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Old April 10, 2017, 20:10   #1
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10 Months is a long time

LGS just got a stamp in the mail today. Snail mailed in June 2016. Approved April 2017. By my count that is 10 long months. By that speed I still have 3 more months to wait.

Anybody else got any time frame references?
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Old April 10, 2017, 20:16   #2
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I haven't seen anything break into July, but seen a few late Junes

I mailed mine on July 12th, i think with the mass influx in July, I will be looking May-June at this rate.
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10 months is accurate. Friend of mine just got his stuff in. Yep 10 months
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Mine used to run 100 days like clockwork. One can grow old waiting on this stuff. I am waiting on 2 F1's. Oh shit, I am old!!

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I got an efile Form 1 on LLC approved earlier this year in 6 months & 6 days

best to file 'em and forget 'em and have a nice surprise when they finally are approved.
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Old April 11, 2017, 06:40   #7
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Sent one in August, nothing yet.
Me too. Crickets, and we're at 8 months.
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I don't even remember what I have pending. I guess I'll be super surprised someday? We'll see.

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I just called the nfa branch to check the status of a can, submitted 11JUL2016, form 3 approved 04OCT2016, was told form 4 approval would be end of June.
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Old April 13, 2017, 23:41   #14
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10 months is about right

Sent form 4 June 22 2016. Received stamp on April 7 2017. Still have 2 more in the pipeline filed before 41F rule change.
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9-10 months seems to be the current wait. I am one month in on a form 3, that send it and forget it isn't too easy!
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Form 4's from March came back seven months, April eight months and still waiting on June stamps. Think have four in June pipeline sent a week apart then one sent first week of July. Bet it takes a year. Form 1's fast as 47 days. Seems like they would have the folk in Form 1 department helping with backlog of Form 4's. Once they get caught up to July 12th then anything purchase after rule changes turn around time will go down drastically pretty soon. When all my June and July stamps come back have a new Trust already waiting to start putting new items in. Plan to at least buy one before the $200 Silencerco rebate expires. Actually have two more picked out, LGS has them ordered and once they arrive will buy as come in stock. Hate waiting for them to get their papers before able to send mine on out of stock items. Seems like once a person gets first form or two approved they could streamline process since all background checks and such have been done before and in system. Used to be fast turn around on CCW renewals in Georgia and now a renewal takes same time as a first time application. Doesn't make sense as had a valid carry permit for 33 years. Seems like probation judge could rubber stamp renewals.
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I submitted a F4 for an MG in late December/early January. I will be thrilled if it's approved before the first quarter of 2018.

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I'm at 9.5 months on a Form 1 Individual.........I don't understand? I have the same face, same fingerprints and I live in the same goddamn house as I did when I submitted my other three Form 1's that were approved. That's gov't work for you.
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LGS got three more this weekend approved. Submitted the week before the new trust rules drop dead date.
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Hello all, I'm also waiting on two form 4s.. They were both submitted early November 2016. When I contacted the ATF I was told in the 45 days prior to the 41f rule change they received well over 300,000 applications. At that time it had taken them approximately 2.5 months to work through thoes applications. However, after the rule change went into effect the number of applications they received dropped significantly. When I talking to them they implied about an eight-month wait time for form 4s. We will see...
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Also, has anyone here try to hanging a can off of their FAL?
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Preferred method for me. I've lost my love for the other 11. Well sorta
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LGS got three more this weekend approved. Submitted the week before the new trust rules drop dead date.
Probably a little longer for moderators of the FF. You been issuing infractions to the gub snitches around here lately?
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Preferred method for me. I've lost my love for the other 11. Well sorta
Any tips on gas settings? I will be running a AAC 762SD. As for the other 11 I don't think I want to know...

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Also, has anyone here try to hanging a can off of their FAL?
Yes, 16" short gas with AAC 762SDN which is a long but quiet can. Right now it's next to bed with an AAC 762SDN-6 which is much shorter. Have four rifles in rack next to bed with cans. 5.56 SBR with red/green dot sight (compatable with N.V. monocular) and binary trigger, 6.8 spc II with red dot, 5.56 with 6x night vision scope for sniping varmints and the FAL.



