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Old May 18, 2019, 08:22   #1
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Are the higher dollar knives worth the money? Is a Randall worth $500 more than a Buck? First knife I ever bought was an Old timer folder for work and I still have it. Cost me $10 new and served me well but was too big and too hard to open and close.

I bet most of you guys have a drawer full of knives just like I do but none of mine are high dollar. If you wanted to pick the best for the money then what's your choice?
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Old May 18, 2019, 09:00   #2
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I think price is relative.
My carry knife is a benchmade wood north fork.
But at work things get pretty dirty so then its a cheap CRKT.

When out hunting or fishing I carry a Winkler Blue ridge hunter or a Everycarry.
Ive collected a handful of Winklers and they aren't cheap. But like anything else its a investment.
And I can tell how a good knife trumps a cheap one just by how they keep an edge.
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Old May 18, 2019, 18:28   #3
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Best price vs performance for most would be to me ESEE, Becker, and Busse's Swamp Rat and SYKCO lines in SR101 steel (the hard bit with the last two is availabilty - they are mostly not off the shelf). There is very very little you can't accomplish in life with a knife from any of these and all are under $200US, most closer to $100US.
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I carry Al Mar and older Spyderco folders.

Fixed blades are my own or from Custom makers.

200.00 buys a lot of good steel.


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I’ve used three “cheap” knives since 2000...two CRKTs and a Kershaw. Still have and carry them and they’ve all rendered good service, especially for the money.

I do have a Randall No 14 Border Patrol that was a gift from a friend and while I wouldn’t be afraid to use/carry it, it’s a bit on the large side to be practical. It’s a hell of a knife and I like it but had it not been a gift, I don’t think I would’ve spent $500+ on it as I don’t really collect knives. It’s an extremely nice and well built knife though.
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I cannot survive without a Kershaw Scallion in my pocket.

$8 victorinox paring knives by the dozen in the kitchen

Myerchin with spike on boats.

Dive knife is a titanium folder.

Field knife is a blunt tip truly stainless Japanese fixed blade.

The large Bokers, kershaws, benchmades sit in drawers unless a unique occasion calls for one.

I’m on my fourth Scallion.
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Old May 18, 2019, 21:27   #7
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I cannot survive without a Kershaw Scallion in my pocket.

$8 victorinox paring knives by the dozen in the kitchen

Myerchin with spike on boats.

Dive knife is a titanium folder.

Field knife is a blunt tip truly stainless Japanese fixed blade.

The large Bokers, kershaws, benchmades sit in drawers unless a unique occasion calls for one.

I’m on my fourth Scallion.
..... you have had more nice knives through your hands than you mention....strange thing is you insist on mailing them on...
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/WORKPRO-Utili...TAS5BB915KYJJJ

Near endless sharp blades for under $25. You probably won't gut a deer with it but it's near perfect for everyday use.
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Old May 19, 2019, 09:39   #9
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/WORKPRO-Utili...TAS5BB915KYJJJ

Near endless sharp blades for under $25. You probably won't gut a deer with it but it's near perfect for everyday use.

Throw away blades does make for an interesting concept that can serve well for their intended purpose. But keep in mind that those blades were designed to be for light duty chores such as cutting boxes or banding straps. For more serious duty you might consider a less flexible, wiggly cutting edge. My brother loves the one that I passed on to him. Mainly because in his business he has lot of fiber banding and boxes to be cut when making deliveries.
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..... you have had more nice knives through your hands than you mention....strange thing is you insist on mailing them on...
I thought those were collectibles, not useable knives????
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I can't see spending a hell of a lot on knives for collecting. Most expensive I have is about $90. Mine pick up legs and eventually replace themselves. I do like my razor knife. Gets dull and just put a new blade in.

I learned a few weeks ago that at all of the manufacturing facilities the company owns, no steel blade knives are allowed. Say whut?
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I can't see spending a hell of a lot on knives for collecting. Most expensive I have is about $90. Mine pick up legs and eventually replace themselves. I do like my razor knife. Gets dull and just put a new blade in.

