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I never ordered anything from Johnny 63 37.06%
I ordered, and received product timely 52 30.59%
I ordered and received product unacceptably late 8 4.71%
I ordered, and haven't received shit 34 20.00%
I just like stirring shit 10 5.88%
I made multiple orders - one or more arrived late or never arrived 3 1.76%
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Old May 28, 2017, 09:28   #501
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My next thread will be blaming site owner for thousands of lost dollars could have made instead of posting and stalking the marketplace
Do even suggest that brother. Blondzilla would likely gather all our wives together for a class action lawsuit if that were to happen
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Jen's off the hook. She posted no more ads until this is resolved. Everything you do is buyer beware. Huey dropped the blueprint for those caught up in the Quagmire. Do or do not, there is no try... This site is full of honest people. One guy doesn't change that. Avoid that guy.
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Jen's off the hook. She posted no more ads until this is resolved. Everything you do is buyer beware. Huey dropped the blueprint for those caught up in the Quagmire. Do or do not, there is no try... This site is full of honest people. One guy doesn't change that. Avoid that guy.
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I've searched this site for information, bought and sold a couple items, but have never responded to a post until now. ( Registered in July 2000, been a long time)

Placed my order for (4) Black 20rd FAL Moses mags on November 21, 2016.
$119.96 was charged to my CC that day. Have not received anything except
(1) reply to an email sent in early March stating that my order would ship soon.
It is now 3-months later I have received nothing. I am a patient man, however it is shooting season now where I live and I would like to try out these mags before it gets cold again. Going on 7-months now, the money is not the issue with me, but not receiving the items I purchased in a somewhat timely matter is.
Why not hire a couple of folks to help catch up with all the back-orders ??
Why not at least stop taking new orders until the one's from 2016 are filled ??
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I've searched this site for information, bought and sold a couple items, but have never responded to a post until now. ( Registered in July 2000, been a long time)

Placed my order for (4) Black 20rd FAL Moses mags on November 21, 2016.
$119.96 was charged to my CC that day. Have not received anything except
(1) reply to an email sent in early March stating that my order would ship soon.
It is now 3-months later I have received nothing. I am a patient man, however it is shooting season now where I live and I would like to try out these mags before it gets cold again. Going on 7-months now, the money is not the issue with me, but not receiving the items I purchased in a somewhat timely matter is.
Why not hire a couple of folks to help catch up with all the back-orders ??
Why not at least stop taking new orders until the one's from 2016 are filled ??
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You're late to the party, this has been hashed to death, revived hashed again ad nausea, if you have received product then by all means post it, if you have started proceedings per the numerous posts by Huey and others please post what you are doing as opposed to hacking at a dead subject and despite some uneducated pissants i am not a schill for Moses nor do i defend him in any way, quit complaining and start doing something like Huey suggested or get your Mom to bring you a Snickers bar to you in the basement.
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You're late to the party, this has been hashed to death, revived hashed again ad nausea, if you have received product then by all means post it, if you have started proceedings per the numerous posts by Huey and others please post what you are doing as opposed to hacking at a dead subject and despite some uneducated pissants i am not a schill for Moses nor do i defend him in any way, quit complaining and start doing something like Huey suggested or get your Mom to bring you a Snickers bar to you in the basement.
You seem to be very high on yourself. You seem to have missed the point of this thread, which is for people to post reviews of their experience with a product that had not materialized for anyone yet. So no, he is not late to the party, he is yet another dissatisified customer posting yet another honest review of his experience with shit poor service. As this is a review section, and not an op-ed piece for people like you to chase reviewers away, maybe you should mind your own business.

And you can whine and posture all you want, and call people names, but it is in fact you, that is deterring people from posting reviews here. Which, like the moderators telling people that they can't post negative feedback for moses, seems kind of counterintuitive to the review and feedback process as a way to alert and protect future customers from dealing with criminals.
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Moses last activity was April 30th,so he is horizontal again (playing dead)I wonder when someone is going too post another fake funeral for him.
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Ron who in their right mind would do what Huey say's and go too small claims court,it will cost $500 plus your time,plus your gas,plus your work day cost's just too get a court date,so if you spend $500 plus on court cost's too get say $200 from Moses whats the point of losing even more money,and even if you win a judgement against Moses you will still have too pay more money too find a way too get the money from him,as the court will not help in making Moses pay you back,they only say you won your case.
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You seem to be very high on yourself. You seem to have missed the point of this thread, which is for people to post reviews of their experience with a product that had not materialized for anyone yet. So no, he is not late to the party, he is yet another dissatisified customer posting yet another honest review of his experience with shit poor service. As this is a review section, and not an op-ed piece for people like you to chase reviewers away, maybe you should mind your own business.

