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Old June 25, 2019, 13:55   #1
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Greed

People die.

Many people have life insurance in case they die early. Spouses are expected to work if they can if the other spouse dies. Divorce is a sure cut off from the funds of the other.

Soldiers die and have died in the ME, and the wife gets a life ins check. End of story.
Cops die almost everyday and so do firemen. Life ins check or widows pension, end of story.

Except NYC and the 911 event.

So far the sound of "suck suck suck", is all we hear, like boots in the mud.
Cops died and firemen died.

Lifetime salaries were paid to the survivors of those who died..firemen, cops, civilians..............WTF?
Lifetime?

It was to stop any lawsuits against the airlines for wrongful deaths caused by the Arabs. Life happens.

No deceased family should have gotten more than their own life ins and a payment from the airlines maybe, but Saudi Arabia was more at fault. Can soldiers families sue? No.

But today, we have anyone who claims that they were injured on 911 trying to collect for "Life's typical diseases". If you experienced emotional trauma from 911, you can collect too for life.

This is all DeBlasio and Cumo NYC maddness and greed at work.

Our local fire cheif was at 911 for two weeks and is now retired and wants to be compensated so that his pensions will be tax free---social security, Fireman pension and now a 911 pension because he feels sick.

What happened to heroism or just accepting life?

$38 billion now handed out, and "they" in NYC need maybe another 100 billion. More claims coming from the lawyers as they invent new ways to gouge the rest of the country.

Cops died everyday, but do not get this after death goldmine to relatives.

Soldiers died after 911 and plenty were injured...no lifetime pension.

https://www.thoughtco.com/rand-repor...sation-3321338

https://www.wnyc.org/story/156021-ho...ensation-fund/
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Old June 25, 2019, 18:01   #2
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sucking the eternal money teat ????
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Old June 26, 2019, 12:26   #3
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Every NYC first responder who retires, gets a lifetime pension, ANYWAY.

Getting a disability tag attached to it, allows the recipient to ALSO get a SS disability pension, and then the scam is to get an additional, 911 pension payout, for the life of the first responder, and then his surviving wife and family.....all tax free.

Now they are opening up this fund to anyone who can prove they were in NYC on 911--students, civilians, residents, visitors............10% of the known world, including any illegals who were in NYC on 911.

Life ends in death, sometimes heroically. Making sure that you get paid for what others have sacrificed in honor and duty is just shiteating, profane greed.

Every last first responder there, gets a huge NYS pension, tax free, AND when any sort of disability is attached...........everyone wants to live in Fla, own a marina and laugh about it.

My sympathies are for the 5000 soldiers and Marines who died, and who do not get a lifetime set of tax free pensions for their families, because they did not live in NYC.

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Old June 27, 2019, 13:59   #4
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Wasn't quite a bit of all that the product of Rudy G. ?

Asking as that had been my impression from a friend who lived in Manhattan on 911

What recently got me were the pix of Manaforts 3.66 million loft
while it did have a private elevator it seemed very spartan to me, almost ghetto with crumbling though painted brick walls, crappy old windows and a very basic kitchen.
I could rent a place pretty similar in most midwestern cities for around a grand without the elevator

No real way to make building like that energy efficient either
The windows have to be changed out
Walls hyper insulated
air handling would be a nightmare retrofit to reach DeBlasio standards for carbon footprint
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Old June 29, 2019, 13:29   #5
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/luis-al...es-2019-06-29/

The tear jerker retired cop who testified before Congress pleading for more money, for the victims compensation funds has just died.

He got his normal 100% salary, when he filed for disability for COLON CANCER, with no deductions, NYS P&F ACCIDENTAL DISABLIITY PENSION, a FULL Disability Social Security Pension, full medical treatment by NYS and Medicare, even at age 54, but he got lifetime medical for his family from NYC free, AND THE WIDOW will get his pensions..............AND A FIGGING 911 PENSION FOR HER SELF AND HER grown KIDS. He was taking in, probably $250k a year plus medical, AND NOW A HUGE DEATH BENEFIT OF A MILLION OR MORE.

WTF, is honor and courage for sale?

Pat Tillman died in Afghanistan fighing the Taliban and alQaeda.
HE GOT NO 911 PENSION, no free medical for life for his family. they got a life ins check, like all real heros.

HOW MANY COPS WHO DIE IN SERVICE ACROSS AMERICA, GET THIS TYPE OF BENEFIT PACKAGE? NONE.

I do not call working on the 911 pile for 3 weeks heroic at all.

Plenty of VFD and paid Firemen volunteered from all across the States and Country to help on the pile.

NYC personnel jealously guarded that function for themselves ON FULL OVERTIME........hundreds of millions of dollars of overtime, were paid to these guys. They got rid of all those other outsider firemen, for cash.

Now they say 50,000 more victims will be applying for a full pension 18 years after the event and for full medical for them and their families for lifetime as 911 war victims. THIS IS A SCAM of monumental proportions. 50,000 more will cost billions moreppppmaybe 1000 billion more.

I piss on them all, as greedy bastards who should not sell their honor for a pittance. They were never worth it, and neither were the persons on the street who survived.
Tillman and 5000 other soldiers who died in the war are, but get nothing $$$$, not even appreciation from these cads.

The survivors who collected benefit for life, for losing a relative on 911 are pissing the $$$$$ away on all sorts of luxury items. I would rather see the Taliban get the cash, than those money sucking bastards in NYC.

Right is right; dying in dishonor and greed is a real death. Your honor is everything in the end.
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Today, I was totally blown away.

The actual count of claims filed to date is...........49,456, WITH 20,000 MORE PENDING; and the final date to file will be....................in 2089.

2089?
A person would have to be 88 years old who was born by 911.

The original fund's cut off dates, were 2004, 2010, and now 2019. Any rational person would believe that this was way too long.

WTF? No one has any guts to shit can this piece of trash legislation.

Reportedly another 50,000 are going to file. This is like illegals coming to America to get on the gravy train.

5,000 solders died fighting in the Iraq and Afghan Wars. Their families get squat. But the NYC people who were traumatized by the event get full salary for life plus their own pensions?

Who will stop this travesty?
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Today, I was totally blown away.

The actual count of claims filed to date is...........49,456, WITH 20,000 MORE PENDING; and the final date to file will be....................in 2089.

2089?
A person would have to be 88 years old who was born by 911.

The original fund's cut off dates, were 2004, 2010, and now 2019. Any rational person would believe that this was way too long.

WTF? No one has any guts to shit can this piece of trash legislation.

Reportedly another 50,000 are going to file. This is like illegals coming to America to get on the gravy train.

5,000 solders died fighting in the Iraq and Afghan Wars. Their families get squat. But the NYC people who were traumatized by the event get full salary for life plus their own pensions?

Who will stop this travesty?
Wow, just wow V

That said, you offer free shit even decent folks are often seduced into tit suckery

you remember how the phrase "government cheese" came into being ?
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Old July 22, 2019, 12:47   #9
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Rand Paul and Mike Lee have held up the craven bill in the Senate, demanding debate and not just a quick passage.

Paul says that we cannot afford this idiocy, that will go on for 70 years more, and fraud safeguards need to be put into place.

https://nypost.com/2019/07/17/activi...-victims-fund/
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