I learned a few weeks ago that at all of the manufacturing facilities the company owns, no steel blade knives are allowed. Say whut?
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Old May 19, 2019, 17:24   #14
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I use box cutters on deer

I save my good screwdrivers for assholes
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Busted. ^

.....bastards.... !!!! I will however never buy I knife I wont use !!!!!! Now if I ever get around to using them all....that is a different question !!!!!!

All that aside...I am about to put one on the market that is almost unheard of or seen and should sell for enough $US to pay for the rear bar and wheel carriers on my new Landcruiser......
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I'm about to let go of the two fave Busse-kin knives for the same reason I sold that NOS New Zealand FAL kit with matching numbers AND matching wood serials - I can't use these perfect/new 'Custom Shop' outfits.

It ain't the money, but I just can't bring myself to shoot what someone definitely wants as a collectible.

I'm gonna let them have it. Then I'm going to buy something more utilitarian. I'm gonna get me some more Swamp Rats and at least a couple of knives by Terry's guy, Gary Griffin.
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My hunting knives have been Buck fixed blade knives. For years my every day carry has been a Spyderco until the built in polymer clip started allowing the knife to fall out. Can't replace it so it went to the drawer. I have been carrying a Gerber auto knife with the tanto blame but the steel clip catches on thinks and wears holes in my shirts. It's too heavy too.

I am going to buy a new knife but I want something of good steel and quality that makes for a good resale when I die. I have been seeing some nice Randall knives for sale and they seem to hold their value. Everything isn't just about money, the knife should be a good perforner. My Bucks are great knives but won't hold their value.

So I look to you guys for ideas and you thought on knives.
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I really want Buck’s factory automatic.

But I want the lightweight with the pocket clip too.




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Throw away blades does make for an interesting concept that can serve well for their intended purpose. But keep in mind that those blades were designed to be for light duty chores such as cutting boxes or banding straps. For more serious duty you might consider a less flexible, wiggly cutting edge. My brother loves the one that I passed on to him. Mainly because in his business he has lot of fiber banding and boxes to be cut when making deliveries.
You obviously have no knowledge on which you speak! At about 1.375" of exposed length this is a very non-flexible non-wiggly blade! As for usage WTH are you doing with your EDC everyday, butchering bison? I cut tile, drywall, cement board, plastic packaging and cardboard boxes and whatever else comes up. The fiber banding I just bite through with my teeth! It's not pretty but it works and it is always sharp!
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Stand easy. For the cutting chores you listed, one of those disposable blades would do the job. My experience with them was less than what my expectations were. My preference is to a more robustly constructed knife. My EDC choice does indeed require heavier usage, although not so much now after retirement. EDC choices are a personal thing for each individual based on their own needs. I did not intend to denigrate you or your choice. My intent was to only express my own experiences with them. Carry on.
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My EDC is a Buck Deuce. For those who don't know what that is; it is a small twin blade pen knife. It opens boxes, cuts string, rope, and zip ties just fine. My job doesn't really require much more than that, and my knife fighting skills aren't nearly as good as my running away skills...so, no need for anything tactical.

What I keep in my hunting pack are a couple Kershaw folders, a couple Gerber fixed blades, a Case fixed blade...and on my hip is a new custom built fixed blade (a gift from my friend Roy Walker of Walker Knives). Why so many? Well, the stag handled Case fixed blade was my dad's...So, it comes along with every hunt no matter what. The new custom knife will likely replace one or a couple of my others, but I haven't decided which one(s) yet.

The real reason I carry multiples is that elk are big tough animals. When I dull a knife while skinning and boning, I like to move on to a new knife rather than take the time to clean up the blade. There is plenty of time to properly clean and sharpen the knives back in camp. Plus, the meat gets broken down quicker, and gets packed out quicker....Thus, getting on ice quicker...Which is paramount to good tasting elk.

And; for the record, I do carry a pull through knife sharpener as well. We do occasionally get multiple animals down at the same time.
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Stand easy. For the cutting chores you listed, one of those disposable blades would do the job. My experience with them was less than what my expectations were. My preference is to a more robustly constructed knife. My EDC choice does indeed require heavier usage, although not so much now after retirement. EDC choices are a personal thing for each individual based on their own needs. I did not intend to denigrate you or your choice. My intent was to only express my own experiences with them. Carry on.
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I bought the Gerber because it' opens with one hand and will cut a seat belt right quick. It has a solid end you could bust out a car windshield and a handle that makes for a firm grip. I figure I will get into a car accident long before I would ever need a fighting knife. In my travels I have come up on accidents that I had no way to break the glass to get folks out.

