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I would buy one 31 4.44%
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Old February 28, 2011, 21:14   #501
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Drop yer OD in the tall grass that yer hiding in and..... well you get it....
Did it w/ a flashlight that I was gonna need to get back to the truck w/ after the sun went down...Was dusk.....Not a good thing....Made me appreciate the lanyard theory.....That said.....OD is sooo the new!
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everyone needs at least one black one, it has to match your wife/girlfriends little black dress...
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Old March 01, 2011, 23:59   #504
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As the fashon mavens write all the time, black goes with anything. End the end, I'll probably be getting a bunch of black, OD, and whatever the next color is, just to stay "fashionable".
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Old March 02, 2011, 01:08   #505
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as a green whore i will take mine in OD
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Well considering all the different OD color variations out there black would be my choice and a quick shot of OD that I shot my gun with would match it right up.
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Old March 03, 2011, 03:52   #507
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OK so I am basically not getting flat dark earth/tan at all.

So I assume it is safe to say Majority want Black and OD green.
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OK so I am basically not getting flat dark earth/tan at all.

So I assume it is safe to say Majority want Black and OD green.
YES, BLACK, OD green...





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You could probably talk me into 5 black 20 rounders.
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tbh, with a black base, OD is no more than a rattle-can away. :P

Use a final-wipe or wax & grease remover or even lighter fluid to wipe the surface clean of any release agents the molding company used, then scuff with a red scotch-brite to dull the surface (you're not sanding smooth, you're scuffing for texture to hold the paint), then bomb-can with some OD Krylon from Wal-Mart!

If you wanna get fancy, take your Moses Mags to a body-shop and they can just blast them with some etch primer (which is usually OD green), which uses an acid base that eats into the material ever so slightly, to guarantee a good hold.


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Old March 05, 2011, 02:28   #513
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ME too!!!! "The waiting is the hardest part"

I want to get everything just like I want it, I am being anal about every detail!!!!!

We are real close but it's still gonna take some time to get the final product finished just like I want it.

We are finalizing the changes to the core of the mold and hopefully they will be cutting steel this coming week.

Here is another video of the moses mag in an Argie FAL.

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Tell them to hurry up! Shooting weather is getting close!!!


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Old March 15, 2011, 14:30   #515
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Its been awesome to see this project progress. The test seemed like it was flawless; Moses, were there any problems during the test you would share?
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Thanks it has been an interesting time going through this whole process.

The mag ran flawless the day I filmed these video's and this was the first time I ever shot the moses mag so although I thought it would work fine from the numerous hand cycling's I had done I wasn't sure that it would be 100% when I actually fired it in the guns. I was very pleased!!!

While there are a few things I am addressing with the mag it would actually work as is.

I ran a the mag a few more times last week when I was sighting in for my Rifle match and again it ran flawlessly.

To the question asked earlier, I am not sure how much the mag weighs as I do not have a scale to measure the weight.
My reloading scale doesn't go high enough, I need to measure one though to find out!!! They are significantly lighter than a steel mag though.
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Guys, moses brought a prototype to his match last weekend along with one of the guys from the molder. It was sweet. We test fit it in various FALs at the match and it went right in. The material seems to be very tough and durable. Even with all of the test fitting done, there were no wear marks at all. The ergonomics are awesome, felt really go in the hand. No slippage at all with the ribs and the surface texture. A really nice feature is the ease of field stripping it for cleaning. The base pad provides a substantial surface to grab on to when pulling them from a mag pouch (I like base pads up in the pouch). And they seem to work equally well in Inch FALs along with the metrics. The followers appear to be anti-tilt and slide easily up and down in the body. Unfortunately, the followers won't fit into metal mag bodies, but maybe the design can be modified slightly for another 922 part for those of us that have a ton of metal mags.

I spoke with the molder guy about its basic construction and found out the body is a one piece molding. Not two halves glued together, so no seam to fail. These are quality mags and I have already decided to up the number I'll purchase. Just counting down the days.
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Old March 16, 2011, 22:23   #518
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Mike, yes these will work in Inch guns too.
Yes the body is a one piece design.
The polymer is very tough, had a lab analyze a Magpul Pmag and find out it's composition and that is the same polymer we are using.