In addition to rearranging the cans so the FAL has the short can, it also has optics swapped to this configuration. The SCAR has nicest battle scope ever used leave it at 1x and just flip a lever for 4x and easiest to use in-scope range finder of all tried.



The red dot for CQB and 1-4x scope for medium range work. With the AAC 762SDN-6 if turn gas to lowest setting it runs fine. With most cans have to modify a gas plug with smaller hole or overgas the rifle and shred brass. If run the 762SDN without turning down gas it bends the rims, the -6 with gas adjustment and it purrs like a kitten and runs like a sewing machine. Stimpsonjcat has forgotten more about supressing an FAL than I will ever know. Considering a 338 multicaliber can to see if have to monkey with gas to not run too hard. Have discovered using the 30 caliber quick change cans on any under 30 caliber rifle and gas system doesn't back up and overpressure the gun.
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NICE! Thanks for the info. Now all I need is to get my FAL back😞 and wait to get my can.😀
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Any tips on gas settings? I will be running a AAC 762 SDN6. As for the other 11 I don't think I want to know...
Yes - buy a spare gas plug and send it to member "stimpsonjcat" to be welded up and redrilled with a smaller port. This will be your "supressed" gas plug and restrict the amount of gas to cycle the action so you don't get nearly so much blowback.

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NICE! Thanks for the info. Now all I need is to get my FAL back😞 and wait to get my can.😀
PM Stimpsonjcat or look at some old threads if able to weld up a gas plug and drill to smaller diameter. If do a dedicated full time can then need to reduce the gas. Since I use quick change that are designed to give minimal back pressure can get away with turning gas down but only get one or two reloads out of brass run with suppressor and stock gas plug. Why using the Silencerco rebate soon to get a 338 quick change can. Of experience using 30 caliber cans on 6.8, 7mm, 6.5 and 5.56 never have to turn gas down and just click and run. Hope a 338 quick change on the FAL will reduce back pressure and wear on brass. Don't really want to keep up with swapping gas plugs or abusing brass. FYI all my pre-trust law cans are in hand and ready to start filling a third Trust. Why does it have to be so confusing based on laws of the day have to run multiple trusts?
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Now at 11 months.
Wow! Is this your first NFA item? Still think if a person has one already, subsequent units should run fast. Why drag out someone if have already gone through the system, especially on third and so on units.
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Not my first. I already have a few SBRs, and five other cans. This was an impulse buy at a local gun shop before the new trust rules came into effect. Amazing that it does take so long.
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Any tips on gas settings? I will be running a AAC 762 SDN6. As for the other 11 I don't think I want to know...
I was running mine wide open on a para. Pulled down last nite and the guide rod is beat up. Probably not as big of an issue on a regular butt stock. Guess the gas plug thing will be in the works. Transferring it to an STG in the meantime
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Yes, 16" short gas with AAC 762SDN which is a long but quiet can. Right now it's next to bed with an AAC 762SDN-6 which is much shorter. Have four rifles in rack next to bed with cans. 5.56 SBR with red/green dot sight (compatable with N.V. monocular) and binary trigger, 6.8 spc II with red dot, 5.56 with 6x night vision scope for sniping varmints and the FAL.



In addition to rearranging the cans so the FAL has the short can, it also has optics swapped to this configuration. The SCAR has nicest battle scope ever used leave it at 1x and just flip a lever for 4x and easiest to use in-scope range finder of all tried.



