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Old June 11, 2018, 09:45   #1
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Intergenerational conflict over gun control

I found this short article to be interesting about the intergenerational conflict that has been sparked by David Hogg and his cronies. I'm sure I do not agree with this author and her endorsement of "common sense gun laws", but she makes some really good points about Hogg's strategy of pitting one generation against another.

http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/...ntergener.html
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Old June 11, 2018, 10:21   #2
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Well, my son and his cronies see Hogg as a joke. He said he doesn't represent his generation but the older generation of Hillary. He said that there is information out there (he holds up his phone) that say otherwise about Hogg and his generation reads that.
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Old June 11, 2018, 13:13   #3
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Communists love guns, muslims love guns, BLM loves guns, FBI loves guns, Cartels love guns, terrorists love guns, law abiding Americans love guns.

Hand a man a gun and watch his eyes sparkle, (unless he is a blower).
People join the armed services to shoot guns and break things.

The more sinister a gun appears, the better we like it.

"Peace" is just the time between wars.

"Deus ex machina."
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Kids generally hate Hogg. There's getting to be blowback to his movement as youngsters tend not to accept anyone claiming they represent everyone else's views.

Pay close attention to these events
Do you actually see many high schoolers ?
nope...mostly young adult SJW anti Trumper types
they go after the NRA because Trump is seen as a NRA President

Elementry schoolers ?
That's not them, that's the teachers
they could get their charges to march for a national Hitler day

in short, it's all more Trump derangement syndrome
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Old June 11, 2018, 15:39   #5
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There may be hope yet:

Millennials Are No More Liberal On Gun Control Than Elders, Polls Show
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Old June 11, 2018, 15:58   #6
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Hope for them maybe. Personally I no longer give a crap I've got more guns/ammo etc than my kids can ever shoot in their lifetime. They can do what they will with the world, it will be theirs soon enough.
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Well, my son and his cronies see Hogg as a joke. He said he doesn't represent his generation but the older generation of Hillary. He said that there is information out there (he holds up his phone) that say otherwise about Hogg and his generation reads that.
indeed.

gen x, millennials, and gen z are savvy and sharp enough to understand what guns are for, and the basics of how they work, and more importantly why guns work.

they also understand that cops armed with guns are the number one existential threat, and that threat is managed by and for the boomer vampires, not the young that are intended to be prey.

gen z knows they are totally fukked, and they know exactly who fukked them.

this country is awash in guns, gen z will inherit the mess the GGers and their boomer shits made for them to clean up.

payback is coming.
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indeed.

gen x, millennials, and gen z are savvy and sharp enough to understand what guns are for, and the basics of how they work, and more importantly why guns work.

they also understand that cops armed with guns are the number one existential threat, and that threat is managed by and for the boomer vampires, not the young that are intended to be prey.

gen z knows they are totally fukked, and they know exactly who fukked them.

this country is awash in guns, gen z will inherit the mess the GGers and their boomer shits made for them to clean up.

payback is coming.
Oh, I hope you're right but I can't see it from where I'm sitting. I acquired an M1 from the CMP every time a new niece/nephew was born with the idea of giving it to him/her some day when they turned 21. I gotta tell ya with one single exception there ain't a one of 'em I'd trust with a real rifle never mind give an M1 to. And the one exception already has one in the works.
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I am not as optimistic as some. The bulk of the population lies in urban/suburban areas. Along with the mass of people comes political and economic power. In these city wonderlands substantial numbers of residents don't own a gun, never shot a gun, maybe never touched a gun and may view any firearm as the 'source' of urban crime and mass murder. As an 'added bonus' hunting has drastically declined in recent decades, another reason not to be interested in guns. For this large non gun demographic 'sensible gun control' does not effect or inconvenience them so it's OK for their politicians to do something about 'gun safety'. The fact that our sons and daughters were exposed to firearms about the time they could walk means nothing.
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What I want to know is at the Publix grocery store someone didn't call "clean up on isle 13?" Bucket of soapy water would have cleaned it up in a jiffy. Clearly a danger. Some old folks could have come in and tripped over them breaking a hip or worse. File a civil lawsuit against the parents for loss of income.
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I am not as optimistic as some. The bulk of the population lies in urban/suburban areas. Along with the mass of people comes political and economic power. In these city wonderlands substantial numbers of residents don't own a gun, never shot a gun, maybe never touched a gun and may view any firearm as the 'source' of urban crime and mass murder. As an 'added bonus' hunting has drastically declined in recent decades, another reason not to be interested in guns. For this large non gun demographic 'sensible gun control' does not effect or inconvenience them so it's OK for their politicians to do something about 'gun safety'. The fact that our sons and daughters were exposed to firearms about the time they could walk means nothing.
the reality is that urbanites are walking talking weapons of mass destruction in waiting.

three weeks into any major destabilization/collapse, they are going to eat each other.
there is no unclarity on that point.

if you were paying attention, then you would understand that the number one demographic market for firearms now by far is pocket pistols for urban females, not old dudes with their cold war battle rifle relics.
that demo change is from the younger half of the bell curve almost exclusively, and more females than males now (gen x, mells, and soon to be dominated by gen z),
of that demo, young black chicks are number one growing demo, not whitey.
this shift has been in place for over a decade now, and will continue from here on out.

furthermore, milsim/airsoft sales and marketing now dwarfs firearms sales, and will continue to be the market leader from here on out in the future.
kids today that have all been raised by playing video games and airsoft/paintball are highly capable of running any gun available to them given a little familiarization -- and there is no shortage of guns available to them,
gen x, mells, and gen z have all literally grown up on first person shooter video games aka milisim trainers with expected results: they know more than enough basics to get shit done if they choose to, or if they run out of reasons not to.
and they are also savvy enough to see now that no one is going to show up and save the victims/volunteers in time for it to matter.

the thing about that situation is, these gamer kiddies are for the most part extremely fast on the trigger, hyper aggressive, and most importantly they are mentally quick to adapt to changing situations, to figure out on the fly what works and what will not work.
they are not "perfect soldiers", but they are certainly more than able to be extremely dangerous in short, decisive bursts, if they choose to be.
what all that means is when they decide to get shit done, then there is no stopping them, and they know it.

the kiddie mass killers in FL and TX clearly demonstrate that beyond any doubt, these were planned, thought out, decisive assault/overruns, not done on mere impulse or casual whim.
kids today know exactly how to get ahold of guns and ammo, know exactly how to use them, and know how exploit gun free zones to use available firearms and improvised devices to disproportionate lethal effect.
even shitty guns and devices are more than adequate to get the job done.
kiddie mass killers have no fear of anyone stopping them because there is nothing for them to fear, and they know it.

the time of the silverback male is already gone, you just haven't figured that out yet.

gen z will figure it out, because they have no other choice left, thanks to the boomers that fukked them over.

and who is to blame?
the kids did not make this mess, the so-called "responsible adults" did.
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