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Old August 18, 2014, 11:22   #1
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L2A1 Tangent rear sight

OK Today I got my first close up look at the L2A1 tangent rear sight and I am thinking about making these. I have a few questions and more will follow

A.) Are dust covers with the necessary base readily available?

B.) Do these require a special dustcover, can I braze the base on to any old dustcover, or do I have to find a way to reinforce an existing dust cover in order to make this happen?

C.) Flossymac had sent me a Mauser rear sight I guess to try and tempt me into making something that would work with that. Would there be interest in that, or will people that are looking for something like and L2A1 rear sight want to keep things as original as possible?

D.) Is there an advantage to the L2A1 type sight as opposed to the usual FAL rear sight?

Anybody else have anything to add to this discussion, I am interested in hearing what you have to say.
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Old August 18, 2014, 12:06   #2
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Dilemma #1 how do I remove the windage screw. I would like to do this the right way.
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Old August 18, 2014, 13:15   #3
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What windage screw?
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Old August 18, 2014, 13:16   #4
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http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=327471. This thread may help.
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Old August 20, 2014, 18:50   #5
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A few NOS covers made it in from the UK.
I bought one and sold it after selling my Malaysian.

Never had the whole sight so can't help with disassembly advice.

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Old August 27, 2014, 01:13   #6
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I believe the original dust covers were dimpled to take the screws. This, in my opinion, should be done as close to original if you're going to this much trouble. Just my .02 cents.


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Old August 27, 2014, 14:59   #7
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modified a flat screw driver to take off the nut on the windage screw. Right now I am focused on the flat spring that also acts as a detente.

Regarding dimples in the top cover, I think its only a reinforcing measure. It has nothing to do with any mounting screws.
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Old August 28, 2014, 17:32   #8
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as these came from Lithgow I wonder if they used a site from some rifle in Aussie like enfield or Slazenger or something ?

I have a complete L2A1 sight I can post pic's if that helps
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Old September 03, 2014, 17:18   #9
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Bump for my "BITCH"!!! Where are we on this?
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Old September 04, 2014, 18:15   #10
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need some more time if you are willing to give it. I have just the slider and sheet metal spring fully drafted. I am thinking of machining out that sheet metal spring. Just getting twenty to 30 pcs made is not a feasible option. I can just temper the part that does the detenting.

Right now I just plotted the curve for the ramp so am adding that detail in to the drawing. Still working out a way to produce a single curve with all those plotted points in CAD R14.

The numbered part is gonna be a bit of a pita to draw lest I drill the rivet holding it to the base ( I don't feel like doing that, lest flossymac wants to refinish the sight?).

Only parts left to draw is the windage screw, set screw, retaining plate, big spring, numbered part, and peep.

I apologize for this taking so long. If it was easy, or if I had CMM equipment, or this was my full time job...... I'd be done a long time ago.
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Old September 04, 2014, 18:17   #11
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as these came from Lithgow I wonder if they used a site from some rifle in Aussie like enfield or Slazenger or something ?

I have a complete L2A1 sight I can post pic's if that helps
PLease pics of individual parts if possible as my camera $ux real bad and every once in a while I have a question about a part and nothing to refer to image wise.
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Old September 04, 2014, 18:35   #12
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I'm in no hurry!!! Just want a finished product!!!!!! Don't really care what it costs as long is less than the real one. Do you realize how hard these are to get?? Normally you have to chance on a complete gun. This is the only one that I know of bought loose since back from outside. If there were, was, is or will be.... I would love another! In truth there may of been others of these available over the last four years, just outside my realm of access or knowledge. BTW is pretty vast.
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Old September 04, 2014, 18:49   #13
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Let me say this again..... "Do you realize how hard these are to get?". MM If people think that on Wednesday next week, Monday January 12, 2017, or October 07, 2018 they will see one for sale, priced at $69.99, SORRY they just should not plan on it!! This may be their only chance to get one!!! I know what I paid and would pay for the next I see! How many out there are willing to do the same for the L2 for their collection. If enough jump on the wagon for this, I will loan my gas block again as a test sample for some sort of manufacture. Again the only of its kind that I have bumped into. One of my friends also has a toilet plunger that he would like copied. Same thing with my NOS barrel. To me, and a few others around here this is a PRICELESS chance!!! You are a HERO for trying this!!! THANK YOU FOR YOUR COURAGE!!
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Old October 15, 2014, 07:16   #15
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Me too please!