The red dot for CQB and 1-4x scope for medium range work. With the AAC 762SDN-6 if turn gas to lowest setting it runs fine. With most cans have to modify a gas plug with smaller hole or overgas the rifle and shred brass. If run the 762SDN without turning down gas it bends the rims, the -6 with gas adjustment and it purrs like a kitten and runs like a sewing machine. Stimpsonjcat has forgotten more about supressing an FAL than I will ever know. Considering a 338 multicaliber can to see if have to monkey with gas to not run too hard. Have discovered using the 30 caliber quick change cans on any under 30 caliber rifle and gas system doesn't back up and overpressure the gun.
Thanks again for the info. PM sent to Stimpsonjcat... To correct my self I am getting the 762SD NOT THE 762SDN6. I still mix them up sometimes. Is that the vortex Strike Eagle that you're running on your FAL? If so how do you like it? I put on a 556 build i did but have yet to shoot it any. Also that looks like the eclan on your scar... I have heard good things about them but have not found one in person to put my hands on.
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Thanks again for the info. PM sent to Stimpsonjcat... To correct my self I am getting the 762SD NOT THE 762SDN6. I still mix them up sometimes. Is that the vortex Strike Eagle that you're running on your FAL? If so how do you like it? I put on a 556 build i did but have yet to shoot it any. Also that looks like the eclan on your scar... I have heard good things about them but have not found one in person to put my hands on.
Not a Strike Eagle, have about five or six Strike Eagles on different builds and love them. Best AR scope for $299 out there currently. Purchased a Vortex PST 1-6x at almost double the price and running the two side by side don't see paying double for the PST. The scope in the FAL is a 1-4x Millett purchased used here. Illuminated and does all I need with the red dot topping it off. Not my SCAR but when work at the gun shop sit the FAL next to the SCAR hoping they will cross breed into a real rifle. Somewhere between the two is perfection. Belongs to another freak that works there like me that buys a minimum of two of everything just to make sure if it sucks, didn't get a fluke. Only other person know that has multiple binary and bump triggers. The Elcan on his SCAR is the bees knees, 1x to 4x with throw of a lever and one of the best/easiest range finder ever used. Working at the shop part time gives huge opportunity to shoot everything that comes through within reason and employee purchase. We bring rifles to work, loaded and at different stations so if it gets dirty at the LGS, we go to guns using battle rifles that are familiar to us.

Have two of the 762SDN and two of the 762SDN-6's. The longer SDN is quieter but just a little the SDN-6 is good bit shorter. The shorter can on a 16" or shorter barrel makes a handy package. The FAL now has a SDN-6 topping as will be my house clearing if armored zombies get in house. It's loaded like this so hard shell zombies get cracked open like stepping on a roach. Same with the SCAR, both are loaded similar so not for soft targets in a crowd, keep some 6.8's handy for soft shell zombies.



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After reading all the post about the wait time really puts a damper for me on getting anything else.......I have several Form 4's that were as short as just over one month but that was several years ago. One the other hand like in the 70's the times were as now. I guess poor employ work was partly to blame then and i would think the high number of filed forms now is the reason.

Do you think the "Hearing protection" act or what ever it is called will ever come about in regard to suppressors?
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Me too. Crickets, and we're at 8 months.
9 months now on a paper Form 1 I sent in August. I figured I've got to be getting close, so I ordered my material this week. And the dang stuff is here already - now I get to test my discipline to see if I can keep from touching it until the magic paper arrives.

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Same here, 9 months for F1. Whatever happened to creating jobs and putting people to work? C'mon, fed, ya got room for a about 50 people to keep up with this shit so get after it! Might help someone pay the rent.
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I wonder if the recent NFA branch changes are going to hurt civilian xfer times?

It would be difficult to make it worse, but I think they can manage to screw it up worse than it already is.

My guess the answer is going to be "yes" while it helps speed up government transfers.

From what I have gathered, gov't has a hiring freeze.

If that's the case, I suspect they took away personnel from civilian transfers to help handle government (F5) and industry (F3's).

http://www.mssblog.com/2017/04/11/at...eorganization/
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Old May 20, 2017, 17:00   #42
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I wonder if the recent NFA branch changes are going to hurt civilian xfer times?

It would be difficult to make it worse, but I think they can manage to screw it up worse than it already is.

My guess the answer is going to be "yes" while it helps speed up government transfers.

From what I have gathered, gov't has a hiring freeze.

If that's the case, I suspect they took away personnel from civilian transfers to help handle government (F5) and industry (F3's).

http://www.mssblog.com/2017/04/11/at...eorganization/
I supposed they could make it worse by taking away one of the two people doing civie transfers. Bastards.
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That's exactly what I suspect they did too.
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No. Senate and house will not be able to pass a version the other can live with. Will play badminton with it till a stiff wind comes along and ends the match. Should have proposed a bill that addressed machine guns, destructive devices, suppressors and national carry. Then per Washington norm could compromise by eliminating the two most controversial issues and let the lesser of the two evils pass. A single item bill is a yes or no rather than a hybrid compromise. Am taking Silencerco up on their $200 rebate and likely let wife do the same.
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