for years.Had a few dealings with him over the years.EX1
Is Spiral Fab still around? I bought parts and kits from him when I first joined the FAL FILES.
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I got a tracking # today for my second kit...
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Old November 09, 2018, 20:24   #117
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From what Iíve seen theyíre not the same color. I call the Greeks ďplumĒ while the SNFL are a more chocolate
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This set would be perfect for a Cuban build.


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Old November 09, 2018, 21:58   #119
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I got a tracking # today for my second kit...
me too, but again i got the kit today too, barrel was even nicer, triangle lower, that had rust right over it & SN, only spot of rust too, was missing gas tube pin & charging handle lug & pin, but overall better than 1st kit, same crud & nasty, soaking now, see how it cleans up tomorrow
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Old November 10, 2018, 10:32   #120
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Shot the Cuban at the range, now all I need to do is have a STG58 barrel converted to Browning flash hider ,replace the sewer pipe, and Ill be set
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Old November 10, 2018, 15:27   #121
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How are the barrels on these kits?

Someone compared them to G1 barrels - all the G1 kits I bought had great barrels but I may have lucked out...
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Old November 10, 2018, 20:50   #122
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How are the barrels on these kits?

Someone compared them to G1 barrels - all the G1 kits I bought had great barrels but I may have lucked out...
Mine was ok. No pitting, bright and shiney, but not much rifling left.
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Old November 11, 2018, 20:00   #123
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I received my kit last week. The barrel and metal looks to be in decent shape. The handguard is pretty beat up and bent, and the buttstock is also dented. I'm planning on replacing those parts anyways. Mine didn't have a receiver stub on the barrel either. Just a wrap on the threads. The bore looked to be in OK shape. I finally ordered some FAL tools this weekend, so I now have the Chilean and an IMBEL to put together.
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My 2 eSarco Chilean kits.

Well, I finally felt motivated enough to open my box and look over my 2 kits and I think they both have potential. Iím not as excited as some of the rest of you still are because Iím realizing now neither DSA nor Coonan have any Type 1 or Type 2 with carry handle cut out receivers for sale on their websites. I know I could buy a Type 1 without carry handle from DSA right now, and. I know I could buy a Coonan Type 3 without carry handle from eSarco, but I donít want to compromise quite yet. Anyway, here are my photos! 😄👍

A740-C701-70-CA-4182-9-EA1-22-B1-D33-F781-A BBD3-C3-BE-BD90-40-A0-99-DE-54-AF8647766-B DC142136-F1-DD-4166-BC81-69411-BFE39-F3 32-AC7-DA2-0598-49-BB-A516-60-F8-E8-C77-D8-F 07-DB5-BB9-4050-4039-AF43-DA8-B22-E8-D4-BC FCE2-D616-89-CF-4-F77-9087-F11-D271-CAC8-D 4966-EAA3-349-E-4461-A8-FE-AEA9-E2-A2760-F 77-EFE16-F-DF1-D-4366-BF14-547-AF167-F73-F 47556-C00-4-D50-4-E27-A6-F0-97-FE217-F1270 766-A6471-10-AD-4596-BB21-823-DEE57-D04-A C1-A49497-4-EDE-4-C55-BD9-A-FDB58-ED5-EFD7 700-D64-F8-2693-4605-99-DE-7864117-D966-E
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These are my serial numbers.
Bolt carrier 20902
Bolt 23232
Barrel 29079
Lower 10216
If anyone has matches and wants to trade let me know. Also if I have any that match yours pm me and we can possibly work out a swap. Thanks.
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Old November 12, 2018, 15:37   #126
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I’m not as excited as some of the rest of you still are because I’m realizing now neither DSA nor Coonan have any Type 1 or Type 2 with carry handle cut out receivers for sale on their websites. I know I could buy a Type 1 without carry handle from DSA right now, and. I know I could buy a Coonan Type 3 without carry handle from eSarco, but I don’t want to compromise quite yet.
Is it not possible to machine a slot in the receiver for a carry handle after the fact? From what I can tell, it's just a milled slot for the handle to slip into. It wouldn't take much more than 30 minutes of setup and tool time in a mill to do that. Without having handled both types of receivers I don't know if there are any other differences.
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Well, I finally felt motivated enough to open my box and look over my 2 kits and I think they both have potential. Iím not as excited as some of the rest of you still are because Iím realizing now neither DSA nor Coonan have any Type 1 or Type 2 with carry handle cut out receivers for sale on their websites. I know I could buy a Type 1 without carry handle from DSA right now, and. I know I could buy a Coonan Type 3 without carry handle from eSarco, but I donít want to compromise quite yet. Anyway, here are my photos! 😄👍

