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Old August 13, 2017, 09:42   #51
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Looks like it's going to be a wet slog today.
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Old August 13, 2017, 10:42   #52
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Looks like it's going to be a wet slog today.
Nice! I did 3.66 miles before breakfast with 20lbs on. Sunny and 72 here -
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Old August 13, 2017, 12:11   #53
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It rained to whole time.

David didn't show.

So i was able to get after it.

With 50lbs. of gear, i was able to walk nearly 2 minutes faster per mile.





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Old August 13, 2017, 17:09   #55
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Old August 13, 2017, 20:44   #56
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I had to move some MOLLE around on my Run N Gun rig to make the change from FAL/G41 to AR10/G17 tonight, and I realized I have one less G18 mag than I thought I did. So I'll be ordering a G18 mag this week to finish this set out. A quick run around the farm and some rifle dry fire in various positions made a good basic gear test, but it needs more before I'm comfortable with it.

How is everyone carrying the giant loads of ammo required for this match? I'm going with 4x25rd AR10 mags, 3x33rd G18 mags, and a 21rd G17 mag in the pistol for a total loadout of 100 rifle and 120 pistol.
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To make the weight.

I'll be using a Crye Precision AVS plate carrier with a Haley strategic chest rig and battle belt.

Rifle, FAL: 5x20rd. loaded to 18. Plus 20 loose.

Total: 110

Pistol, FNX-45: 6x15rd. Plus 25 loose.

Total: 115

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DSA FAL Carbine with ACOG
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4 20rd Moses Mags = 80 rifle
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Old August 14, 2017, 10:35   #59
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Shoot carefully, young paduwan - you don't have much to spare! Help me remember and I'll bring you a spare Moses mag I'm not going to use. I found it last night and it had your name on it.
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Shoot carefully, young paduwan - you don't have much to spare! Help me remember and I'll bring you a spare Moses mag I'm not going to use. I found it last night and it had your name on it.
Thank you! I might just use the 5th Mag to up the rifle round count!
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Excellent conditions for tonight's run: 3.66 miles in the pouring rain (no weight) at an 8.8 min/mi avg pace and an 88%HR.

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Doing awesome! So this means you are gonna switch from race-class to Combat-Class with Mike and me, right? You are already going ar10 and all so you might as well man up some, at least!
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Well crap. That was supposed to be a picture of me, soaked to the bone and standing in the pouring rain. But looking at it now it just looks like I'm standing there showing off my nipples.

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Doing awesome! So this means you are gonna switch from race-class to Combat-Class with Mike and me, right? You are already going ar10 and all so you might as well man up some, at least!
Hell no - it'd make too much sense to carry a heavy rifle in a class I can compete evenly in! I'm going to carry a giant .308 and go up against all the light and quick f$&kers out there just to make sure they work for that win. I'm taking myself out of the official results again for the same reasons as last time (but even moreso this time), but they'll know I was right on their ass the whole time.

Overall trophy for each class is going to be something pretty damn special that whoever wins it will treasure forever though. Not just another plaque...
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...I'm going to carry a giant .308...
I am sure that ar9.5 will look "huge" in your little hands!

...the boyz at arfCOM will be so proud!
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Well crap. That was supposed to be a picture of me, soaked to the bone and standing in the pouring rain. But looking at it now it just looks like I'm standing there showing off my nipples.

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Speak of the devil! I was just texting with the Halfling and telling him to stop being a p@ssy and bump up to Combat Class with the rest of us real men (even though he is still gonna run an AR10 iffin' he makes the leap). Happen to mention that if our Shield Maiden, B17 was gonna be there, she sure as hell would be running in Combat Class and would probably smoke my A$$ on the run just like she did in Okie last month!

No pressure Halfling,...well maybe a little
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Speak of the devil! I was just texting with the Halfling and telling him to stop being a p@ssy and bump up to Combat Class with the rest of us real men (even though he is still gonna run an AR10 iffin' he makes the leap). Happen to mention that if our Shield Maiden, B17 was gonna be there, she sure as hell would be running in Combat Class and would probably smoke my A$$ on the run just like she did in Okie last month!

No pressure Halfling,...well maybe a little
I had planned on running my tried and true 5.56 Recce setup for many reasons. Now I'm realizing that the fal should probably get at it, in such company and all.
Either way, my kit is not gonna make weight for combat class with me at 215. Can I run a ruck with a sandbag?
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I had planned on running my tried and true 5.56 Recce setup for many reasons. Now I'm realizing that the fal should probably get at it, in such company and all.
Either way, my kit is not gonna make weight for combat class with me at 215. Can I run a ruck with a sandbag?
You can carry anything you want to make weight if you are just that crazy/determined to go Combat Class. A full 50% of the competitors registered so far are going Combat. Very impressive!
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I am good on Moses Mags guys. Thank you both for the offers though. Now both of you make sure you figure out what you need to do and step up to run Combat Class with Mike and me!

PLEASE!!!! Before B17 posts the entire Shia LaBarf video again!!!

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I'm in on combat class, only like 53lbs got me. Why would I want to do anything the easy way?
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Doing awesome! So this means you are gonna switch from race-class to Combat-Class with Mike and me, right? You are already going ar10 and all so you might as well man up some, at least!

I know Matt has this patch.

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Does it need to be revoked?
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I'm in on combat class, only like 53lbs got me. Why would I want to do anything the easy way?
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Does it need to be revoked?
We might have to reissue that one in pink!
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We might have to reissue that one in pink!
We could issue this one.

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Nailed it!!!! And he will have to wear it start to finish!!! Especially when he is standing on his chair.

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Thinking of starting a GoFundme for the Halfling so we can get his new "race-gun" cerakoted for him!

