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Old April 21, 2004, 11:17   #1
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Handguard rattle (and a headspace question)

What can be done to tighten up the fit of the handguards to stop them from rattling? The HG retaining ring has a bit of play on the barrel, so I'm rattling like a mariachi band. Quick question: do I HAVE to remove the extractor when using a headspace gauge, and if so, why? Thanks guys.
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Old April 21, 2004, 11:49   #2
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sledge hammer should fix the rattling, and i haven't bothered to remove the extractor, lately, but then, i headspace with the two thickness of scotch tape and portugese method. some gauges may not be cut like the cartridge rim, and the extractor may be in the way if you use the real thing. be sure to remove the firing pin, and drop the bolt out of the carrier so that you can feel the lockup with your two thumbs pressure on the 13* ramp, and the seating when she drops into place.
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Old April 21, 2004, 12:19   #3
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You should remove the extractor. The groove in the headspace gage is not like a cartridge. It may be wider, shallower, narrower, whatever. This could push the extractor into the side of the receiver and cause a false reading.

There is the right way to do this and the wrong way. Why not just do it the right way?

You may as well learn how to get the extractor out, it's a skill you need to know. I drove a nail through a block of wood so it sticks out about 1/4". I filed the stub down until it fit tight in the extractor hole. I put the block in the vise and it takes me about 3 seconds flat to get the extractor out. 5 seconds to put it back in. I do lay a shop rag over the bolt when I do this to catch any flying parts but I haven't launch anything in awhile.
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Old April 21, 2004, 13:35   #4
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Sledgehammer?? Hammer what and how? I was thinking more along the lines of a high temp silicone or something like that.
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Old April 21, 2004, 14:54   #5
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Re: Handguard rattle (and a headspace question)

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What can be done to tighten up the fit of the handguards to stop them from rattling?
I assume you are talking about steel handguards. You can bend the tab that fits into the retaining ring just a smidge with pliers or a vise. I have used a pair of pliers and two scraps of leather to pad the tabs and just bent the tab a bit on both left and right guards. Trial and error will dictate how much to bend them. Once they fit the retainer snugly, they will not rattle when tightened up with the handguard screw.

If you are talking about fiberglass or plastic handguards, simply apply some layers of tape to the outside of the tab, close enough to the edge that it won't be seen when they are installed.
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Old April 21, 2004, 20:13   #6
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Re: Handguard rattle (and a headspace question)

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What can be done to tighten up the fit of the handguards to stop them from rattling?
As mentioned above, tape works, but this is a high heat area and the adhesive will get smeary depending on the tape used. I used black electrical tape and it became a mess over time. Now I use some small squares cut from an old T-shirt - wrap the HG lips and stuff it in the ring. If you're careful, no fabric should be poking out.
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Old April 21, 2004, 21:07   #7
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On plastic handguards I use PC7 epoxy. Put a couple of pea sized beads on the handguards. After the epoxy has cured file and sand it until you have the fit you want. It doesn't take much and the ring hides the epoxy.
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Epoxy on handguard

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Sledgehammer?? Hammer what and how? I was thinking more along the lines of a high temp silicone or something like that.
Epoxy is probably good for 600 deg. For short periods.

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Old September 04, 2012, 14:12   #9
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Holy thread resurrection, Batman! Eight (yes, 8) years has to be some kind of internet record. How the hell did you even find this thread?? Not trying to bust your balls (well, maybe just a little bit), but did you ever stop to consider whether this particular issue might have been figured out, oh, maybe almost a decade ago...?
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Old September 05, 2012, 09:50   #10
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Sorry to kick a dead horse....

I had considered the possibility of this issue having been resovled, perhaps years ago, but I was not able to confirm using the search function.

I found this thread the same way most folks conduct internet searches. In this case, It was fairly easy.....Google + rattle + hand-guards. Easy.

Seriously though...what brought me to this particular thread was a general curiosity of how FAL handguards hold up over time.


BTW, balls are meant to bounce.

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Old September 05, 2012, 14:21   #11
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I had considered the possibility of this issue having been resovled, perhaps years ago, but I was not able to confirm using the search function.
The issue was resolved over seven years ago when I sold it.
But thanks for the trip down memory lane!
I think that kit and receiver together cost less than $400.
Good luck trying to do that these days...
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Squeeze the handguard ring in just a bit..
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Old September 06, 2012, 10:12   #13
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Buy an additional FAL that doesn't suffer this problem, shoot the one that has no rattle, and use the rattly one for artwork/ backup. Problem solved, and you now have two FALs.
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Ditch the metal HGs - you'll solve several problems at once
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