A740-C701-70-CA-4182-9-EA1-22-B1-D33-F781-A BBD3-C3-BE-BD90-40-A0-99-DE-54-AF8647766-B DC142136-F1-DD-4166-BC81-69411-BFE39-F3 32-AC7-DA2-0598-49-BB-A516-60-F8-E8-C77-D8-F 07-DB5-BB9-4050-4039-AF43-DA8-B22-E8-D4-BC FCE2-D616-89-CF-4-F77-9087-F11-D271-CAC8-D 4966-EAA3-349-E-4461-A8-FE-AEA9-E2-A2760-F 77-EFE16-F-DF1-D-4366-BF14-547-AF167-F73-F 47556-C00-4-D50-4-E27-A6-F0-97-FE217-F1270 766-A6471-10-AD-4596-BB21-823-DEE57-D04-A C1-A49497-4-EDE-4-C55-BD9-A-FDB58-ED5-EFD7 700-D64-F8-2693-4605-99-DE-7864117-D966-E
Looks like you lucked out on your kits. Mine showed up badly rusted and pitted, stock beat up bad and carved, and missing small parts. I guess someone had to get the short straw eh? Waiting on Sarco now until further notice. Funny thing, they received my returned kit last week. Talked to a lady there today and she informed me once they receive a return, allow like 5 to 10 business days for them to even process it, then allow another 5 to 10 business days to ship it. Hoping Sarco comes through positively for me on this.
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Old November 12, 2018, 17:07   #128
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Is it not possible to machine a slot in the receiver for a carry handle after the fact? From what I can tell, it's just a milled slot for the handle to slip into. It wouldn't take much more than 30 minutes of setup and tool time in a mill to do that. Without having handled both types of receivers I don't know if there are any other differences.
yeah it's real basic with the right tooling
it's not a simple direct slot though
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Looks like you lucked out on your kits. Mine showed up badly rusted and pitted, stock beat up bad and carved, and missing small parts. I guess someone had to get the short straw eh? Waiting on Sarco now until further notice. Funny thing, they received my returned kit last week. Talked to a lady there today and she informed me once they receive a return, allow like 5 to 10 business days for them to even process it, then allow another 5 to 10 business days to ship it. Hoping Sarco comes through positively for me on this.
We will probably get each others junk.... iím in the same boat is you.
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Dang brother, sorry to hear that! Well here's hoping for the best, for both of us!
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Looks like you lucked out on your kits. Mine showed up badly rusted and pitted, stock beat up bad and carved, and missing small parts. I guess someone had to get the short straw eh? Waiting on Sarco now until further notice. Funny thing, they received my returned kit last week. Talked to a lady there today and she informed me once they receive a return, allow like 5 to 10 business days for them to even process it, then allow another 5 to 10 business days to ship it. Hoping Sarco comes through positively for me on this.
Well that’s a bummer I would try to return for a refund. I have one more coming today hopefully it’s a nice one. ��
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Sarco Chilean/Cuban Kits, cleaning.

