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Old March 04, 2018, 20:09   #1
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1947 Enfield No. 5 Mk I

I just upgraded my Photobucket account and I want to try it out. I bought this No. 5 from a member here (thanks John). I had always loved the "cobby" look of the ol' "Jungle Carbine". Very jaunty as the Brits might say! Recently, my son, son-in-law and myself took her out for a few rounds. We were just plinking really and funny thing, nobody wanted to shoot more than 3 or 4 rounds through her. Yes, I can verify the reports that they kick like a mule!






















And some 1952 Kynoch .303
Hey, that's as old as I am...smell that cordite!!

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Old March 04, 2018, 21:19   #2
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Very nice! Same rifle for me also , but dated 1945. For some reason these rifles are hardly seen anymore in the "C&R venues of purchase" Either highly prized or fewer in/on the market. Mine is not going anywhere. The recoil is not soooo bad with a solid hold to your shoulder, not as bad as the M44 Mosin Carbine in my opinion.

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Old March 04, 2018, 23:16   #3
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Thank you sir! Yeah, my M38 Mosin has some recoil, but so does the Cetme FR-8 in 7.62x51. It will be interesting to take them out to the farm for a bit of comparison. Not quite sure how objective that will be though by the time all three have been shot a few times.
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Old March 05, 2018, 10:14   #4
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Jungle Carbines can be a bit daunting to collect due to the high percentage of fakes on the market.

Interesting enough, the M44 is comfortable to shoot while standing, but punishment while win the prone… seems fitting for a com-block rifle.
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Old March 05, 2018, 11:00   #5
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Nice one Tex, the one I have was made in 1946.

Fun to collect, not to shoot.
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Old March 05, 2018, 11:43   #6
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Nice one Tex, the one I have was made in 1946.

Fun to collect, not to shoot.
Thanks HDH! You got that part right!
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Old March 05, 2018, 15:47   #7
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Huh, all this talk is going to make me pull my Jungle Carbine out and actually go shoot it. Along with my Mosin, and FR-8, and.................
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Old March 05, 2018, 17:15   #8
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Huh, all this talk is going to make me pull my Jungle Carbine out and actually go shoot it. Along with my Mosin, and FR-8, and.................
Give us a report when you've done it. Which one had the most impressive recoil?
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The fakes are easy enough to figure out, but I have not even seen those around anymore. Try and find a correct bayo to go with that rifle.
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Old March 05, 2018, 18:30   #10
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Those Jungle Carbines have always been cool...kinda like a "pre-scout rifle scout rifle."
And yours looks like a very nice one OP!
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Personally I never really found the 303 No5 rifles to have above average recoil. I've owned several over the years...found one last year in a local trade for dirt cheap - 11/44 dated , matching with unboinkered with wood.
My 14 year old son has put several hundred rounds of privy through it....and would shoot it all day if he's not told to stop wasting ammo !.
Finding a decent condition pre 1946 bayonet for one of these is friggin hard !. I'm still looking for one that's not a boat anchor !.
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Those Jungle Carbines have always been cool...kinda like a "pre-scout rifle scout rifle."
And yours looks like a very nice one OP!
Thank you much! I like it a lot.

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Personally I never really found the 303 No5 rifles to have above average recoil. I've owned several over the years...found one last year in a local trade for dirt cheap - 11/44 dated , matching with unboinkered with wood.
My 14 year old son has put several hundred rounds of privy through it....and would shoot it all day if he's not told to stop wasting ammo !.
Finding a decent condition pre 1946 bayonet for one of these is friggin hard !. I'm still looking for one that's not a boat anchor !.
Tough kid!
I'd probably call it quits after 20 rounds or so.
Yeah, I'd like a bayo for it too.
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Old March 06, 2018, 00:28   #13
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real EZ to ID the Navy Arms fakes

we snagged an original last year at a show for $100, vendor was liquidating junk, this one had rasp work on the butt.
was going to swap the butt out but ended up selling it for a bit over $400 as is.
It really wasn't that bad

Mk5 guns recoil wise are only slightly worse than the full length, it's the damn muzzle blast that works folks

Passed on another original a month + back
real decent gun, $350 but not much of a gain over investment really
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Mk5 guns recoil wise are only slightly worse than the full length, it's the damn muzzle blast that works folks
I think their "memorable" recoil is due to their light weight. If feels lighter in the hand than either the short-barreled Mosins or the FR-8.
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Thanks HDH! You got that part right!
My example, not as nice as your example Tex but beggars can't be choosey.



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My example, not as nice as your example Tex but beggars can't be choosey.



That looks good to me! Heh heh, I wish I were a "beggar" like you! Remember, I've seen some of your collection!
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Besides the recoil the blast is considerable too. Shot my #5 against my buddies #4 and there was a big difference in report. It is a light and handy battle rifle though.
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Nice little carbines to look at and tote. Definitely more felt recoil and muzzleblast than with the standard-length Lee Enfields. Recall thinking that it was more pronounced than with the M44 or M38 Mosins. The main reason mine went away was the way the recoil drove the bolt knob into the web between my thumb and index finger. Very tiresome. I did reload for it but just got tired of monkeying with it and confined my attention to the full-length rifles. IIRC it was marked "10-47" which I took to mean it was manufactured October 1947, can't recall what if any place of manufacture, but was stamped "England".
Got mine thru an estate-sale- an old geezer's widow selling off her late husband's gear, in which his progeny had no interest. Their loss my gain. Sold or traded the Jungle Carbine but kept a considerable trove of ammo and other stuff including 5-round mags.. a lot of the ammo is in original boxes, Winchester stuff marked "Lend-Lease".. historic in themselves to a collector I suppose. Some of the other ammo was Brit-made and shoots well from my late '40's no import-marked Fazakerley #4MKII.
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pretty gun. i have a '47 marked bun that was "sportered" lightly from new, i suppose. recoil isn't that bad.
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Beautiful examples of the breed...super clean.

I think these rifles are the perfect candidates for reduced, cast bullet loads.



The last time I shot a jungle carbine was at sundown, on a range in IL, several years ago.

To say the muzzle flash (read: fireball) was impressive would almost be an understatement!
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Thanks for the nice comments gentlemen! I appreciate them a lot.
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Nice little carbines to look at and tote. Definitely more felt recoil and muzzleblast than with the standard-length Lee Enfields. Recall thinking that it was more pronounced than with the M44 or M38 Mosins. The main reason mine went away was the way the recoil drove the bolt knob into the web between my thumb and index finger. Very tiresome. I did reload for it but just got tired of monkeying with it and confined my attention to the full-length rifles. IIRC it was marked "10-47" which I took to mean it was manufactured October 1947, can't recall what if any place of manufacture, but was stamped "England".
Got mine thru an estate-sale- an old geezer's widow selling off her late husband's gear, in which his progeny had no interest. Their loss my gain. Sold or traded the Jungle Carbine but kept a considerable trove of ammo and other stuff including 5-round mags.. a lot of the ammo is in original boxes, Winchester stuff marked "Lend-Lease".. historic in themselves to a collector I suppose. Some of the other ammo was Brit-made and shoots well from my late '40's no import-marked Fazakerley #4MKII.
If true I don't think I will ever bother shooting my #5. I hated shooting the Mosin 44 because of that felt recoil. Truth be known the only Bolt action rifle that I bother with anymore is my Swiss K31.

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Here's some ammo for it:

https://www.sgammo.com/product/303-b...-1980s-vintage
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