The follower is an anti tilt follower, and I am in the works of designing an anti tilt follower that will fit in standard steel FAL mags so people can have an anti tilt follower that will help with the 922r BS.
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Great news! I'm ready for a boxful of these.
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I too have been following this thread. Great work Moses. I will be purchasing some OD Green ones once they are on the market.
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Not sure on the exact date.
Guessing I would think I will have the updated prototype in 2 to 3 weeks and then I'll test it (at least another week of hard testing, I have already tested the first batch and it has passed all the wear and strength tests so I just need to make sure none of the changes made effected anything) , if I approve it then the mold will have the final logo's and other info engraved in it, I am guessing at least a week on that, but it could be less. Then a week for them to shoot/make the parts.

So I am thinking if all goes well 6 weeks, if all goes extremely well 4 1/2 to 5 weeks. But this is purely speculation on my part.
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Curious why and what updates are being made?
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In the past couple weeks I made a dozen and shipped 8 prototypes of this simple little part.
For 30 years I have had mechanical engineers and packaging people make drawings of my electrical designs. It looks so easy, but getting the documentation to the point that someone else can make it, turns out to be a lot of work and takes a lot of time.
And then there is the correspondence with customers, and the shipping.
None of it is complicated, it just a big hassle, like baby sitting.

What does it all mean?
Documentation for mass production is not fast or easy.
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Pretty cool. May have to check a mag out or 10
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Minor dimension changes, like moving the front beak location by .030, changing the mag catch location tab by .015, adding two small channels in the front mag wall to allow for longer than spec bullets to feed in the mag.
Mag would have worked without these changes but this should make it reliable in slightly out of spec receivers and/or out of spec mag catches too.

The main change that had to be made was the core of the mold was undersized and had to be fixed to allow the mag to hold all 20 rounds without having to be modified by hand, this was an error that was made when the core was machined, the dimension was just incorrect, the mold company wasn't sure how they missed the dimensions but they did so they are making a new correct size core.
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Minor dimension changes, like moving the front beak location by .030, changing the mag catch location tab by .015, adding two small channels in the front mag wall to allow for longer than spec bullets to feed in the mag.
Mag would have worked without these changes but this should make it reliable in slightly out of spec receivers and/or out of spec mag catches too.

The main change that had to be made was the core of the mold was undersized and had to be fixed to allow the mag to hold all 20 rounds without having to be modified by hand, this was an error that was made when the core was machined, the dimension was just incorrect, the mold company wasn't sure how they missed the dimensions but they did so they are making a new correct size core.
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This thread gets better everytime i check it out. I'm gonna have to start scrapin' some change together 'cause i'll be needin' some Moses Mags
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How are the external dimensions compared to standard FAL mags? Will they fit in standard 20-rd .308 pouches (e.g. the G3 pouches)?

Would you be willing to post a drawing with external dimensions? I'm working on making a buttstock pouch with measurements from my standard mags, and I'd like to make sure these would fit too.
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How are the external dimensions compared to standard FAL mags? Will they fit in standard 20-rd .308 pouches (e.g. the G3 pouches)?

Would you be willing to post a drawing with external dimensions? I'm working on making a buttstock pouch with measurements from my standard mags, and I'd like to make sure these would fit too.
From what I have seen of them, they will fit in a standard 7.62 mag pouch. Moses told me that he tried them in the Canandian pouches and they fit with no problem and allowed the flap to be shut. The Canadian pouches I have are tighter than the US GI M-14 mags to give a a little perspective. Obviously the external specs have to be the same as a metal FAL mag since they have to fit into all of the mag wells. So you should be good to go making one using a FAL mag as guidance. The overall length is slightly longer than a FAL mag - about a quarter inch (using the Mk1 precision eyeball). The base pad is similar in shape to the inch mag floor plate. It is just slightly wider than an inch floor plate but much thicker. This gives you something substantial to grab onto when withdrawing the mag from the pouch, especially if your pouches don't have the tug straps.
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In the past couple weeks I made a dozen and shipped 8 prototypes of this simple little part.
So, is that a kaboom-a-meter???
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Also: Do you want it done fast, or do you want it done right?
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From what I have seen of them, they will fit in a standard 7.62 mag pouch.
Good to hear.