Opnions: clean up and redo the wooden buttstocks or replace them? Iíve seen some really nice stock restorations on YouTube, and I think I want to go that route rather than leaving them stained and beat up. Whatcha think?
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Have enough extra scratch for either a Sarco kit, or Izzy light barrel kit. Just can't decide. Leaning toward the Izzy. What say ye fella's? Which would you choose?
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Old November 13, 2018, 12:53   #134
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Have enough extra scratch for either a Sarco kit, or Izzy light barrel kit. Just can't decide. Leaning toward the Izzy. What say ye fella's? Which would you choose?
My Israeli will be here tomorrow.
All you need to build a Cuban, is a SRA triangle stamped lower, a C stock with a non rotating sling swivel, a Browning flash hider.
You already have the other parts, and there in better shape then what you will find in the Sarco kit I would guess
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Cuban/Chilean Fal

Received one of each. Some small parts are missing, Nothing I don't already have, So no problem. Both butt plates are totally worn out. Butt stocks look like they were spit at and missed,Shit at and hit. Names deeply carved into both.But I also have NOS replacements for both.
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Opnions: clean up and redo the wooden buttstocks or replace them? I’ve seen some really nice stock restorations on YouTube, and I think I want to go that route rather than leaving them stained and beat up. Whatcha think?
When the BGS were sold by APEX I bought about a dozen of those B & C butt stocks from our members and refinished every one of them. They all came out real nice.
The Chilean's are in a really beat up state and you cannot see if there are cracks, splits, dents or gouges underneath all that gook. I tried to remove a little of the surface oil and didn't make much progress and I am going to go with a new stock.
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I guess I got lucky with my stock. After cleaning the majority of the gunk off it seems in decent shape. No splits, or major dents. I scrubbed it with some Krud Cutter cleaner and a scotch bright pad. I don't know if I'll go any further than that, or just leave it as is.

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Old November 14, 2018, 20:06   #138
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I got the first of my Chilean kits in yesterday, thanks everyone for the excellent reviews and pictures which helped me decide to grab a couple.

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Wood stock has no cracks, but it is covered in dents and dings. Someone moved the sling swivel to the left side right where your cheek goes. I wiped it down with mineral spirits to clean it up a bit. Still debating boiling it or leaving it as is.

Metal handguards are bent and dented, but should fit nicely.

Barrel looks great. Lovely patena, flashhider and gas block are in good shape. Gas tube is heavily pitted

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I dont have another FAL barrel handy that isnt spun on a receiver, but using an M14 guage the throat erosion is less than the FN30 barrel I had nearby.

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Lower is unmarked. The grip was beat to hell and back, non cleaning kit type. Recoil spring tube was full of rust inside and out. Bolt was full of rust inside. Heavy pitting on recoil spring and tube, firing pin and spring. Lots of peening on recoil plate, some damage to outside of lower.

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I would be interested in trading if anyone has a match for my stuff.

Overall I am very happy to have a kit with some good history behind it. Hopefully the next one is a fresh unopened M16 bag, and not one of the returned junkers.

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Saw this earlier in the FAL FB group. Spiral Fab ad from the 90s, it was speculated to be the one for these kits

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Sure looks like it. I guess they just had them in storage for some time and decided to make a deal with sarco to get rid of them since they've been out of business for some time. I even got the metal handguards on my kit. God I miss the 90s though. Great music, barreled parts kits and plo ak kits for cheap, Tons of cheap surplus from WW2 and the cold war $50 mosins, $80 sks, PSLs were abundant and $300 ak imports. Great time to be alive.

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yes Spiral Fab, I posted that pic on FB of a old catalog I had on file. Not sure if the Gent is still living, these have must have been from his estate. I started dealing with him in the mid to late 90's, he had much more than these kits. Lot's of C1 parts early FN etc.
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Got my kit in today. This is my first parts kit and was a little disappointed.
Lower: Chilean #30774 stock is nice with ďel chuproĒ on one side and ďemilioĒ on the other.
Carrier: #3555
Bolt: #11828
Barrel: #2544 bore is frosted but not toast yet.

