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Old June 23, 2019, 22:27   #1
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Mak 90 info and opinions

Hey guys a local pawn shop has a Mak 90 for for sale for 800.00 dollars. It is a non slant cut rear receiver. I believe it to be an early one. The mak 90 is stamped into the receiver but were it says sportster it looks almost electro penciled and is very crude. Has what looks to be a factory 30 round norinco mag. The top cover has a cheap scope on it with a thumb screw on the right side rear. Never seen one like this top cover. Anyway is it a good deal? info on that top cover or any details are greatly appreciated. Bore looks great and I think the front sight might be canted just a hair.
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Old June 23, 2019, 22:54   #2
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Finding an unmarked dust cover shouldn't be too difficult. I wouldn't pay $800 at a pawnshop for one. I would offer $600 cash and see what they say. Cash always talks at pawn shops.
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Old June 24, 2019, 08:29   #3
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Depends how bad you want a Chinese AK. Personally I wouldn't pay that much. I'd keep saving for a Polytech Legend series or Norinco spiker. But that's just me.
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Old June 24, 2019, 10:43   #4
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The fact that it takes normal stocks is a plus ..But unless brand new in box still in bag it is not even close to 800 ..700 would be my max ....

The only models of the MAK that are worth a bit ( in non milled guns that is ...)

1. The very early caught in ban ones ie type 56 sporters that were crudly de banned as these esp the UF ones can be a little easier to deal with in de ban and are closer to the org 56s
2. The Canadian ones ie the 18 or 19inch barrel models that were re imported from there they can go for a bit


Remember to properly de ban you are looking at a bit of money esp for a proper china stock ( like 100-200 bucks for a wood stock 300+ for a side folder ) ....Will be cheeper to use USA made but ....

The mag is worth 30-40 bucks at most fyi

I would offer 700 and see what they say ..out the door that is
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Old June 24, 2019, 12:34   #5
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Yeah the guy is being a tool. I offered 650.00 cash out the door and he came back with 750.00.I am really just looking for a project gun to work on. I would not have even gone in there if the gun shop up the street still had the used saiga Ak 74 in the hunting stock for 550.00. I love putting those things back right. I would weldup the holes change gas block,front sight and some arsenal furniture. That Carolina shooters conversion is for noobs and in my opinion make the gun look cheap.
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Old June 24, 2019, 12:41   #6
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All I really want it for is to shoot the piss out off. I was going to turn it into a arsenal 107 cr profile. My arsenal SLR 's have become glorified safe queens.
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Old June 24, 2019, 14:16   #7
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Just keep an eye on it and keep cash at the ready. And talk to a different person if at all possible. I bet he'll be willing to deal before too long.
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Old June 24, 2019, 17:31   #8
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Yeah Joe I am kind of thinking along those lines too.I will give it 3 weeks and go back and see if it's still there.
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Old July 03, 2019, 02:30   #9
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Update: Ended up getting a Norinco Nhm 91 at another shop. Square back receiver and welded muzzle cover.Orginal box with everything . Never fired by orginal buyer and placed on a shelf for 28 years. Got it for 900.00 bucks out the door.
I do have a question. Can I put Rpk furniture on it? I know the stock will fit with a little sanding but I am not sure about the lower hand guard? It looks like it has a normal retainer and not squared off. I have access to a Romainan stock set but don't want to spend the money if hand guards won't fit.
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Old July 03, 2019, 08:53   #10
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Personally, I wouldn't buy a chinese AK. Too limited.

You can buy factory Bulgarian one for a lot less than modifying a chicom.

Nothing wrong with Chinese quality, it's just they are all AK pattern, not AKM and not 100 series and nothing but chinese and some early Yugo will fit. Buy a 100 series SLR 104 or 107 and you've got nothing to modify. (Well, I usually clean up the trigger and put on an ultimak rail.)

You can modify euro furniture for the NHM or Mak. The 1.5mm walls require reducing the stock tenon- also the tang is longer. Lot of hand fitting but it can be done.

Same on the handguard - narrower tenon and reshape the handguard support area.

I've done a couple as Tabuk types. Started as a NHM91
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Mark is spot-on about the Chinese AKs being limited as to how you can modify them, however, if you are looking just to de-ban the rifle and bring it close to Type 56 form, it's a fun project that can yield a very high quality, hard use, and beautiful rifle. Below is a photo of a MAK-90 that I picked up for around $600 before the de-banning process. I spent about $80 on the stock, $60 or so on the grip/ferule, about $10 on the shellac to match the grip to the rest of the furniture and around $30 for the Bulgarian front sight with the cleaning rod retaining fangs. The Bulgarian FS is not correct, however.