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Obviously the external specs have to be the same as a metal FAL mag since they have to fit into all of the mag wells.
That only applies to the part that has to fit into the mag well...

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So you should be good to go making one using a FAL mag as guidance. The overall length is slightly longer than a FAL mag - about a quarter inch (using the Mk1 precision eyeball). The base pad is similar in shape to the inch mag floor plate. It is just slightly wider than an inch floor plate but much thicker. This gives you something substantial to grab onto when withdrawing the mag from the pouch, especially if your pouches don't have the tug straps.
Not to be snarky, but... "it's the same but slightly longer" is why I was hoping for actual dimensions.

It's a horizontal pouch so it's more sensitive to the height of the mag and the size of the base. I'll make my pattern a quarter-inch "taller". The dimensions for the lip around the base would be most welcome, as that part won't be sticking out the top of the pouch and would have to fit without binding up.
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I would like a 30+ round mag but I like what your doing...

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John, sorry forgot to give you dimensions. I'll measure now and report back in a few.

Here ya go, let me know if you need anything else.

It's 6.300" from top to bottom at the rear
It's 5.800" from top to bottom at the front
Floor plate is 1.4" wide and 3.440" long
Mag body is 1.100 at it's widest and 3.165" front to back.
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And for us californians why not just rivet the magazine to 10 rounds or send as parts kit so we can rivet them.
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Can one of you Californians send me a link to where it says it's legal to send disassembled mag components to California?

Thanks!!!!
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Old March 22, 2011, 19:04   #541
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Yessir here ya go http://gunwiki.net/Gunwiki/LegalCaliforniaMagazines its under the observations of ca magazine laws. If u want more links let me know I would post more but I'm on my phone thanks..
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Can one of you Californians send me a link to where it says it's legal to send disassembled mag components to California?

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Refer to question no. 3.

http://www.hoffmang.com/firearms/DOJ...2005-11-10.pdf

There are several out of state vendors that currently offer magazine parts kits for sale to California (i.e., complete disassembled magazines) along with many, many in-state vendors.

Essentially, it is legal as long as the intent of the buyer is to repair or otherwise replace parts on a existing hi-cap magazine or to use the parts to manufacture a magazine with a capacity of 10 rounds or less.

There are Californians with permits, though, for hi-cap mags in which case most or all of the restrictions do not apply.
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The hoffman link was the one I was looking for thanks!
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still looking forward to these things!

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Moses, you gonna' bring what you have in hand to Stimpy's match for us to ooh and ahh over even if the production models ain't in hand yet? I know that would go over big time.

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Yes I will definitely bringing what ever I have, hopefully I will have some for prizes!!!!

Just depends on how fast the mold company is on the revisions I am having them do on the molds.
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I'll be in for a few 20rnd'ers in black, plus the one in our trade.

Your wrench went out on Saturday so you should be getting it soon. Put in some extra's too. I figured you'd get good use out of them.
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In the past couple weeks I made a dozen and shipped 8 prototypes of this simple little part.
For 30 years I have had mechanical engineers and packaging people make drawings of my electrical designs. It looks so easy, but getting the documentation to the point that someone else can make it, turns out to be a lot of work and takes a lot of time.
And then there is the correspondence with customers, and the shipping.
None of it is complicated, it just a big hassle, like baby sitting.

What does it all mean?
Documentation for mass production is not fast or easy.
That sure looks like a shell holder for a Co-Ax press.

After that, can't wait for the mags to be ready.
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Yes I will definitely bringing what ever I have, hopefully I will have some for prizes!!!!

Just depends on how fast the mold company is on the revisions I am having them do on the molds.
Any thoughts on spreading the wealth to Files members at first?
Not sure how many you are making at first... so say a couple each
to guys here to play with first??

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I plan on doing at least 2000 the first run so should have plenty for everyone.
I will be selling them here first so Falfile members will have first shot at them.
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