And you can whine and posture all you want, and call people names, but it is in fact you, that is deterring people from posting reviews here. Which, like the moderators telling people that they can't post negative feedback for moses, seems kind of counterintuitive to the review and feedback process as a way to alert and protect future customers from dealing with criminals.
Agree Ron and Huey seem too want everyone that was ripped off too lose even more money by going too court,complete BULL**it.
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Ron who in their right mind would do what Huey say's and go too small claims court,it will cost $500 plus your time,plus your gas,plus your work day cost's just too get a court date,so if you spend $500 plus on court cost's too get say $200 from Moses whats the point of losing even more money,and even if you win a judgement against Moses you will still have too pay more money too find a way too get the money from him,as the court will not help in making Moses pay you back,they only say you won your case.
Have you seen any results by complaining here? No? hmmm. Huey gave an option to pursue i agreed with it suck it up! Now as it being a review section (not sure where you got the op-ed part) at some point it become academic on adding more info to a well established case is counter productive at the very least, he has already had his credit card processing stopped so that is one positive move, but no other action has been taken to rectify the issue other than to burn up keyboards and bandwidth.
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You seem to be very high on yourself. You seem to have missed the point of this thread, which is for people to post reviews of their experience with a product that had not materialized for anyone yet. So no, he is not late to the party, he is yet another dissatisified customer posting yet another honest review of his experience with shit poor service. As this is a review section, and not an op-ed piece for people like you to chase reviewers away, maybe you should mind your own business.

And you can whine and posture all you want, and call people names, but it is in fact you, that is deterring people from posting reviews here. Which, like the moderators telling people that they can't post negative feedback for moses, seems kind of counterintuitive to the review and feedback process as a way to alert and protect future customers from dealing with criminals.
If he is a criminal then file criminal charges, if not your whining and crying is pathetic to say the least. As for deterring people i have no control over others actions so sorry you have failed again. As for negative feedback you have to conduct business through the Fal Files member to member not a third party sight so again nice try
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If he is a criminal then file criminal charges, if not your whining and crying is pathetic to say the least. As for deterring people i have no control over others actions so sorry you have failed again. As for negative feedback you have to conduct business through the Fal Files member to member not a third party sight so again nice try
Ron how about posting a photo of the money order that you said you were going too send Moses for his magazines as proof that you believe he will honorably send you your order,until then you are just a troll with nothing too back up your claims.
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Ron how about posting a photo of the money order that you said you were going too send Moses for his magazines as proof that you believe he will honorably send you your order,until then you are just a troll with nothing too back up your claims.
You missed the sarcasm in that post, like you missed all of the advice and or anything else that people have posted and all you can do make something out of nothing and if a new person who comes across this will one would hope they would get it after the first 3-4 pages and conclude to not order any magazines from Moses but you and another think that continually complaining/bashing every one and everything in sight serves some purpose.

Tell you what you keep on bitching and moaning and whining and i'll leave you alone.
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I don't get it , he is selling mags local for cash but not filling back orders to the people he owes mags too?
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I don't get it , he is selling mags local for cash but not filling back orders to the people he owes mags too?
Well, I'm not claiming any special knowledge here, but if his molds and his last production run are being held for non-payment, then anything he could do to generate short-term cash to get them out of hock, would make sense. Most small manufacturing businesses are under capitalized, so shutting down his ability to accept credit card payments, and the charge backs leading up to that, did nothing to improve his cash flow.

It's really no different from an otherwise solvent bank being forced to permanently close, because of a run on its held deposits.
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I don't get it , he is selling mags local for cash but not filling back orders to the people he owes mags too?
That's what scam artists do,they move on too the next option once they are caught.
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Well, I'm not claiming any special knowledge here, but if his molds and his last production run are being held for non-payment, then anything he could do to generate short-term cash to get them out of hock, would make sense. Most small manufacturing businesses are under capitalized, so shutting down his ability to accept credit card payments, and the charge backs leading up to that, did nothing to improve his cash flow.