Standard beat to death lower parts, bent gas tube, bent to shit metal hand guards, front sling swivel retained by a bent nail. Altogether Iím relatively happy. If anyone wants to trade a Chilean lower for a Cuban Iíd be interested, also would like a set of fiberglass handguards
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Old November 15, 2018, 20:28   #143
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Opened my kit today hereís what I got:

Chilean lower: 13732 with CHAP scribed on the stock. Butt plate is usable.
Bolt: 23909
Bolt carrier: 3333
Barrel: scrubbed but looks really good in the bore. Gas tube is the most pitted part
Handguards: Fiberglass that might be a brownish/charcoal?? Maybe
Most of the small parts seem to be there, havenít dug thru all of them yet.
Over all Iím really pleased.

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Here is another marking I have on my barrel. This plus the open sided triangle on my chamber face is what lead me to believe its a Cuban contract.


Edit: Not a Cuban feature, probably some other batch marking

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Old November 15, 2018, 21:39   #145
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yes Spiral Fab, I posted that pic on FB of a old catalog I had on file. Not sure if the Gent is still living, these have must have been from his estate. I started dealing with him in the mid to late 90's, he had much more than these kits. Lot's of C1 parts early FN etc.
Thanks for taking the picture, I thought it was pretty cool to see the original ad for what we are buying now.

I wonder if the estate has any more decent stuff laying around. It would be nice to have more barreled kits in circulation.
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Here is another marking I have on my barrel. This plus the open sided triangle on my chamber face is what leads me to believe its a Cuban contract

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I think that may just be a batch letter/number production marking. My kit has an underlines letter and number in the same area. The one in that photo looks like an underlined A and they all seem to have markings on the chamber face
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Dang, I was hoping I had something unique.

Just for giggles, does anybody have a complete Cuban with original barrel?

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Dang, I was hoping I had something unique.

Just for giggles, does anybody have a complete Cuban with original barrel?
What do you mean "complete Cuban?" The only "proprietary" Cubn feature is the triangle stamped lower. The rest of the parts shared other contracts, such as Chili. Not sure if the serial number ranges have been located, and posted, but Cuban barrels don't have any different proofs than the Chileans.
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I wonder, was the Cuban triangle added to the lower by the Belgians, or it it was done by the Cubans after they received the rifles like they did to their aircraft? I assume after since many of the many of the triangles are of different depth into the metal unlike the serial numbers, and I haven't seen use of it's markings under Batista's regime


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What do you mean "complete Cuban?" The only "proprietary" Cubn feature is the triangle stamped lower. The rest of the parts shared other contracts, such as Chili. Not sure if the serial number ranges have been located, and posted, but Cuban barrels don't have any different proofs than the Chileans.
My theory stemmed from reading the ARES Field Guide to IDing the FAL:

Serial Numbers
Serial numbers on FAL rifles may be found on one or both sides of the receiver. They generally appear on the upper rather than on the lower receiver (see Photos 5 and 6). Rifles produced before 1972 all appear to bear a single serial number on the left side (Stevens and Rutten, 1981). This marking indicates the total number of rifles manufactured for a particular country. Thus an FAL rifle marked with serial number 123456 on the left side can be identified as the 123,456th rifle manufactured for the purchasing country. As a result of this marking system, rifles made for different countries may bear the same serial number. Some pre-1972 FN FAL rifles are marked with another serial number in the magazine well that may reflect the total number of FN FAL produced to date of manufacture, however this does not appear to be standard on all rifles (see Photo7). It is not clear when this marking practice was introduced, or precisely which rifles it was applied to


Since both countries probably ordered similar quantities of rifles, there would be a huge overlap of serial numbers. If the Cubans requested the triangle as part of their contract, and didnt add them afterwards, then I figured they might have had similar markings applied on other pieces to denote their property.
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