The Gerber was a good choice when I traveled a lot.

Those Randall knives are really calling me. Not as a edc but a well made good knife with a name for quality. $500 to $600 is a lot of money for a knife, I could buy 10 Buck knives for that amount.
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Just buy a Randall Made knife that suits you.
Use and enjoy it for the rest of your time.

I had my 4 personal Randall's for sale on my gunshow table last weekend and sold one, my Model 14 for $500.
Still have older Model 1 and Model 15 for sale at $500 each.
Also Model 18 with walking staff / spear for $750 (might keep this one).
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Custom knives are like custom AR15s. Most people (including me) arent skilled enough that we get any special advantage from them. Pride of ownership for a hand made object will always justify paying more for such things.

There are lots of affordable knives made of good steels like s30v now. My EDC is a cheap Smith And Wesson chinese assisted folder from WalMart. When it comes to shealth knives I prefer something no thicker on the spine than 1/8in. Not sure what these people who buy Becker BK9s are doing with them. Such knives arent very useful for skinning and whitling, and if I want to chop down a tree I have a Poulan chainsaw and a hatchet.
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Just buy a Randall Made knife that suits you.
Use and enjoy it for the rest of your time.

I had my 4 personal Randall's for sale on my gunshow table last weekend and sold one, my Model 14 for $500.
Still have older Model 1 and Model 15 for sale at $500 each.
Also Model 18 with walking staff / spear for $750 (might keep this one).
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Thanks for the offer, right now I am leaning toward a friends Randall and may trade him out of it.
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For the past year or so I've carried a Kershaw 'Amplitude' flipper with a 2.5" blade. A 2.5" blade doesn't create a problem in places that are concerned about such things. I have a 'Blur' on standby, however.

I have two TOPS sheath knives, their "Brothers of Bushcraft" and the pukko, both in carbon steel. Great knives and extremely rugged. Price was reasonable. Use the pukko daily around the place.

The demands I have using a blade just aren't to where I feel I need a $400/$500 knife. I'd never buy anything I was hesitant to use, and loosing such a thing would be some sleepless nights!
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Buck 184 is an awesome knife.

If you can find one without a 2nd mortgage. Even on ebay they're generally around $300
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With or without the sheath, this is one of the best deals going in a fixed blade knife, in my opinion.

https://www.varusteleka.com/en/produ...on-steel/56524
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So from reading this thread I have come to the conclusion that knives are to some men what purses are to some women.

A fugging status symbol.

$500 for a knife?????
Why?
My ancestors used sharp rocks, and I am proof that they survived to procreate.
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The new lightweight 110 made the trip to SD/MT/WY without any issues. The shitter in the plane exploded during a layover in CO. They got the HAZMAT guys on it pretty quick, so I didn’t get a chance to leave the airport and scrape any bowls.

When I got home I switched sides for the pocket clip.
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14 y/o grandson stayed one day with Grandma last week. This was a real conversation - LOL.

Momo, do you know Papa has a real switchblade out on his workbench?

Yes.

Why?

It is mostly a conversation piece, but really he just uses it to open packages.

Can I have it?

No.

Dang-it.

PS - For the record, I always carry a 3-blade, 4 inch, Buck or Case folder everyday and have since I was about 5 years old. Always a good spare blade when another one gets dull, unobtrusive in the pocket, and easily replaced if lost. It does 90% of everything I need done.
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I remember my 14yo Godson calling me to the bathroom during a visit years ago. Needed some help to stop the bleeding (and conceal it from his mother). He was always allowed free access to my sharp steel box but one bit him !! We almost got away with it as well.....
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I still have my Old Timer folder that I used as a hunting knife. I bought the Old Timer steel to keep it sharp too. I was in my teens when I bought them so they are pretty old now.
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