It's really no different from an otherwise solvent bank being forced to permanently close, because of a run on its held deposits.
Even if this is true,why has he not even had the guts too post here saying so ?
Moses has NO more excuses too give that anyone believes anyway,like Moses himself stated 2 months ago ( he is not a thief ) ,what he is,is a scam artist and felon that has committed grand larceny,mail fraud,and wire fraud.
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Even if this is true,why has he not even had the guts too post here saying so ?
Moses has NO more excuses too give that anyone believes anyway,like Moses himself stated 2 months ago ( he is not a thief ) ,what he is,is a scam artist and felon that has committed grand larceny,mail fraud,and wire fraud.
For a person that has the most to say in this thread, I don't think you have a dog in the fight.
Most of your posts are generated from here or the black elk thread.... just sayin....


I ordered five brand-new Moses mags last week and should get them this week..... luckily my order was not with Moses.
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For a person that has the most to say in this thread, I don't think you have a dog in the fight.
Most of your posts are generated from here or the black elk thread.... just sayin....


I ordered five brand-new Moses mags last week and should get them this week..... luckily my order was not with Moses.
Fly,I will let you read through all 50 pages and maybe you can figure it out for yourself,as far as Blackelk, guess I simply don't like thieves.
So stop being a TROLL Flyboy.
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Fly,I will let you read through all 50 pages and maybe you can figure it out for yourself,as far as Blackelk, guess I simply don't like thieves.
So stop being a TROLL Flyboy.
Nobody likes thieves, liars or deadbeats. Moses obviously is not coming through, even though he said he was going to make good on his orders... IMHO
Even though I feel he should get banned, that will not benefit anyone with outstanding orders. Reading through the posts I find lots of people that got screwed, telling what they ordered and when.... That is good information to find the magnitude of his deception.... I still failed to find where you got screwed, because there's so much useless repeating drivel in this thread.

Huey did a excellent job guiding people in the right direction, so they could try and get their hard earned dollars back. .... and then came more drivel from you.
Believe it or not, everybody saw your point of view after your first or second post on the matter.... even the ones you deleted in a hurry because you realized that you crossed the line. Do you really feel you have something to contribute by all of this?... Do you know what that word means? Or is it just an outcry for your hate for thieves? Did I mention I hate thieves?

Point is, there's approximately 34 people that got screwed here alone, and most of their testimonies are getting buried in useless drivel.


Flyboy will go back to trolling this thread, in case some worthy information gets posted.
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Ron who in their right mind would do what Huey say's and go too small claims court,it will cost $500 plus your time,plus your gas,plus your work day cost's just too get a court date,so if you spend $500 plus on court cost's too get say $200 from Moses whats the point of losing even more money,and even if you win a judgement against Moses you will still have too pay more money too find a way too get the money from him,as the court will not help in making Moses pay you back,they only say you won your case.
It costs $50 to file and you get to add $500 onto him for time and trouble plus court filing charges and original money sent. Thus the user that sent $119.96 pays a $50 filing fee, sues for his original $119.96, $500.00 time and effort, $50 for filing fee. Judge files in plantifs favor and defendent pays him $669.96. May can charge standard dot gov approved mileage fees as well, ask the clerk, every trip have made to Magistrate they were very helpful in explaining every dime was entitled to (oh, once had to pay a $25 fee to have defender served out of county but add it to list) and judge awarded every dime and plantiff had choice to pay right then and there or stay at the grey bar hotel till someone brought the money to magistrate. It's not that hard. They make it easy to keep local business, renters, tenants and such honest without involving lawyers and such.
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It costs $50 to file and you get to add $500 onto him for time and trouble plus court filing charges and original money sent. Thus the user that sent $119.96 pays a $50 filing fee, sues for his original $119.96, $500.00 time and effort, $50 for filing fee. Judge files in plantifs favor and defendent pays him $669.96. May can charge standard dot gov approved mileage fees as well, ask the clerk, every trip have made to Magistrate they were very helpful in explaining every dime was entitled to (oh, once had to pay a $25 fee to have defender served out of county but add it to list) and judge awarded every dime and plantiff had choice to pay right then and there or stay at the grey bar hotel till someone brought the money to magistrate. It's not that hard. They make it easy to keep local business, renters, tenants and such honest without involving lawyers and such.
While I'm certainly not trying to dissuade anyone from this course of action if they decide to go that way, I'll just point out the all the money talk assumes that there's any money to pay it all...