Add me to the buyers list! A suggestion - for your next project if you wanted to do a rear bipod hanger I think you could sell a lot. I found welding ears to the gas block for the front works fine but making a good looking hanger isn't easy (at least for me!). Actually if anyone out there has any ideas on that I'd be grateful.
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Just working on how to measure and draw out the scallop under the slide part of the sight without unriveting it from the base. What does a rear bipod look like?
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Old October 19, 2014, 19:13   #17
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Sorry, you misunderstood me. Not a 'Rear Bipod' but the 'rear' hanger for a bipod. It is barrel mounted just in front of the breech and is what the bipod legs lock into. In an original L2A1 it is a sheet metal part fitted on a flat in the barrel. I am fitting out an L1A1 as an A2 so the barrel isn't as heavy as the original and I think a lot of people would also do this if the bipod hanger parts were available.
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so far here is what I have

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Old October 21, 2014, 07:00   #19
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Nice work. Congrats.

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Old October 21, 2014, 07:09   #20
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That is a lot of parts.
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10 in all. Bottom right hand is a sheet metal part and I am gonna need some serious consultation with my old boss about how to go about making that. Part right next to that has that internal rectangular opening that looks like it was made on a custom broach. I am hoping I will be able to get a custom keyseat cutter. More consultation. Then the part that gets brazed to the top cover and I am thinkin, how do I reproduce that manually ( CNC is still a hybrid Boat anchor and slot machine)?
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Old October 21, 2014, 19:46   #22
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Let me say this again..... "Do you realize how hard these are to get?". MM If people think that on Wednesday next week, Monday January 12, 2017, or October 07, 2018 they will see one for sale, priced at $69.99, SORRY they just should not plan on it!! This may be their only chance to get one!!! I know what I paid and would pay for the next I see! How many out there are willing to do the same for the L2 for their collection. If enough jump on the wagon for this, I will loan my gas block again as a test sample for some sort of manufacture. Again the only of its kind that I have bumped into. One of my friends also has a toilet plunger that he would like copied. Same thing with my NOS barrel. To me, and a few others around here this is a PRICELESS chance!!! You are a HERO for trying this!!! THANK YOU FOR YOUR COURAGE!!
Flossymac,

Thanks for your work. I sold both my 2 L2a1's and two C2A1's to pay for my daughter's tutoring and college tuition and I would love to eventually have another L2A1. If it includes a new US made gas block, barrel and rear sight that would even be better.
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If you are willing to have the gas block and bipod hanger copied by a machinist I'd be on board for a set. I have an L1A1 that I have the bipod for, like everyone else, the rest is unobtanium.

Better still, if there was a barrel maker that would copy the whole L2 set...
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If you are willing to have the gas block and bipod hanger copied by a machinist
Better still, if there was a barrel maker that would copy the whole L2 set...
The cost is in the CAD programming. Barrels are cheap and so are gas blocks. Gas blocks would sell for ~$50. Having someone do the Drawings/CAD files would have to be amortized over the number of parts.
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First gas block $3000
Two @ $1500
Ten $300
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did this go anywhere?
did you get any CAD or code for the gas block?
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we'll see. Need to find a way to have that sheet metal spring made.
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I still have my L2 top cover waiting on the sight parts!
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Sometime way back when, I sent my top covers to MM for him to make his measurements and to cogitate on. As time flowed by, I had swaped out computers in my then current shop and brought most if not all of my forum time to an abrupt end. Felt too my customers in that shop needed more of my dedication too. All my kits were packed away in deep storage and I started to collect and sell vintage rifle sights and bolt action parts in my spare time. Only for sanitys sake if nothing else.

One day a medium flat rate box showed up and immediately I recognized who it was from, MM. Never had a doubt. Well for more than a year that sealed box kicked around on the floor under my chair with a couple of others. I knew or thought I knew what it contained. Finally lost a lock part and had start digging and cleaning as I went along. A few days later, I started to open all those sealed boxes.

Got to the one from MM. One top cover popped out, then the second. Finally a simple ziplock full of samples of his fine work. My God what a SUPRISE!!!!! I was so impressed, I hung the bag and all from a nail on the counter and over time would just look in awe. Not many people give me anything much less so much and with such good will.

So here we have MM. A MAN that I have never met. Bought stuff from only on a single occasion prior. Never talked to on the phone. Have no more idea what he looks like than he has me. And in plus, in the anonymous world of the internet. Who has shown extreme honesty, dignity, character fitting of only the finest Americans!

MM is the Man that the founding fathers wanted us to be. A Man who in all things holds himself to a higher standard. The Man that we accept to go into harms way in order to protect his rights as an American. The One we should all try to emulate. The One our kids should be proud to know as their dads friend.

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I'd definitely be on board with having a rear sight made to fit to a top cover. Also would be in for a GB w/ bipod hanger...consider this a commit, provided the price is reasonable (due to taker volume, that is)
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Old March 31, 2018, 22:06   #33
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I'd be up for a tangent sight at a reasonable price, as I'm already accumulating parts for an L2A1 replica.
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