MAKs really peaked in price last year, but have come down a little since. I think that if you got him down to $700, that is a fair price for a high quality AK pattern rifle.

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Very nice looking MAK there Blackford Oakes.
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Old July 04, 2019, 03:57   #13
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Thankyou Mark and Balckford for the info. I have 2 74 saiga 's I put back to ak profile. I have a arsenal 107cr I bought used a month ago with the jmak rail installed in Florda. As for a Arsenal 104 people in my neck of the woods want stuped money for them. I bought both the saiga 74 sporters a year ago for 700.00 each. They seem to be getting harder and harder to find. I wanted a project gun to fool with so I don't mind the hand fitting.
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Old July 05, 2019, 04:31   #14
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Personally, I wouldn't buy a chinese AK. Too limited.

You can buy factory Bulgarian one for a lot less than modifying a chicom.

Nothing wrong with Chinese quality, it's just they are all AK pattern, not AKM and not 100 series and nothing but chinese and some early Yugo will fit. Buy a 100 series SLR 104 or 107 and you've got nothing to modify. (Well, I usually clean up the trigger and put on an ultimak rail.)

You can modify euro furniture for the NHM or Mak. The 1.5mm walls require reducing the stock tenon- also the tang is longer. Lot of hand fitting but it can be done. I read a research about gun control of this model at https://edubirdie.com/argumentative-essay-writing-service. They have argumentative opinion.

Same on the handguard - narrower tenon and reshape the handguard support area.

I've done a couple as Tabuk types. Started as a NHM91
I know they produced (or are producing now?) a modification for hunting. It's working like a single rifle. What do you think about this?
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I have two that I have been very happy with, but I haven't tried (and don't plan on) to switch anything away from Chinese configuration. I swapped the trigger groups with Tapco ones, swapped pistons, and have several Magpul mags for 922(r) purposes. They both shoot great.

If I wanted to go modern, I'd go with one of the Arsenals.
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From everything I read, why would you swap trigger groups from Chinese stock to TAPCO? I'm currently waiting for my MAK 90 to get here and the trigger is supposedly one of the best ever made on a factory rifle. TAPCO is still casting all their stuff, correct?
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Personally, I wouldn't buy a chinese AK. Too limited.

You can buy factory Bulgarian one for a lot less than modifying a chicom.

Nothing wrong with Chinese quality, it's just they are all AK pattern, not AKM and not 100 series and nothing but chinese and some early Yugo will fit. Buy a 100 series SLR 104 or 107 and you've got nothing to modify. (Well, I usually clean up the trigger and put on an ultimak rail.)

You can modify euro furniture for the NHM or Mak. The 1.5mm walls require reducing the stock tenon- also the tang is longer. Lot of hand fitting but it can be done.

Same on the handguard - narrower tenon and reshape the handguard support area.

I've done a couple as Tabuk types. Started as a NHM91
That thing is stupid good looking GP! What is the barrel on it from? I recognize the flash hider - same one I have on my PSL.
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From everything I read, why would you swap trigger groups from Chinese stock to TAPCO? I'm currently waiting for my MAK 90 to get here and the trigger is supposedly one of the best ever made on a factory rifle. TAPCO is still casting all their stuff, correct?
Some people still worry about 922r...

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Some people still worry about 922r...

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I was wondering that after I posted.
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Can I put Rpk furniture on it? I know the stock will fit with a little sanding but I am not sure about the lower hand guard? It looks like it has a normal retainer and not squared off. I have access to a Romainan stock set but don't want to spend the money if hand guards won't fit.
Yes, but you have to WECSOG the rear of the lower handguard with a dremel, file and sand paper to fit the narrower 'shelf' (created by the thicker MAK receiver walls). 2 x .6mm worth, about.

Also, you'll have to drill the front retainer for the cleaning rod hole - as I recollect, those were not finished at the factory.

Then you'll want a Bulgarian front sight & RPK cleaning rod.
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Old July 08, 2019, 01:46   #21
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Found 2 MAKs at a gun show earlier this month and the Milled gun was $1300 and the stamped gun was $1000.
Both looked unfired and very clean.
I didn't have enough money on me or I would have tried to work a deal on both of them. Don't think I would have gone over $700 a piece for them.
Great rifles tho'.
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