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While I'm certainly not trying to dissuade anyone from this course of action if they decide to go that way, I'll just point out the all the money talk assumes that there's any money to pay it all...

Just sayin'...

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Very true, but if people did file it would go on record for others to find while doing research and as we say out at work "if it isn't written down it didn't happen" But alas some only want to beat their chest/keyboard to make them selves sound important.
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I posted my experience and thoughts back in early March, at which time I contacted my credit card company. Today I got confirmation in the mail that the credit card company did not get any response from seller (Moses) and that my credit of charges was now permanent.
I was lucky.

sidebar- Speaking as someone who has used small claims court (successfully), I will attest that it is something the average person can do. But it is burdensome and frankly speaking not worth the effort for $100-$200. I see no way doing small claims yourself from a distance makes sense.
However... attorney fees and court costs can be part of the claim and if you win, the award. And... the sheriff can (and will) take assets (typically a vehicle, since it is easy to sell) to satisfy the judgement. So if the stakes were $1000+, and the case being as open & shut as this one is, I'd roll the dice and hire a local attorney.
Either way, it would probably take 6-9 months to get your money.

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I wonder if I offer $25,000 cash for the intellectual property, molds, machinery needed to produce Moses mags if it would be a paying proposition to produce them and sell them?

I need a hobby.

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I suspect Johnie got side-tracked by life and it snowballed as he was-in over his head business-wise.

His product was wildly successful and he did a great job of producing the product as a one man shop.

Probably couldn't keep up with the orders and got distracted by his mom's health issues and fell behind and could not recover/keep track of it all.

This is just supposition on my part after having gone through some life altering crap myself - nothing as severe as this though.

I would ask you all to just let it go and be as humanly understanding of this as you are able-too and move-on.

Eventually you will find yourself in a similar predicament and the only solitude you will have is that which you know - shut-up and stay low.

I doubt we will ever hear about his upcoming steel plate matches ever again and that should be enough for you all, I hope.

Just a passing thought.

Now - things are looking up from a buyers perspective in the current markets, aren't they?



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Another thing out of his control. Due to a re-construction of the range to make it "neighbor friendly", the Steel Military Rifle matches are a thing of the past.
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I suspect Johnie got side-tracked by life and it snowballed as he was-in over his head business-wise.

His product was wildly successful and he did a great job of producing the product as a one man shop.

Probably couldn't keep up with the orders and got distracted by his mom's health issues and fell behind and could not recover/keep track of it all.

This is just supposition on my part after having gone through some life altering crap myself - nothing as severe as this though.

I would ask you all to just let it go and be as humanly understanding of this as you are able-too and move-on.


Eventually you will find yourself in a similar predicament and the only solitude you will have is that which you know - shut-up and stay low.

I doubt we will ever hear about his upcoming steel plate matches ever again and that should be enough for you all, I hope.

Just a passing thought.


Now - things are looking up from a buyers perspective in the current markets, aren't they?



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Everything you said means nothing because he is still trying to steal people money. Inexcusable....
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I suspect Johnie got side-tracked by life and it snowballed as he was-in over his head business-wise.

His product was wildly successful and he did a great job of producing the product as a one man shop.

Probably couldn't keep up with the orders and got distracted by his mom's health issues and fell behind and could not recover/keep track of it all.

This is just supposition on my part after having gone through some life altering crap myself - nothing as severe as this though.

I would ask you all to just let it go and be as humanly understanding of this as you are able-too and move-on.

Eventually you will find yourself in a similar predicament and the only solitude you will have is that which you know - shut-up and stay low.

I doubt we will ever hear about his upcoming steel plate matches ever again and that should be enough for you all, I hope.

Just a passing thought.

Now - things are looking up from a buyers perspective in the current markets, aren't they?



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Wot ??? Dignity ? Decency ? We'll have none of that. You should be banned for, ten minutes,,,at least !
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Everything you said means nothing because he is still trying to steal people money. Inexcusable....
Dude, I doubt he did this deliberately.

I've met the man only twice on the range during matches and once during an after-action party. He was honest, personable and a good guy with a lot of scattered energy and made good on his business promises and backed his product-up without question until things got sideways for him.

