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Old December 03, 2017, 20:13   #1
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time to cut back on the firewater there stud
Wut?
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making knives from discarded tools becomes a form of art

this guy seems to be working from a clean slate,

doesn't look too difficult to replicate

you just need to be set up for the job


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doesn't look too difficult...
That's because you aren't looking closely enough.
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That's because you aren't looking closely enough.

use my entire statement if you want the proper context,
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doesn't look too difficult to replicate

you just need to be set up for the job
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doesn't look too difficult to replicate
Agreed. pretty straight-forward assuming the metal is agreeable.


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you just need to be set up for the job
You just need a heat source and a hammer, right?
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Old December 07, 2017, 16:56   #15
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Agreed. pretty straight-forward assuming the metal is agreeable.

thats a big assumption, a leap of faith before starting

You just need a heat source and a hammer, right?

not quite ....... proper tooling will make a big difference

if you do not have a decent anvil it will take considerably more effort to pound out the steel and form it the way you wish

looks like he has several large belt grinders, a forge furnace, oil bath and more
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Ol Jim there sure likes to give his freakin sword to any yahoo that comes along.
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Old December 09, 2017, 00:01   #18
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Cool OUTSTANDING WORK

Great work, approximately how many hours did this take?

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Great work, approximately how many hours did this take?
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Hmmmm...

1.5 initial forge to bent.

1.5 forged to grind start.

2 hours total grind time.

2 hours total time on furniture.

2 hours buff/polish.

1 hour on the scrimshaw so far...

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Smile THATS QUICK WORK

The residual file/rasp surfaces give the blade great character.

Up the Irons

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What material did you use for the pommel and bolster? The first pics looked like a white metal, but the finished product looked to be brass or bronze. Or was that just the camera lighting playing tricks? And last but not least, did you use your power hammer for the forming of the base blase or hand hammer it all the way?

Anyway, that thing looks good for the first attempt at a big knife. Scrimshaw was pretty good too.
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What material did you use for the pommel and bolster?
Technically there is no pommel, as it is a full tang design.
But all the bits, including the rear bolsters, are O-1 tool steel.

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The first pics looked like a white metal, but the finished product looked to be brass or bronze. Or was that just the camera lighting playing tricks?
It's O-1 tool steel.

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And last but not least, did you use your power hammer for the forming of the base blase or hand hammer it all the way?
The power hammer never touched this blade. It would have served no purpose as the power hammer is for billet-shaping and folds, which this knife needed neither of.

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Anyway, that thing looks good for the first attempt at a big knife. Scrimshaw was pretty good too.
This is hardly my first big knife.

This...

Is considerably more formidable at 2lbs+10oz and 20" overall.
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You did well attaching the rear bolsters. Since I didn't see any rivets like the the front, I assumed it was a pommel.

And right after I posted, I did recall you have produced other blades.

In any case, I , along with others, are impressed with you metal working skills. I could only wish that I had you shop, time to practice, and a modicum of you skill sets. I truly believe you are the epitome of a Renaissance man. Kudos to you, sir.
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not quite ....... proper tooling will make a big difference

if you do not have a decent anvil it will take considerably more effort to pound out the steel and form it the way you wish

looks like he has several large belt grinders, a forge furnace, oil bath and more
So, Kotengu and I may be guilty of a little bit of tongue in cheek here.

The video reveals some not insignificant issues.

-He hits the metal a lot when non-radiant. A major no-no as it introduces unwanted stresses
-he makes a great bent tip, but then works the wrong side of the blade IMO. Maybe he wanted a cavalry sabre, but if he wanted a straighter blade form he needed to bend the blade the wrong way before working the edge to form to bend it the right way (see my pics above)
-the point of maximum flex is right where there is a left in place indented line across the blade. This area is right where the guard would be if a guard were included. I am guessing he did this to keep the section with the text intact. I get it, but it is structurally a problem.

I suspect Kotengu spotted some of this and that was the point of his comment.
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You did well attaching the rear bolsters. Since I didn't see any rivets like the the front, I assumed it was a pommel.
None of the pins are truly invisible, which, I have to admit, was a bit of a let-down, as I tried to peen them out to match the bolsters.

It's tricky business, trying to work steel bits inside other steel bits so they fit while the epoxy hardens. I think this is the reason so many smiths are going to ornamental pins and such. Slather everything in epoxy and screw the pins in and grind off the flat-head portions...it's so pretty!
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So, Kotengu and I may be guilty of a little bit of tongue in cheek here.

The video reveals some not insignificant issues.

-He hits the metal a lot when non-radiant. A major no-no as it introduces unwanted stresses

-he makes a great bent tip, but then works the wrong side of the blade IMO. Maybe he wanted a cavalry sabre, but if he wanted a straighter blade form he needed to bend the blade the wrong way before working the edge to form to bend it the right way (see my pics above)

-the point of maximum flex is right where there is a left in place indented line across the blade. This area is right where the guard would be if a guard were included. I am guessing he did this to keep the section with the text intact. I get it, but it is structurally a problem.

I suspect Kotengu spotted some of this and that was the point of his comment.
possibly he wanted to form small stress cracks in order to induce more carbon into the steel, unless you ask him we will not know

I suspect he was going for the classic samurai profile for the blade

I belive you are correct about the line, but something tells me this is not a work blade, but a show blade
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possibly he wanted to form small stress cracks in order to induce more carbon into the steel, unless you ask him we will not know
That's not how this works.
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That's not how this works.
Well then you had best teach him
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Well then you had best teach him
That is not my purpose in this world.

I'll make my things, and he will make his, and some will make nothing...and yet comment on those that did.
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