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Alright - evidently I'm enough of a weak-minded fool that I just had to load up all my mags and weigh in to see where I stood. Current load is 25 lbs, which is 15% of my bodyweight. I'll wear a snowflake patch before I add another 16 lbs just to make you guys happy.

I did have to point out to Nuttz that I carried 40lbs (25% of my bodyweight back then) on my very first 10K I did back in 2015 while all you bastidges were on the couch - so I've got nothing left to prove. Y'all have fun in Combat Class - I'm going to RUN!!!
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...and you only dropped a pound of weight (39lbs) in 2016, so we know you can do it for close to 8 miles!



Doesn't explain the this new found wuss-factor for a measly 3.5 miles?! Must be something about the fumes from cleaning said "race-gun"!!!
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... for a measly 3.5 miles?! Must be something about the fumes from cleaning said "race-gun"!!!
3.2 miles this time - we cut a little length from the course and added another hill. And I haven't cleaned the AR10 yet - 700rds and still going strong! I'm probably going to chicken out and clean it before this match though. Maybe I can cut another pound off my weight if I clean all the carbon off of it.
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NOTICE: All "Race Class" shooters will utilize the below illustrated steel targets on respective stages that require hits on steel. "Race Class" shooters may engage said targets with either their Primary/Secondary weapons or they may engage targets with strong politically correct language protesting the lack of "Caffe-Latte P@ssy-boy" drinks at the lodge:

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I am on a different path at the moment, my friend - but we are all climbing the same awesome mountain.









And I'll beat your heavy ass to the top.
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...I am on a different path at the moment, my friend - but we are all climbing the same awesome mountain.

...And I'll beat your heavy ass to the top...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!


...put on the gear and PROVE IT!
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It's been a long time since we had some good smack talk here. Where are rowjimmy and brunop to join in???
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It's been a long time since we had some good smack talk here. Where are rowjimmy and brunop to join in???
On their couches saying "Matt really should man the F@ck up and stop being such a D@mn P@ssy!"...

...look, I found his rig for September!



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Things you'll experience that aren't at most matches:

Incoming "artillery strikes"
Machinegun fire WHILE you are trying to focus on shooting
Calling in your own JDAM strike
Shooting while under attack (I'll let this one be a surprise!)
Experiencing the "fog of war" and trying to identify friend and foe
Rescuing multiple casualties
Carrying all your gear for 5k while shooting and overcoming obstacles

And of course all of the outrageous things that are only "normal" to Rockcastle:
Shooting in the complete darkness of a cave
Shooting from/around a vehicle
Shooting and reloading on the move and from behind cover

There are still some slots open - register NOW at: https://practiscore.com/legion-9-11-...n-gun/register

And if you have absolutely no interest in carrying 20-50lbs over a 5k running course, but still want to experience the awesomeness of the shooting stages and support the 5th Group Special Forces Association, come on out to the Sunday 2-gun match where you can do exactly that. Even better, shoot BOTH matches back to back.

You know you'll want another shot at these stages after shooting them Saturday, so you might as well sign up for Sunday too so you can try them fresh again! Here's the link for the Sunday match: https://practiscore.com/legion-9-11-...match/register
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5th Group had a good week this week - picked up Spikes Tactical as a match sponsor and Trijicon as a stage sponsor. Just the first of many more to come, I'm sure!
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I just finished my 4th run for the week - all on the same 3.66 mile hilly course. M/W/F were with no weight and I averaged 9.0 min/mi for all three days. Today was with a 25lb vest and belt (my full Run N Gun weight), and 10.9 min/mi was the best I could do.

I'm thinking touring and tasting at the George Dickel Tennessee Whisky Distillery followed by a big lunch at Route 55 BBQ may not have been the best pre-workout routine. :-)
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People always have questions about scoring. I admit this can be confusing - especially since every Run N Gun is a little different. Scoring for THIS match reflects the priorities of the 5th Special Forces Group, so while it is pretty similar to what we did here in March there are a few differences.

First, the similarities:

Your total score is made up of 50% run time and 50% shoot time, so you have to both run fast and shoot well to score well overall. To break this down further - the fastest runner overall will get 500 points. Each runner below that will get a percentage of 500 points based on how much slower than that fastest runner they are. The fastest shooter at Stage 1 will get 100 points, and every shooter below that will get a percentage of those 100 points based on how much slower than the fastest shooter they are. And so on for all five stages. Since there are 5 stages, there are 500 possible points for shooting. So theoretically - if someone was the fastest runner and won each and every shooting stage they'd get 1,000 points and win the match. That has yet to EVER happen, so the actual match winner is always someone who balances shooting well with running fast - which is as it should be.

Now, the differences (from March):

For each target you Fail To Neutralize (FTN) as per the stage description, we will add 10 seconds to your shoot time for that stage. For each "No Shoot" you hit (once or multiple times), 10 seconds will be added to your shoot time for that stage. And since 5th Group never quits - neither can you. You have to keep shooting until you've either hit all the targets or your 3 minutes are up. You CANNOT just quit early and "take the penalty." The only exception to this is if you THINK you hit all the targets, but didn't. For example: you shoot 5 times at a paper pistol target, think you hit it all 5 times, and move on - but when it's scored they only find 4 hits. You'd have 10 seconds added to your shoot time as an FTN penalty for that stage.

So even if you do not finish the shooting stage, you will still get some points based on how many targets you DID hit (unlilke in March).

And two Match DQ penalties (you get a zero score for the match and get sent home early) that may be new to some:

1. If you get caught with a loaded rifle ANYWHERE but immediately after you are given the "fire" command or the start buzzer goes off
2. If you drop a loaded pistol ANYWHERE in the course

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