He is just like us and got in over his head, IMO. (life).
Loves the rifle, the matches and does his thing like we do.

When your life goes badly for you (and it will eventually) I would give you a break. I know you cannot see it now but if you have one ounce of decency/human understanding you might just let go of the anger for his apparent failure to meet your expectations.

I completely understand your frustration.

I donate money to charitable causes occasionally and those causes sometimes fail to produce the results that I had donated to them for - like cancer research to fix my mom and ex-wife, and to our veterans and expect nothing in return except for their well being.

Now all of that is gone for him due to life and getting older and having responsibilities out of his ability to control any longer.

HE produced and distributed a much needed and better product for a while while he was able - just ask anyone who has his products.

I'm so sorry that you lost money on this but sometimes that's just the way it goes. Small shop with a great product in a small niche market.

Life is too short to hold a grudge.

If he gets a break and everyone can just employ a modicum of Detente over the situation, he might be able to recover and get back to taking care of these problems of product delivery - beating the shit out of him and taking him to the cleaners with law-suits is only going to worsen the situation and drive him further underground.

OK, I'm done here - you guys think and look inside yourselves for the answer.

Be well and lets get-on with enjoying our rifles/sports and hobbies.

Maybe one of you will be able to raise the capital for R&D/Manufacturing costs to fill this product void rather than complaining about it?



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Only Moses on this board can maintain his shitty customer service and not be burned at the stake. Anyone else would be run off. Nobody puts Moses in a corner....
^^^This^^^....Why people on this board continue to pump water on his behalf is beyond me. If you can't fulfill your business commitments stop taking orders for products you can't ship or work you cannot complete.
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Wot ??? Dignity ? Decency ? We'll have none of that. You should be banned for, ten minutes,,,at least !
I'll take every bit of it, and then-some.

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^^^This^^^....Why people on this board continue to pump water on his behalf is beyond me. If you can't fulfill your business commitments stop taking orders for products you can't ship or work you cannot complete.
You obviously haven't experienced enough of life yet.

You will.

Wait for it and remember what you said here and then reflect upon it.

Let it go and take care of yourself.

Go feed a homeless person or donate to a worthy cause . . .

I love you and understand your frustration.

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You obviously haven't experienced enough of life yet.

You will.

Wait for it and remember what you said here and then reflect upon it.

Let it go and take care of yourself.

Go feed a homeless person or donate to a worthy cause . . .

I love you and understand your frustration.

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One post from me in an 11 page thread with over 48K views and I need to let it go? Interesting. Who's foot is what shoe being fitted to?

You have no idea friend, of what I have or have not experienced in life...nary a clue.

But I can tell you what I have indeed experienced on this board is the same song and dance concerning Moses and his product and service commitments since I joined this board nearly five years ago. (To include my own personal dealings with him that I ended up having to cancel and have him just refund my money and parts after a ridiculously unacceptable wait...ie. dog in hunt). Dog ate my homework only works for so long.

I like cool guys too. That being said, whether or not life is peachy for me or tee-totally phucked.....I do not allow my mouth to write checks my ass cannot cash.

I love you too....and maybe Moses a little more....

Later to you too gator.
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Hello, first off I'm not a big poster. I've had dealings with the man via phone. That said if you can't produce your product just say so. This post has gone on way too long .. Let it go. Life is too short. I'm sorry if you lost money on the guy. You guys are arguing over things you'll never recover. I'm sure there are things or people in your life you should be spending this energy on. Just one man's opinion.............
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I think that by and large , most are very understanding about bad luck and circumstances beyond one's control. Honesty from this guy would have gone a long way. I think two issues prevent people from having any sympathy for Moses. One, the fact that he has been deceitful and has lied over and over. And two, that he continues to hawk his non existent product. That is what proves his bad character. I too am a little amazed at those who continue to defend this person, despite these two issues.
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Is he still taking orders?

Let me know if this is true.

His silence on the matter is very questionable but if he is still accepting orders that is a huge issue he needs to fix.

Please let us know.

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His website is up and running. The credit card companies have cut him off so he wants you to send a money order now. Is this a guy that should be given a break or just a crook.... you tell me....
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Go look at his website yourself... I agree that that we should all move on but every time I'm about to get over it someone writes a " look inside yourself ... forgive... it could be you..." defend this guy post and I'm pissed off all over again. HE STOLE MY MONEY .
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